All levels Roster - 2nd Half of the Season 3.0.0

Hey buddy

 I haven’t downloaded this update yet but, based on your previous work, I know it’ll be great. I just wanted to say thanks in advance for the huge effort involved in putting a roster of this magnitude together.  
 

Many many thanks my friend 

The ratings I've done along the way for contact/power have been a "build" for older (4+ years experience) players over time and not necessarily a reflection of just the current year.  I've always wanted to capture just the single season, but it was too much work on top of what I was already doing.  Similarly, I learned the maybe a given pitch type's control should be based more on the data we have vs. simply a pitch type that most pitchers use (of course, 2 seam FB), but that's tricky, because it could be for some pitchers that, e.g., their curve is more effective because the FB has been established. These will be interesting to use.

Oh Gordo my friend, your body of work over the years is impeccable. None of us would have the “base” without your rosters buddy 

16 hours ago, marty65 said:

Hey buddy

 I haven’t downloaded this update yet but, based on your previous work, I know it’ll be great. I just wanted to say thanks in advance for the huge effort involved in putting a roster of this magnitude together.  
 

Many many thanks my friend 

Thanks buddy, It is very cool to put this amount of players in the same roster, I can't wait to see which of this young guys that I'm putting in the game in the beginning of their pro careers will dominate the League in 3 or 5 years.

2 hours ago, marty65 said:

Oh Gordo my friend, your body of work over the years is impeccable. None of us would have the “base” without your rosters buddy 

Absolutely true!

10 hours ago, Gordo said:

The ratings I've done along the way for contact/power have been a "build" for older (4+ years experience) players over time and not necessarily a reflection of just the current year.  I've always wanted to capture just the single season, but it was too much work on top of what I was already doing.  Similarly, I learned the maybe a given pitch type's control should be based more on the data we have vs. simply a pitch type that most pitchers use (of course, 2 seam FB), but that's tricky, because it could be for some pitchers that, e.g., their curve is more effective because the FB has been established. These will be interesting to use.

Yeah, for all the players I did use the split data season by season to see what is their context, especially in this season, in order to have some kind of "tendencies" to add or subtract points based on that. You're right, pitching rating is really interesting and very tricky, based on what I've learned, there are a lot of stats that can help but I'm still not sure wich is the best one, I was wondering if maybe there is a way of using the data of Pitcher List to rate the control of each pitch type, for example, using the CWS%?

14 hours ago, alfre2jose said:

 I was wondering if maybe there is a way of using the data of Pitcher List to rate the control of each pitch type, for example, using the CWS%?

Ya, and to make it more complicated, Fangraphs has "pitch info pitch values" which means something like "runs above average per 100 pitches"  ..... so I guess that's like just about throwing 6-8 inns. depending on proficiency (if you go to a certain pitcher's page and click on "pitch types" and scroll down, it's lower on the page).  

So for example, for John Means, I guess what this refers to is very up and down for his FB over the years and since it's so high for the knuckler in 2019, that's why it was the only year he pitched it.  But overall, you'd have to develop something to relate to the control numbers in MVP that would make sense.....plus it's variable from year to year potentially.

On 8/24/2021 at 9:32 AM, Gordo said:

 

Ya, and to make it more complicated, Fangraphs has "pitch info pitch values" which means something like "runs above average per 100 pitches"  ..... so I guess that's like just about throwing 6-8 inns. depending on proficiency (if you go to a certain pitcher's page and click on "pitch types" and scroll down, it's lower on the page).  

 

So for example, for John Means, I guess what this refers to is very up and down for his FB over the years and since it's so high for the knuckler in 2019, that's why it was the only year he pitched it.  But overall, you'd have to develop something to relate to the control numbers in MVP that would make sense.....plus it's variable from year to year potentially.

 

Ya, and this are stats that are very sensitive to a couple of bad outings. If you are ok with it, when I find time, I'll PM you to see if there is a viable rating chart that could be developed.

I don't know if I'd know where to start...hehe.

Tbh me neither, lol

If you're not keeping guys in the majors for being on the 10 day IL, you're gonna drive yourself nuts.  They only miss a handful of games, especially pitchers.

12 hours ago, Gordo said:

If you're not keeping guys in the majors for being on the 10 day IL, you're gonna drive yourself nuts.  They only miss a handful of games, especially pitchers.

Yeah it's kinda crazy, but I'm trying to follow who's hurt and who's up as much as I can to have a feel of how are the things in the League today, plus some guys who went to the 10 day IL have missed a lot of time. I think that this way is fine if I can keep updating my roster on a daily basis.

Alfre2jose, excellent roster. I know you wrote some of the injured major league players were placed in the minors, but I did notice a handful of players missing from the roster set that are injured. For example, Soroka, glasnow, Dustin may, madrigal, morejon, Dakota hudson, etc are missing compared to your beginning of season release. Do you have a list of players that were removed?

3 hours ago, shom10 said:

Alfre2jose, excellent roster. I know you wrote some of the injured major league players were placed in the minors, but I did notice a handful of players missing from the roster set that are injured. For example, Soroka, glasnow, Dustin may, madrigal, morejon, Dakota hudson, etc are missing compared to your beginning of season release. Do you have a list of players that were removed?

Thanks! Yes, I have the list and all of them in a backup file, when the season ends I will release a roster that will include those players. (If you want it, I can send you the list via dm).