2015 Toronto Bluejays Cyberface Pack 1.1

Some nice ones, especially Saunders.

But one thing: if you use some of my head models, which I spend in some cases hours (to days) to get done in blender, give me some credit.

I don't mind if others try to enhance my work (that's why we're here), but at least give credit to the source.

I have no problem giving you credit if I use any portion of your work but in this case I didn't. I can tell you what head model I used for every single cyberface that I created and how I used Blender to slightly tweak it.  To mention a few: For Cory Burns, I used Pablo Sandoval's head model as a base. For Daniel Norris, I used Randy Wells head model as a base. For Chris Colabello, I used Juan Francisco's head model as a base. For Aaron Sanchez, I used Ian Kennedy's head model as a base. For Devon Travis, I used Gordon Beckham's head model as a base. For Steve Delabar, I used Tony LaRussa's head model as a base.

For all my cyberfaces I use a generic cyberface as a base to create all of my textures. When I am finished, I paste those textures onto the cyberface of a real player that has a head model that I feel looks most like the particular player I am creating. Then I will use Blender to make a few tiny adjustments here or there- usually the lips, ears, occasionally the cheeks.

If anything I did looks "questionable" to you, you could always PM to ask if I used any of your work to tweak it, etc. The only cyberface in this particular pack that I did not create entirely is the Jose Reyes one- I forget who created the original one, but all of the textures are mine.

Look at Aaron Sanchez and Chris Colabello to name two. Did not take a look at the models of the others. These two are my models. 1:1. Its impossibel that you used Ian Kennedy for Sanchez and come up with the exact same model. I used 2ks Strasburg as base. Just use the Nba2KXModTool and compare the models. They are the same.

My bad, it was Strasburg head model I used as a base for Sanchez. I initially tried Ian Kennedy's but didnt like it (too wide).  I am not going to get into a debate with you about what you think I may have done. I did not take any part of your work to use for mine. And if I did, I still would have tweaked it to my liking and giving you credit for using it as a base. I know how to use blender too, except for creating player's longer head hair. I will give you the credit you ask for because you are convinced those specific head models look so similar. And if they do, it was merely a coincidence.

Thank you for your time and effort, Scottybilly.  I know you have a full menu on your plate.

Porque pelear por algo que es para todos los que jugamos #MLB2k12 

Yeah, indeed a coincidence. Out of the over 800 2K faces... *g* I am sure we can play the same game with Colabello all over again.

You don't wanted to compare the models: I'll do it for you:

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You got the same size and even the same angle for the ears. Wow! That's a kind of magic... 

Especially the somewhat sloppy worked parts I marked you'll not find in the original Strasburg and you'll never come up with them exactly the same just by accident. That's just nonsens.

Same with Colabello and who knows who else. Guess who I used for Colabello!? Lots of changes in this one:

Click!

Coincidence? Perhaps in a parallel universe.

Anybody who insists that two can come up with the identical model in blender (after dozens of adjustments) probably never even used it. Can't understand your behavior.

Well, that's it for me. I am not going to upload any more faces. Never witnessed  anything like this in any modding community that I known. I am not even angry or something like that. It's just a matter of principle.

I believe in sharing but I also believe in respecting the work of others. Let's keep it that way.

Please continue this conversation by PMing one another. The comments section should not be used for this.  Both of your contributions are appreciated. 

No I am not going to continue this conversation. He can believe what he wants and offer me and anybody that will listen his proof that I stole from his mods. I know that I didnt and I gave him credit anyway because there are obvious similarities in the head models of a few players(because we chose the same player head model to edit from). He can request an admin to remove my mod entirely or all of them from this site completely because that is how unimportant it is to me. Frankly, if I saw somebody else do what he is accusing me of,  I wouldn't give a shit, nor care about getting credit for part of the mod.

I have far more serious things going on in my life than to defend the integrity of a cyberface or two I made. My girlfriend w/ leukemia just got placed in a plastic germ bubble in an ICU at Stanford last night because her weakened immune system is putting her life in jeopardy now. I cant touch her or even see/visit her except from a few feet away outside her bubble. 24/7 I am caring for my father who's left side of his body is useless from a stroke in late 2010.  Oh yeah, as of earlier this year, he has prostate cancer too. You try physically moving around a grown man that is as big as I am 6'5, 250lbs+, or pickin him off the ground if he falls during the one moment that you aren't there to help him. I have a half-pint mum that is helpless to do anything to help me because she is too afraid. All she does is wipe his ass after he shits, and give him a sponge bath everyday. Nobody in my father's family gives a flyin fuck, or offers any help to us, and the only person that would have was my only sister. But wait, shes fuckin dead because she went and got herself killed drunk driving the month before my dads stroke. Look up her name, Stacy Anne White, died September 12, 2010. They blasted her name all over the newspapers and local news here for what happened for 2 or 3 days.

The only pleasure I occasionally get is watchin baseball, making mods and contributing on this site, and playin with my black pug Ygor

Absolutely, starting with 2K Sports.

If both of you are using derivative works from each other, make sure you're credited in each other's documentation, at the end of the day that's the level of respect we should have for each other's work. Let's not let things escalate and ruin everyone else's enjoyment of your works as you guys contribute great stuff.