Very Low Pitch Counts When Pitching On Pro

[abhall]

same here,

BUT

IF I go for a 2 seam fastball in and low and i mistime the perfecr and it goes high and insdie and the CPU takes it for a ball. then whats wrong with the same pitch but you get the perfect, it lands down and in and you get the K.

Since your pitch counts are lower:

Move the pitch meter difficulty to -50

Change the fatigue slider to -35 or -40

Everyones sliders will be a little different according to their play.

[vinnycast27]

throw more balls lol

why? why waste pitches, i want k's man not balls or walks

i'll throw a ball when im ahead never before hand unless its coz of a bad pitch and was accidental.

p.s H your on ALL STAR im PRO there must be a difference.

plus your swing frequency is very very low, no wonder there's lots more walks in your game. plus i expect more k's too since your have more or less stopped them swinging lol

-45 is pretty Over the top man, but if it works for you its all good.

i'll movee my CPU swing frequency down to 0 from +10 see if there's more walks and more k's hopefully.

although im finding with +10 the CPU doens't swing at anything outside the zone, so on -45 they must literally swing at NOTHING .

ill give it a go though.

[The H]

vinnycast27,

It works for me... and if you see my stats, you'll notice that these settings render good results for me.

[vinnycast27]

right ive just noticed something thats really annoying in the OPTIONS TUNING screen

I noticed if you save your tuning settings say in your dynasty it doesn change them in your main options page in MVP.

so i exited my dynasty and decided to update the settings so if i start a new dynasty or play an exhibition game im already set up.

after keying in the right figures i exit the game entirely and restart.....

in my dynasty everything is as it was when i left it updated. EXCELENT

But

In MY MVP folder under PRO settings they are like they were before i edited them.

i thought what the f**k? what's this about? so i put them in AGAIN saved profile and exitied.

loaded them game up and it hadnt save again :x

cant belive it, has anyone else had this problem?

its really annoying, i just got to remember to write down my settings for when i re-start another dynasty.

BLOODY ANNOYING

[spitoon]

I think your reluctance to throw balls is hurting you. I can understand your argument against it. You are thinking "Why would you want to walk a batter when you might get him out with a ball in the strike zone?"

For a couple of reasons:

1) It's more realistic, you won't see a team go 3 games without issuing a walk, which was the case 'out of the box' with this game.

2) Sometimes a walk is a better option than giving up a hit, certainly better than an extra base hit. If I fall behind Pujols 2-0 or 3-1, I'm sure not going to groove one just so he can send it into the next county. Trust your stuff, and go after the next guy.

Your one comment "Why waste pitches, I want K's man not balls or walks", is contrary to the title of your thread...you are looking to throw more pitches. If you are constantly throwing strikes, you are not going to throw very many pitches. Few MLB pitchers can get away with throwing that many strikes. One that comes to mind is Roy Halladay of the Jays, when he is "on" he generally has low pitch counts. It's because he is in the strike zone a lot, he can get away with it to a certain exent because his stuff is so filthy. However, if you notice, he does tend to give up alot of homers, for the same reason, he's in the strike zone alot. Because he's good and doesn't have many baserunners on, he's giving up solo shots which isn't so bad.

It's a fine balancing act. You don't want to continually be pitching from behind in the count, that will get you in trouble. Good hitters love that, they can sit on a fastball because they know you'll have to throw one if you are behind 2-0 or 3-1. If you can get ahead in the count, you have the leverage to be more creative and cross up the hitter a bit.

[vinnycast27]

GREAT POST, your right. finding a median is difficult.

i think i want the opposite to what actually happens in my games.

when im getting lots of K's and finding the game a breeze, i want a more realistic game. i want to issue walks get high pitch counts etc....

but when i adjust the sliders and am getting hit all over the place and strikeouts are hard to come by i want an easy 3/4 pitch strike out.

an equilibrium is hard to find, i will H's sliders which seem pretty good and i may tweak them my self for my own realism.

thanks for the help

[basballfanatik9]

I think your reluctance to throw balls is hurting you. I can understand your argument against it. You are thinking "Why would you want to walk a batter when you might get him out with a ball in the strike zone?"

For a couple of reasons:

1) It's more realistic, you won't see a team go 3 games without issuing a walk, which was the case 'out of the box' with this game.

2) Sometimes a walk is a better option than giving up a hit, certainly better than an extra base hit. If I fall behind Pujols 2-0 or 3-1, I'm sure not going to groove one just so he can send it into the next county. Trust your stuff, and go after the next guy.

Your one comment "Why waste pitches, I want K's man not balls or walks", is contrary to the title of your thread...you are looking to throw more pitches. If you are constantly throwing strikes, you are not going to throw very many pitches. Few MLB pitchers can get away with throwing that many strikes. One that comes to mind is Roy Halladay of the Jays, when he is "on" he generally has low pitch counts. It's because he is in the strike zone a lot, he can get away with it to a certain exent because his stuff is so filthy. However, if you notice, he does tend to give up alot of homers, for the same reason, he's in the strike zone alot. Because he's good and doesn't have many baserunners on, he's giving up solo shots which isn't so bad.

It's a fine balancing act. You don't want to continually be pitching from behind in the count, that will get you in trouble. Good hitters love that, they can sit on a fastball because they know you'll have to throw one if you are behind 2-0 or 3-1. If you can get ahead in the count, you have the leverage to be more creative and cross up the hitter a bit.

See spitoon knows where I'm coming from. On a average per game, I walk about two batters.

[Roscosuper]

I've gotten great results on All-star with minimal slider adjustments..........

Pitch meter difficulty -50

Foul Ball Freq.(both) +50

Pitch Accuracy (both) -50

I think that if you fear the cpu hitters a little, you will pitch around them more often, which will lead to walking more batters..........also, you have to observe when the cpu is trying to pitch around you.....they do it alot, especially in the NL....if you have runners on and first base is open, and you have a hot hitter at the plate, they might pitch around you......also, if you have 2 outs and a runner on, and your number 8 hitter is up, they're going to pitch around you to get to your pitcher.......KEEP IN MIND if you're swinging at bad pitches and you get behind in the count, the cpu is going to try and get you out.........the higher level you play at the more you have to approach it like real baseball..........and if you take away ability from cpu hitters, you won't fear them......and you won't pitch away, and you won't pitch outside the zone, and you won't pitch around......I'm about 50 games in, and I'm in the middle of most stat catorgories

[vinnycast27]

Yes i believe a KEY slider is the FOUL FREQUENCY slider.

because even if you crank up the sliders to make pitching harder all that will happen is you get hit all over the place.

At least with the foul slider very high, it gives you a little more protection of bad pitches and will consiquently increase the amount of pitches thrown per pitcher.

I've also noticed its hard to last more than 6 innings with my starter until i put fatigue on -40, they can last nearly 8 innings now to last 100 pitches

Needs more testing but im sure ill have an accurate figure for you soon.

:D

[dochase]

Real quick.

Is there any way to see total pitch counts besides Pausing the game and looking at the current pitcher on the mound. The box scores don't show pitch counts...

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[abhall]

Real quick.

Is there any way to see total pitch counts besides Pausing the game and looking at the current pitcher on the mound. The box scores don't show pitch counts...

D

Nope. That's the only way.

[jbmagicfan]

Best advice:

Pitch Meter Difficulty @ +40 ~ +45

Pitch Control @ -30 ~ -40

CPU Foul Ball Frequency @ +45 ~ +50

CPU Swing Frequency @ -30 ~ -35

While playing on All-Star, I get 90+ pitch counts around 6-7 IP, a decent amount of BBs and Ks (2-3/4-8, depending on who's pitching) and very good and realistic results.

Now, as per the CPU pitch count, well, you just need to be patient and not swing at everything like a madman. I've seen many games in which the CPU starter gets 100-pitch counts in 7-8 IP... but that only happens if I tried to work them while I'm on the plate.

why pitching meter diffculty so high? wont that make the pitching meter easier when you increase it?

[The H]

jbmagicfan,

Yeah, sorry... that was a mistake (or better said, a brainf*rt, hehe).

If you check my sliders, you'll notice that I have that value @ -45.

[jbmagicfan]

The H

thanks

i never play all star level. what i need to watch out for going from pro to all star?

thanks

[The H]

Human hitting is a lot harder, especially the timing part of it... and if you make a mistake pitch, 9.5/10 times the CPU will murder it.

[vinnycast27]

best stick to pro like me mate lol

g'luck though with all-star

[adembroski]

Brad Radke is an exceptional example of why to throw more balls. Nobody ever told this guy he is not required to throw every pitch in the strike zone, so he's only walked 1 guy all year, but he gives up homeruns like he thinks they give his team runs.

If every pitch is a strike, you narrow down the possibilities that the hitters has to think about- Advantage: hitter.

Plus look at Randy Johnson... he made a career out of striking guys out by throwing sliders in the dirt and fastballs up and in.

[rdeyes]

OK, now I see where you are going with this.

Use the upper values I've pointed out for you on your Pro settings.

Additionally, raise your Contact and Power to +20 ~ +25 and lower the CPUs to -15 ~ -20.

With those changes you should get a better pitching performance from your starters, with more realistic results and you'll be able to 'enjoy' your batting prac... errr, I mean, batting in each game.

so if you didnt wanna always hit HR then setting the contact and power to about +10 - +18 would make a more realistic game?, i tend to swing at anything close to the plate and sometimes the not so close :roll:

[MarlinsFan]

I like pitching for strikeouts, however I pitch around 80 pitches through 7 innings, the 8th and 9th are very hard to control the starters.

I got 11 strikeouts with Al Leiter in my last game played, pitched 7 innings, 106 pitches, 3 walks

Don't be afraid to make them chace, even on a 3-2 count... throw a curveball or slitter down in the zone very close, most of the time they will swing... Once I establish a 0-2 count I'll just throw pitches close to the zone in hopes of getting them to swing and miss...

Good pitches for 0-2 count for strikeout..

Curveball/splitter, anything with a 12-6 trajectory... low in the zone

If you have a 96 mph fastball, throw it up in the zone.

A slider inside into the batter.

Changeup is very good on almost all sides for they are thinking fastball

I use kumula's datafile final with his sliders and no pitch difficulty on the meter.