All timers teams project

[jp_hidalgo]

Well, I have permission to use some audio files and portraits. Can we all togheter put the 50 more important players per franchise?

jp_hidalgo @ ho---il.c-m

[marsl]

This sounds like a very incredible fun mod

i've been amazed with 64 67 56

it's so much fun

i'd personally prefer that they would not be any players repeat

also

people that dont agree with your choices can always trade players

mcgwire per example for somebody that played with both the cards

and the a's so they have to search alittle it's a game isnt it

thanks in advance i dont know anything about modding

but you's guy's are doing a great job

of keeping the only pc game that make any sens alive

thanks

marsl from Montreal

[jp_hidalgo]

ANGELS

C : Buck Rodgers, Bengie Molina

1B: Wally Joyner

2B: Bobby Grich, Sandy Alomar Sr.

3B: Doug DeCinces, Troy Glaus

SS: Jim Fregosi

LF: Brian Downing

CF: Darin Erstad

RF: Garret Anderson, Tim Salmon

DH: Don Baylor, Chili Davis

SP: Nolan Ryan

SP: Frank Tanana

SP: Dean Chance

SP: Mark Langston

SP: Chuck Finley

SP: Jim Abbott

RP: Francisco Rodriguez

RP: Donnie Moore

RP: Mike Witt

RP: Bryan Harvey

RP: Troy Percival

do you agree?

[Homer]

jp! where have you been?

[jp_hidalgo]

jp! where have you been?

studying, now I am engineer

and my hobby keeps alive, I will do all the teams with your help

[jp_hidalgo]

ASTROS

C : Alan Ashby

1B: Jeff Bagwell, Bob Watson, Glenn Davis

2B: Craig Biggio, Bill Doran

SS: Dickie Thon

3B: Doug Rader

LF: Jose Cruz, Richard Hidalgo

CF: Moises Alou, Cesar Cedeno, Jimmy Wynn

RF: Lance Berkman, Kevin Bass, Derek Bell

SP: J.R. Richard

SP: Mike Scott

SP: Joe Niekro

SP: Roy Oswalt

SP: Larry Dierker

RP: Dave Smith

RP: Joe Sambito

RP: Ken Forsch

RP: Billy Wagner

[jp_hidalgo]

DEFINITIVE All Timers:

ANGELS

C : Buck Rodgers, Bengie Molina

1B: Wally Joyner

2B: Bobby Grich, Sandy Alomar Sr.

3B: Doug DeCinces, Troy Glaus

SS: Jim Fregosi

LF: Brian Downing

CF: Darin Erstad

RF: Garret Anderson, Tim Salmon

DH: Don Baylor, Chili Davis

SP: Nolan Ryan

SP: Frank Tanana

SP: Dean Chance

SP: Mark Langston

SP: Chuck Finley

SP: Jim Abbott

RP: Francisco Rodriguez

RP: Donnie Moore

RP: Mike Witt

RP: Bryan Harvey

RP: Troy Percival

RESERVES:

SS David Eckstein

SP Jarrod Washburn

RP Dave LaRoche

RP Andy Hassler

SS Gary DiSarcina

SP Andy Messersmith

OF Gary Pettis

RP Don Aase

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ASTROS

C : Alan Ashby

1B: Jeff Bagwell, Bob Watson, Glenn Davis

2B: Craig Biggio, Bill Doran

SS: Dickie Thon

3B: Doug Rader

LF: Jose Cruz, Richard Hidalgo

CF: Moises Alou, Cesar Cedeno, Jimmy Wynn

RF: Lance Berkman, Kevin Bass, Derek Bell

SP: J.R. Richard

SP: Mike Scott

SP: Joe Niekro

SP: Roy Oswalt

SP: Larry Dierker

RP: Dave Smith

RP: Joe Sambito

RP: Ken Forsch

RP: Billy Wagner

RESERVES:

C Tony Eusebio, Brad Ausmus

2B Phil Garner

SS Craig Reynolds

3B Enos Cabell, Bob Aspromonte

LF Terry Puhl

SP Bob Knepper

SP Darryl Kile

SP Mike Hampton

RP Shane Reynolds

RP Wade Miller

RP Brad Lidge

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ATHLETICS

C : Mickey Cochrane, Terry Steinbach

1B: Jimmie Foxx, Jason Giambi

2B: Jimmie Dykes

3B: Home Run Baker, Eric Chavez

SS: Bert Campaneris, Miguel Tejada

LF: Rickey Henderson

CF: Al Simmons

RF: Reggie Jackson, Bob Johnson

DH: Jose Canseco

SP: Lefty Grove

SP: Catfish Hunter

SP: Vida Blue

SP: Chief Bender

SP: Dave Stewart

RP: Eddie Plank

RP: Rube Waddell

RP: Bob Welch

RP: Jack Coombs

RP: Rollie Fingers

RP: Dennis Eckersley

RESERVES

C : Gene Tenace

2B: Dick Green

3B: Sal Bando, Carney Lansford

SS: Walt Weiss

LF: Gus Zernial

CF: Dwayne Murphy

RF: Mitchell Page

SP: Blue Moon Odom

SP: Bobby Shantz

SP: Rube Walberg

RP: Rick Honeycutt

RP: Eddie Rommel

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BLUE JAYS

C : Ernie Whitt, Pat Borders

1B: John Olerud

2B: Roberto Alomar, Damaso Garcia

SS: Tony Fernandez

3B: Kelly Gruber

LF: George Bell, Joe Carter, Jose Cruz Jr.

CF: Lloyd Moseby, Devon White, Shannon Stewart

RF: Jesse Barfield, Shawn Green

DH: Carlos Delgado

SP: Dave Stieb

SP: David Wells

SP: Juan Guzman

SP: Roy Halladay

RP: Mark Eichhorn

RP: Tom Henke

RP: Pat Hentgen

RP: Duane Ward

RP: Billy Koch

RESERVES

C Buck Martinez, Pat Borders

1B Willie Upshaw

SS Alfredo Griffin

3B Eric Hinske

LF Vernon Wells

RP Jim Clancy

RP Mike Timlin

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BRAVES

C : Javy López, Joe Torre

1B: Joe Adcock, Fred McGriff, Fred Tenney

2B: Bobby Lowe

SS: Rabbit Maranville, Herman Long

3B: Eddie Mathews, Chipper Jones

LF: Hugh Duffy, Wally Berger

CF: Dale Murphy, Andruw Jones

RF: Hank Aaron

SP: Warren Spahn

SP: Greg Maddux

SP: Phil Niekro

SP: Tom Glavine

SP: Johnny Sain

SP: Kid Nichols

SP: Lew Burdette

RP: John Smoltz

RP: Rick Camp

RP: Gene Garber

RESERVES:

C : Del Crandall, Eddie Perez

1B: Chris Chambliss

2B: Bill Sweeney, Mark Lemke, Marcus Giles

SS: Rafael Furcal, Sam Wise, Jeff Blauser, Johnny Logan

3B: Bob Horner, Darrell Evans

LF: Rico Carty, Dave Justice

CF: Otis Nixon, Ron Gant

RF: Ralph Garr, Lonnie Smith, Tommy Holmes

SP: Lefty Tyler

SP: Kevin Millwood

SP: Dick Rudolph

SP: Bob Buhl

RP: John Rocker

RP: Mark Wohlers

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BREWERS

C : BJ Surhoff, Dave Nilsson, Charlie Moore

1B: Cecil Cooper, Richie Sexson

2B: Jim Gantner, Don Money

3B: Jeff Cirillo

SS: Robin Yount

LF: Jeromy Burnitz, Greg Vaughn, Geoff Jenkins

CF: Gorman Thomas, Darryl Hamilton

RF: Ben Oglivie, Sixto Lezcano

DH: Paul Molitor

SP: Teddy Higuera

SP: Jim Slaton

SP: Mike Caldwell

SP: Moose Haas

SP: Cal Eldred

RP: Pete Vuckovich

RP: Dan Plesac

RP: Mike Fetters

RP: Derrick Turnbow

RESERVES:

1B John Jaha, Prince Fielder

SS Jose Valentin

SP Ben Sheets

SP Chris Bosio

RP Ken Sanders

RP Ray King

RP Bob McClure

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CARDINALS

C : Ted Simmons, Tim McCarver

1B: Mark McGwire, Albert Pujols

2B: Rogers Hornsby, Frankie Frisch

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Ken Boyer

LF: Stan Musial, Lou Brock, Vince Coleman

CF: Willie McGee, Jim Edmonds

RF: Joe Medwick, Enos Slaughter, Tip O'Neill

SP: Bob Gibson

SP: Dizzy Dean

SP: Mort Cooper

SP: Jesse Haines

RP: Al Brazle

RP: Todd Worrell

RP: Lindy McDaniel

RP: Al Hrabosky

RP: Jason Isringhausen

RESERVES:

C : Walker Cooper, Mike Matheny

1B: Jim Bottomley, Joe Cunningham, Ripper Collins

2B: Julian Javier

SS: Marty Marion

3B: Terry Pendleton, Todd Zeile, Pepper Martin

LF: Curt Flood, Terry Moore

CF: Ray Lankford

RF: George Hendrick, Brian Jordan

SP: Bob Forsch

SP: Bill Doak

SP: Howie Pollet

SP: Danny Cox

SP: Harry Brecheen

RP: Max Lanier

RP: John Tudor

RP: Larry Jackson

RP: Dave Veres

RP: Joe Hoerner

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CUBS

C : Gabby Hartnett, Johnny Kling

1B: Cap Anson, Mark Grace, Frank Chance, Phil Cavarretta

2B: Ryne Sandberg, Johnny Evers

SS: Ernie Banks, Joe Tinker

3B: Ron Santo

LF: Billy Williams

CF: Hack Wilson, Hank Sauer

RF: Sammy Sosa, Kiki Cuyler

SP: Mordecai Brown

SP: Fergie Jenkins

SP: Hippo Vaughn

SP: Ed Reulbach

SP: Charlie Root

RP: Rick Sutcliffe

RP: Lee Smith

RP: Randy Myers

RP: Bruce Sutter

RESERVES:

C : Bob O'Farrell, Jody Davis

1B: Bill Buckner, Leon Durham

2B: Billy Herman, Sparky Adams

SS: Shawon Dunston, Bill Dahlen, Don Kessinger

3B: Stan Hack, Heinie Zimmerman

LF: Andy Pafko

CF: Frank Shulte, Jose Cardenal, Rick Monday

RF: Frank Demaree, Riggs Stephenson

SP: Rick Reuschel

SP: Bill Lee

SP: Steve Trachsel

RP: Lon Warneke

SP: Guy Bush

SP: Orval Overall

SP: Jack Pfiester

RP: Ted Abernathy

RP: Ken Holtzman

RP: Larry French

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DEVIL RAYS

C : Mike DiFelice, John Flaherty

1B: Steve Cox

2B: Miguel Cairo

3B: Bobby Smith , Damian Rolls

SS: Aaron Ledesma

LF: Aubrey Huff, Quinton McCracken, Jose Guillen

CF: Randy Winn, Rocco Baldelli

RF: Ben Grieve, Carl Crawford

DH: Toby Hall

SP: Rolando Arrojo

SP: Wilson Ãlvarez

SP: Bryan Rekar

SP: Scot Kazmir

SP: Jim Morris

RP: Jim Mecir

RP: Albie Lopez

RP: Victor Zambrano

RP: Esteban Yan

RP: Travis Harper

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DIAMONDBACKS

C : Damian Miller, Kelly Stinnett

1B: Erubiel Durazo, Chad Tracy

2B: Craig Counsell, Junior Spivey

SS: Tony Womack, Alex Cintrón

3B: Jay Bell

LF: Luis Gonzalez

CF: Steve Finley

RF: Danny Bautista, David Delucci

SP: Randy Johnson

SP: Curt Schilling

SP: Brian Anderson

SP: Miguel Batista

SP: Armando Reynoso

SP: Omar Daal

RP: Greg Olson

RP: Greg Swindell

RP: Mike Morgan

RP: Jose Valverde

RP: Byung-Hyun Kim

RP: Matt Mantei

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DODGERS

C : Roy Campanella, Mike Piazza

1B: Gil Hodges, Steve Garvey

2B: Jackie Robinson

SS: Maury Wills, Pee Wee Reese

3B: Ron Cey

LF: Zack Wheat, Pedro Guerrero

CF: Duke Snider, Willie Davis

RF: Babe Herman, Carl Furillo, Raul Mondesi

SP: Sandy Koufax

SP: Fernando Valenzuela

SP: Burleigh Grimes

SP: Orel Hershiser

SP: Don Drysdale

SP: Dazzy Vance

SP: Don Newcombe

RP: Ron Perranoski

RP: Jim Brewer

RP: Eric Gagne

RESERVES

C : Steve Yeager, Mike Scioscia

1B: Dolph Camilli, Wes Parker, Eric Karros

2B: Davey Lopes, Steve Sax

SS: Bill Russell

3B: Adrian Beltre

LF: Wally Moon, Mike Marshall

CF: Brett Butler, Fielder Jones

RF: Dusty Baker, Manny Mota, Tommy Davis

SP: Don Sutton

SP: Hideo Nomo

SP: Johnny Podres

SP: Claude Osteen

SP: Jeff Pfeffer

SP: Van Lingle Mungo

RP: Jay Howell

RP: Joe Black

RP: Clem Labine

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GIANTS

C : Buck Ewing, Roger Bresnahan

1B: Johnny Mize, Willie McCovey, Bill Terry, Orlando Cepeda

2B: Jeff Kent

SS: Travis Jackson, George Davis

3B: Matt Williams, Freddy Lindstrom

LF: Barry Bonds

CF: Willie Mays, Bobby Bonds

RF: Mel Ott

SP: Christy Mathewson

SP: Carl Hubbell

SP: Juan Marichal

SP: Tim Keefe

SP: Gaylord Perry

RP: Rube Marquard

RP: Rod Beck

RP: Joe McGinnity

RP: Gary Lavelle

RP: Greg Minton

RP: Rob Nen

RESERVES

C : Chief Meyers

1B: Roger Connor, Will Clark, J.T. Snow

2B: Larry Doyle

SS: Rich Aurilia, Monte Ward, Alvin Dark

3B: Darrell Evans

LF: Kevin Mitchell, Mike Tiernan

CF: Jack Clark, Ross Youngs

RF: Felipe Alou, Tito Fuentes, Robby Thompson

SP: Jason Schmidt

SP: Tim Keefe

SP: Sal Maglie

SP: John Burkett

SP: Freddie Fitzsimmons

RP: Scott Garrelts

RP: Frank Linzy

RP: Al Holland

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INDIANS

C : Sandy Alomar Jr., Ray Fosse

1B: Jim Thome, Hal Trosky

2B: Nap Lajoie, Bobby Avila

SS: Omar Vizquel

3B: Al Rosen, Ken Keltner

LF: Kenny Lofton

CF: Tris Speaker

RF: Manny Ramirez, Earl Averill

DH: Albert Belle, Rocky Colavito

SP: Bob Feller

SP: Early Wynn

SP: Addie Joss

SP: Bob Lemon

SP: Bartolo Colon

RP: Sam McDowell

RP: Luis Tiant

RP: Jose Mesa

RP: Doug Jones

RP: Bob Wickman

RESERVES:

C : Luke Sewell, Victor Martinez

1B: Travis Hafner

2B: Carlos Baerga

3B: Bill Bradley, Brook Jacoby

SS: Ray Chapman, Joe Sewel, Lou Boudreau

LF: Tito Francona

CF: Larry Doby

RF: Rick Manning

DH: Andre Thornton

SP: Mel Harder

SP: Stan Coveleski

SP: Mike Garcia

SP: Bob Rhoads

RP: Paul Assenmacher

RP: Steve Olin

RP: Don Mossi

RP: Paul Shuey

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MARINERS

C : Dan Wilson, Dave Valle

1B: Alvin Davis, Dan Meyer

2B: Harold Reynolds, Bret Boone

SS: Alex Rodriguez

3B: Jim Presley

LF: Phil Bradley, Bruce Bochte

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Ichiro, Jay Buhner

DH: Edgar Martinez

SP: Jamie Moyer

SP: Freddy Garcia

SP: Mike Moore

SP: Erik Hanson

SP: Joel Pineiro

RP: Mike Schooler

RP: Bobby Ayala

RP: Arthur Rhodes

RP: Jeff Nelson

RP: Norm Charlton

RP: Kazahiro Sasaki

RESERVES:

CF Mike Cameron

2B Julio Cruz

DH Ken Phelps

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MARLINS

C : Charles Johnson, Mike Redmond

1B: Derrek Lee

2B: Luis Castillo

SS: Edgar Renteria, Alex Gonzalez

3B: Mike Lowell

LF: Cliff Floyd, Jeff Conine, Miguel Cabrera

CF: Preston Wilson, Chuck Carr, Juan Pierre

RF: Gary Sheffield, Mark Kotsay

SP: Livan Hernadez

SP: Josh Beckett

SP: Ryan Dempster

SP: Pat Rapp

SP: Dontrelle Willis

SP: Alex Fernandez

SP: A.J. Burnett

RP: Braden Looper

RP: Bryan Harvey

RP: Antonio Alfonseca

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METS

C : Todd Hundley, John Stearns

1B: Keith Hernandez, Ed Kranepool

2B: Edgardo Alfonzo

SS: Jose Reyes

3B: Howard Johnson, David Wright

LF: Cleon Jones, Kevin McReynolds

CF: Mookie Wilson, Tommy Agee

RF: Darryl Strawberry, Lee Mazzilli

SP: Tom Seaver

SP: Dwight Gooden

SP: David Cone

SP: Al Leiter

SP: Sid Fernandez

SP: Bobby Ojeda

RP: Jesse Orosco

RP: Roger McDowell

RP: Armando Benítez

RP: John Franco

RP: Ron Darling

RESERVES:

C : Jerry Grote

1B: Rusty Staub, Dave Kingman

2B: Wally Backman, Tim Teufel

SS: Kevin Elster, Rey Ordoñez, Bud Harrelson

3B: Dave Magadan

LF: Ron Swoboda, Benny Agbayani

CF: Steve Henderson, Roger Cedeño

RF: Joel Youngblood

SP: Jerry Kossman

SP: Jon Matlack

SP: Craig Swan

SP: Bobby J. Jones

RP: Rick Reed

RP: Turk Wendell

RP: Dennis Cook

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NATIONALS (EXPOS)

C : Gary Carter, Darrin Fletcher

1B: Ron Fairly

2B: Jose Vidro, Delino DeShields

SS: Orlando Cabrera

3B: Larry Parrish, Tim Wallach, Bob Bailey

LF: Tim Raines, Marquis Grissom, Warren Cromartie

CF: Andre Dawson, Rondell White

RF: Vladimir Guerrero, Ellis Valentine

SP: Bryn Smith

SP: Steve Rogers

SP: Bill Gullickson

SP: Dennis Martinez

RP: Jeff Reardon

RP: Ugueth Urbina

RP: Mike Marshall

RP: Mel Rojas

RP: Tim Burke

RP: Woodie Fryman

RESERVES:

LF Warren Cromartie

SS Wil Cordero

SP Tony Armas Jr.

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ORIOLES

C : Chris Hoiles, Wil Robinson

1B: George Sisler, Dan Brouthers

2B: Marty McManus

3B: Brooks Robinson, John McGraw

SS: Cal Ripken Jr., Hughie Jennings

LF: Willie Keeler, Ken Williams

CF: Brady Anderson

RF: Frank Robinson

DH: Eddie Murray, John Boog Powell

SP: Jim Palmer

SP: Mike Cuellar

SP: Mike Mussina

SP: Dave McNally

SP: Urban Shocker

RP: Tippy Martinez

RP: Greg Olson

RP: Mike Flanagan

RP: Scott McGregor

RP: Mike Boddicker

RESERVES:

C : Hank Severeid, Rick Dempsey

1B: George Stone, Jim Gentile

2B: Del Pratt, Davey Johnson

3B: Harlond Clift

SS: Mark Belanger, Mike Bordick

LF: Baby Doll Jacobson, Joe Kelley

CF: Paul Blair

RF: Jack Tobin, Al Bumbry

DH: Ken Singleton

SP: Milt Pappas

RP: Eddie Watt

RP: Stu Miller

RP: Dick Hall

RP: BJ Ryan

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PADRES

C : Benito Santiago, Terry Kennedy

1B: Ryan Klesko, Nate Colbert

2B: Bip Roberts, Quilvio Veras

SS: Garry Templeton

3B: Ken Caminiti, Phil Nevin

LF: Gene Richards

CF: Dave Winfield

RF: Tony Gwynn, Alan Wiggins

SP: Randy Jones

SP: Andy Benes

SP: Jake Peavy

SP: Eric Show

SP: Ed Whitson

SP: Andy Hawkins

RP: Mark Davis

RP: Dave Dravecky

RP: Andy Ashby

RP: Craig Lefferts

RP: Luis DeLeon

RP: Trevor Hoffman

RESERVES:

C : Fred Kendall

2B: Alan Wiggins

SS: Khalil Greene

3B: Luis Salazar, Sean Burroughs

RF: Ollie Brown

CF: Johnny Grubb

SP: Joey Hamilton

SP: Sterling Hitchcock

RP: Gary Lucas

RP: Akinora Otsuka

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PHILLIES

C : Bob Boone, Mike Lieberthal

1B: Dick Allen, Ed Delahanty

2B: Juan Samuel

SS: Jimmy Rollins, Larry Bowa

3B: Mike Schmidt, Scott Rolen

LF: Billy Hamilton, Del Ennis, Bobby Abreu

CF: Cy Williams, Richie Ashburn

RF: Sam Thompson, Chuck Klein

SP: Steve Carlton

SP: Pete Alexander

SP: Robin Roberts

SP: Curt Simmons

SP: Chris Short

RP: Tug McGraw

RP: Ron Reed

RP: Jim Konstanty

RP: Steve Bedrosian

RESERVES:

C : Darren Daulton, Spud Davis, Jimmie Wilson

1B: Don Hurst

2B: Cookie Rojas, Dave Bancroft, Chase Utley

SS: Granny Hamner

3B: Pinky Whitney, Russ Wrightstone

LF: Johnny Callison, Milt Thompson, Lefty O'Doul, Greg Luzinski

CF: Lenny Dykstra, Garry Maddox, Sherry Magee

RF: Tony Gonzalez

SP: Red Donahue

SP: Tully Sparks

RP: Jeff Parrett

RP: Ricky Bottalico

RP: Turk Farrell

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PIRATES

C : Jason Kendall, Tony Peña

1B: Willie Stargell, Jake Beckley

2B: Bill Mazeroski

SS: Honus Wagner, Arky Vaughan

3B: Pie Traynor

LF: Ralph Kiner, Fred Clarke, Brian Giles

CF: Max Carey, Lloyd Waner

RF: Roberto Clemente, Paul Waner, Dave Parker

SP: Wilbur Cooper

SP: Sam Leever

SP: Deacon Phillippe

SP: John Candelaria

SP: Vern Law

SP: Babe Adams

RP: Roy Face

RP: Kent Tekulve

RP: Dave Giusti

RESERVES:

C : Smoky Burgess, Manny Sanguillen

1B: Kevin Young, Gus Suhr

2B: Bill Madlock, George Grantham

SS: Dick Groat, Glenn Wright

3B: Bob Elliott, Richie Hebner, Bobby Bonilla

LF: Andy Van Slyke, Ginger Beaumont, Omar Moreno

CF: Al Oliver, Al Martin, Bill Virdon

RF: Tommy Leach, Richie Zisk

SP: Jesse Tannehill

SP: Doug Drabek

SP: Howie Camnitz

SP: Jesse Tannehill

RP: Bob Veale

RP: Harvey Haddix

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RANGERS

C : Ivan Rodriguez, Jim Sundberg

1B: Rafael Palmeiro, Mark Teixeira

2B: Julio Franco

3B: Buddy Bell, Dean Palmer

SS: Michael Young, Toby Harrah

LF: Rusty Greer, Frank Howard

CF: Ruben Sierra, Mickey Rivers

RF: Juan Gonzalez

DH: Jeff Burroughs

SP: Charlie Hough

SP: Kenny Rogers

SP: Kevin Brown

SP: Rick Helling

SP: Dick Bosman

RP: Danny Darwin

RP: John Wetteland

RP: Jeff Russell

RP: Ron Kline

RP: Darold Knowles

RESERVES

C : Gino Petralli

1B: Pete O'Brien, Lee Stevens, Mike Epstein

2B: Alfonso Soriano, Bump Wills, Mark McLemore, Dave Nelson

3B: Ken McMullen, Hank Blalock

SS: Eddie Brinkman

LF: Oddibe McDowell

CF: Billy Sample

RF: Pete Incaviglia

DH: Frank Catalanotto

RP: Bobby Witt

RP: Fransisco Cordero

RP: Mitch Williams

RP: Doc Medich

SP: Darren Oliver

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RED SOX

C : Carlton Fisk, Jason Varitek

1B: David Ortíz, Mo Vaughn

2B: Bobby Doerr

SS: Nomar Garciaparra, Rico Petrocelli, Joe Cronin

3B: Wade Boggs, Jimmy Collins

LF: Ted Williams, Jim Rice, Mike Greenwell

CF: Fred Lynn

RF: Dwight Evans

DH: Carl Yastrzemski

SP: Cy Young

SP: Roger Clemens

SP: Pedro Martinez

SP: Smokey Joe Wood

SP: Tim Wakefield

RP: Derek Lowe

RP: Mel Parnell

RP: Dick Radatz

RP: Ellis Kinder

RESERVES

C : Rick Ferrell, Rich Gedman, Bill Carrigan

1B: George Scott

2B: Billy Goodman

SS: Vern Stephens

3B: Larry Gardner

LF: Dom DiMaggio

CF: Reggie Smith

RF: Jackie Jensen, Harry Hooper

SP: Jim Lonborg

SP: Dutch Leonard

SP: Bill Lee

SP: Rube Foster

RP: Tom Burgmeier

RP: Bob Stanley

RP: Carl Mays

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REDS

C : Johnny Bench, Ernie Lombardi

1B: Tony Perez, Ted Kluszewski, Dan Driessen

2B: Joe Morgan

SS: Barry Larkin, David Concepcion

3B: Pete Rose

LF: George Foster, Vada Pinson

CF: Eric Davis

RF: Ken Griffey Sr., Wally Post

SP: Dolf Luque

SP: Eppa Rixey

SP: Bucky Walters

SP: Bob Purkey

SP: Jim Maloney

SP: Johnny Vander Meer

RP: Clay Carroll

RP: Rob Dibble

RP: Danny Graves

RP: Jose Rijo

RP: Pedro Borbon

RESERVES

C : Johnny Edwards, Ed Bailey

1B: Bid McPhee, Frank McCormick, Sean Casey

2B: Hughie Critz, Johnny Temple

SS: Roy McMillan

3B: Heinie Groh, Chris Sabo

LF: Mike Mitchell, Adam Dunn

CF: Cesar Geronimo, Reggie Sanders

RF: Edd Roush, Gus Bell

SP: Paul Derringer

SP: Don Gullett

SP: Joe Nuxhall

SP: Jack Billingham

SP: Tom Browning

RP: Tony Mullane

RP: Mario Soto

RP: Doug Bair

RP: Jeff Shaw

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ROCKIES

C : Joe Girardi, Jeff Reed

1B: Todd Helton, Andres Galarraga

2B: Mike Lansing, Eric Young

SS: Neifi Perez, Juan Uribe

3B: Vinny Castilla

LF: Dante Bichette, Terry Shumpert

CF: Ellis Burks, Matt Holliday

RF: Larry Walker, John Vander Wal

SP: Pedro Astacio

SP: Jason Jennings

SP: Curtis Leskanic

SP: Jerry Dipoto

SP: Kevin Ritz

RP: Steve Reed

RP: Jose Jimenez

RP: Darren Holmes

RP: Bruce Ruffin

RP: Brian Fuentes

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ROYALS

C : Mike MacFarlane, John Wathan

1B: Mike Sweeney, John Mayberry

2B: Frank White

3B: George Brett

SS: Freddie Patek, U.L. Washington

LF: Willie Wilson, Johnny Damon

CF: Amos Otis, Carlos Beltran

RF: Jermaine Dye, Tom Goodwin, Danny Tartabull

DH: Hal McRae

SP: Dennis Leonard

SP: Bret Saberhagen

SP: Larry Gura

SP: Kevin Appier

SP: Paul Splittorff

SP: Mark Gubicza

RP: Dan Quisenberry

RP: Jeff Montgomery

RP: Tom Gordon

RESERVES:

C : Darrell Porter

1B: Steve Balboni, Willie Aikens

2B: Joe Randa

3B: Kevin Seitzer

LF: Brian McRae, Jim Eisenreich

CF: Al Cowens

RF: Bo Jackson, Clint Hurdle

DH: Bob Hamelin

SP: Tom Burgmeier

RP: Steve Busby

RP: Steve Farr

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TIGERS

C : Bill Freehan, Lance Parrish

1B: Hank Greenberg, Norm Cash, Rudy York

2B: Charlie Gehringer, Lou Whitaker

SS: Alan Trammell

3B: George Kell, Travis Fryman

LF: Al Kaline

CF: Ty Cobb

RF: Sam Crawford

DH: Harry Heilmann, Cecil Fielder

SP: Hal Newhouser

SP: Tommy Bridges

SP: Denny McLain

SP: Jack Morris

SP: Dizzy Trout

SP: Mickey Lolich

RP: John Hiller

RP: Willie Hernandez

RP: Mike Henneman

RP: Todd Jones

RESERVES:

1B: Tony Clark

2B: Damion Easley

SS: Billy Rogell

LF: Willie Horton

CF: Chet Lemon

RF: Kirk Gibson, Bobby Higginson

SP: Jim Bunning

SP: Frank Lary

RP: Aurelio Lopez

RP: Schoolboy Rowe

RP: Wild Bill Donovan

RP: Todd Jones

RP: Terry Fox

RP: Fred Scherman

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TWINS (& SENATORS)

C : Earl Battey, Brian Harper

1B: Harmon Killebrew

2B: Rod Carew, Chuck Knoblauch

3B: Gary Gaetti

SS: Cecil Travis, Zoilo Versalles

LF: Goose Goslin

CF: Kirby Puckett, Clyde Milan, Torii Hunter

RF: Sam Rice, Roy Sievers

DH: Tony Oliva, Kent Hrbek

SP: Walter Johnson

SP: Bert Blyleven

SP: Jim Kaat

SP: Johan Santana

SP: Frank Viola

RP: Firpo Marberry

RP: Al Worthington

RP: Eddie Guardado

RP: Rick Aguilera

RESERVES

C : Joe Mauer, Muddy Ruel

1B: Mickey Vernon, Joe Judge, Joe Kuhel

2B: Buddy Myer

3B: Eddie Yost, Cory Koskie

SS: Roy Smalley

LF: Jim Lemon

CF: Heinie Manush, Matt Lawton

RF: Jacque Jones

SP: Dutch Leonar

SP: Harry Harper

SP: Brad Radke

SP: Camilo Pascual

SP: Jim Perry

RP: Tom Hall

RP: Joe Nathan

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WHITE SOX

C : Ray Schalk, Sherm Lollar

1B: Frank Thomas

2B: Eddie Collins, Nellie Fox, Ray Durham

3B: Robin Ventura

SS: Luis Aparicio, Luke Appling

LF: Joe Jackson, Minnie Minoso

CF: Lance Johnson

RF: Magglio Ordonez

DH: Harold Baines, Paul Konerko

SP: Ed Walsh

SP: Billy Pierce

SP: Ted Lyons

SP: Eddie Cicotte

SP: Jack McDowell

RP: Hoyt Wilhelm

RP: Bobby Thigpen

RP: Red Faber

RP: Wilbur Wood

RP: Roberto Hernandez

RESERVES

1B: Walt Dropo

3B: Willie Kamm, Buck Weaver

SS: Ozzie Guillen

LF: Bibb Falk

CF: Happy Felsch

RF: Jim Landis

DH: Carlos Lee

SP: Tommy John

SP: Lefty Williams

SP: Mark Buehrle

SP: Thornton Lee

RP: La Marr Hoyt

RP: Scott Radinsky

RP: Keith Foulke

RP: Damaso Marte

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YANKESS

C : Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey

1B: Lou Gehrig, Don Mattingly, Tino Martínez

2B: Tony Lazzeri, Joe Gordon

SS: Derek Jeter, Phil Rizzuto

3B: Graig Nettles

LF: Joe DiMaggio

CF: Mickey Mantle, Bernie Williams

RF: Babe Ruth, Paul O'Neill

DH: Roger Maris

SP: Whitey Ford

SP: Lefty Gomez

SP: Ron Guidry

SP: Waite Hoyt

SP: Red Ruffing

RP: Sparky Lyle

RP: Dave Righetti

RP: Goose Gossage

RP: Mariano Rivera

RESERVES:

C : Jorge Posada, Elston Howard, Thurman Munson

1B: Bill Skowron

2B: Willie Randolph

SS: Tony Kubek

3B: Red Rolfe, Gil McDougald

LF: Earle Combs, Bob Meusel

CF: Charlie Keller, Ben Chapman, Roy White

RF: Hank Bauer, Bobby Murcer

SP: Jack Chesbro

SP: Spud Chandler

SP: Bob Turley

SP: Andy Pettitte

SP: Eddie Lopat

SP: Herb Pennock

SP: Mel Stottlemyre

RP: Johnny Murphy

RP: Hal Reniff

Opinions?

[jp_hidalgo]

grrreat!

[BigRog]

with the reserves, are you planning on implementing them in the minors?

[jp_hidalgo]

yes I am

[marsl]

I was wondering with teams that don't have enough

players if you could put 2008 teams

for the minors?

than you could save time, or does this make no sens ?

i'm looking forward to this mod

thanks for your time investment

Marsl

Montreal Canada

[Yankee4Life]

YANKESS

LF: Joe DiMaggio

CF: Mickey Mantle, Bernie Williams

RF: Babe Ruth, Paul O'Neill

Opinions?

Why would you put Bernie Williams ahead of Joe Dimaggio in the center field spot for the Yankees? That's plain wrong.

And for the Dodgers, you completely left out a great third baseman named Billy Cox, who was a lot better at third than Cey or Beltre. Or are you just looking at batting averages for these rosters?

[pulseox]

Is this mod still alive (I hope). If so, I think Duke Snider should be in the Dodger roster, somewhere.

[emath2432]

See, I did this for High Heat. I know there are two ways to go about it, and I seem to be in the minority...

How can you justify NOT having Frank Robinson on both the Reds, and the Orioles? Not having Jimmie Foxx on both the Sox, and the A's? Nolan on the Rangers, Astros, and Angels?

I just can't grasp that notion. If you asked me to come up with the all-time greatest Reds roster, and asked me who are the Reds all-time Outfielders, Frank Robinson is easily one of the top 3. Then, if you asked me about the Orioles... Frank Robinson is easily in the top 3... I can't justify playing against one of these teams (or using that team), in a franchise, and not have frank Robinson on it...

The way I constructed my teams is using their greatest seasonal stats to create them. In High Heat it was easier, as you just edited in the stats, and it created the ratings. Frank Robinson's stats in his best year with the Reds is how you created him in the editor, then his best years with the Orioles is how you created him there. He had two different ratings sets. Essentially, he was two different guys, just with the same name, and same picture.

Anyway, like I said, I seem to be in the minority, so enjoy your rosters when they are finished... One thing I know is how much time and effort something like this takes.. Mine still are not 100% done, and I started them in 2001/2002 time frame...

[Homer]

that's weird, because i feel like i'm in the minority not wanting two frank robinsons playing on different teams. but that's why the game and mvpedit has the options to trade guys. yeah, you have to make tough decisions...but so what? i just don't see the point of having guys on two or more different teams. because why would you stop there? why not just make all guys on all teams they played with? why not make guys in different eras of their careers? babe ruth was an excellent pitcher, but we know him for his offense. so why not create both? why not create a steroids bonds and a pre-steroids bonds? they were both excellent, but in different ways? why not make paul molitors in his infield days and his days as a DH? he was excellent in both eras.

i'm just saying that with an all timers project, there should be more than enough guys to fill in the spots. plus being that the game only allows you to create a roster of no more than 3250 guys, and you have multiple versions of hundreds of guys, that number will shrink fast. see, i can justify really easy on only having the guys in there once. there are thousands of guys that could fit in the roster. if you repeat players, you're gonna have to leave guys out, which i think is a worse idea than not having two versions of the same guy.

i guess if this were the perfect game and we had no restrictions, then fine. but the way this game engine is set up, it makes no sense to repeat guys if you're going to fill all levels with all timers.

but i'm with you on how long this takes. i don't see the end near for my version either...

[Padres67]

I am using just the teams from 1978-which means no Rockies, Dbacks,Marlins, Rays. In mvp edit I am just taking the major league teams from 1978 and coming up with all timers for just basically the starting 9 and the starting 5 with 2-3 relief pitchers from an all time perspective. I am placing cyberfaces when I find them. Pretty much a down and dirty method.

[Endless]

The Mets should have Mike Piazza for sure. And I would take out Roger Cedeno. He really doesn't come to mind when I think "Mets". I would probably add Carlos Beltran in his place.

[emath2432]

because why would you stop there? why not just make all guys on all teams they played with? why not make guys in different eras of their careers? babe ruth was an excellent pitcher, but we know him for his offense. so why not create both? why not create a steroids bonds and a pre-steroids bonds? they were both excellent, but in different ways? why not make paul molitors in his infield days and his days as a DH? he was excellent in both eras.

Please don't take this negatively, because that is not how it sounds in my head... May seem like it in print though...

I think the above examples are a little over the top. At least the Molitor part. Molitor wasn't an all-time great for anyone other than the Brewers, so I make him as a Brewer, using his best stats as his time with the Brewers. There is no reason to have two versions of him in Milwaukee, and he wasn't good enough to be on anyone elses team. Trust me, there has to be some limitations. Rogers Hornsby had one of the greatest seasons in Cub history, but he isn't on the Cubs... He played 1 full season there, and was a part time player, and manager the other 3.

However, I have two Babe Ruth's in mine. He is a pitcher for the Red Sox, and a RF for the Yankees. I also have a pre steroid Bonds on the Pirates, and a Post Steroid Bonds on the Giants. It has nothing to do with different eras of a players career. It has to do with, if a player is great for a team, how do I tell that team that can't have one of the greatest players in their history, simply because he was also great for another team.

Ask any Ranger fans to name the top 5 pitchers in their teams history. I bet they name Ryan, Jenkins, and maybe Kevin Brown. Doing it the other way, and they are lucky if they get Kevin Brown (and not even the GREAT Kevin Brown, but the pretty good Kevin Brown).

It sounds silly, but I took the approach of... If this were like an all-star vote, and each teams stadium passed out ballots for their franchises all-time roster... And the fans got to pick.... I bet Dawson is on the Nationals/Expos, and the Cubs. I bet Ryan makes the Angles, Astros, and Rangers. I bet Foxx gets the Sox, and the A's...Sure, it's all hypothetical, since I am the one making the choices, and not actually the fans, but that is how I based it...

Trust me, I am not saying yours is wrong. I applaud the fact you are taking this on. I also think that doing it your way will make for some great teams....

Just, I would rather see Larry Walker in Montreal/Washington, than I would some body less talented, just because he went on to be even better in Colorado.

We'll probably have to agree to disagree though... Good luck finishing. I have all the ML done, and most of the reserves (AAA) , except for the pitching, in my High Heat one... Though that is on the back burner now with me getting into MVP at the moment...

[Homer]

nothing negative meant here at all. really.

but my point again, where and how do you decide which case is falls under which category? yeah, there are obvious ones. but you say that about molitor, again, how do you decide that? you're just one person's opinion. it's completely subjective. yeah, i know molitor was an all time great for the brewers. but ask a blue jays fan or a twins fan who's looking at a roster where guys are repeated, and explain to them why he's excluded. he was a badass hitter for those teams.

what about other guys like boggs? he's a red sox through and through. but he won his only WS with the yankees and was clearly on the decline. is the WS not as important a stat as his offensive stats?

and again, on top of that, if i make so many versions of these guys, who am i going to leave out?

i simply solve all those problems by placing them on one team. trades can always be made. but there's plenty of greats in all the rosters no matter which way you go. i personally am making this because i want to see the greats play against each other, not with themselves.

but sounds like you're further than me. i'm doing one organization at a time (mlb to A). not even half way there yet!