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People wanted Jody Davis to be the Cubs backup C, not some Johnny Kling!

On the rockies all time team: Brent Mayne should be replaced by Joe Girardi. Mayne only spent 1 and a half years with the Rockies while Girardi was there for 3 years.

On the Reds all time team: HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY PUT TONY PEREZ AS A BACKUP!!!

Red Sox: Take off Vern Stephens and replace him w/ John Valentin. Valentin had better stats and played w/ the Sox longer.

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cubsfaninfla said:

People wanted Jody Davis to be the Cubs backup C, not some Johnny Kling!

We've talked about this...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/davisjo02.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/klingjo01.shtml

Check it yourself, Kling was better.

cubsfaninfla said:

On the rockies all time team: Brent Mayne should be replaced by Joe Girardi. Mayne only spent 1 and a half years with the Rockies while Girardi was there for 3 years.

OK. You are right. Girardi is a better choice.

cubsfaninfla said:

On the Reds all time team: HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY PUT TONY PEREZ AS A BACKUP!!!

Nope. The comma doesn't sepair backups and officials... It's only a way to write the players playing on their primary position. Because (in Reds' case) Tony Perez and Pete Rose bothe are 3B... and both are indispensable... Perhaps Rose will play in OF when Perez play at 3B. Don't worry about the lineup.

cubsfaninfla said:

Red Sox: Take off Vern Stephens and replace him w/ John Valentin. Valentin had better stats and played w/ the Sox longer.

Stephens and Valentin were deleted from the ML team, they will be in the reserves for Red Sox... check my upcoming update.

Thanks for your help man. :wtg:

I've got to look for more Jody Davis adepts to put him in AT Cubs. :shrug:

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ALL TIMERS UPDATE (please tell me corrections) :help:

Braves

C : Javy López, Joe Torre

1B: Joe Adcock, Fred McGriff, Fred Tenney

2B: Bobby Lowe

SS: Rabbit Maranville, Herman Long

3B: Eddie Mathews, Chipper Jones

LF: Hugh Duffy, Wally Berger

CF: Dale Murphy, Andruw Jones

RF: Hank Aaron

SP: Warren Spahn

SP: Greg Maddux

SP: Phil Niekro

SP: Tom Glavine

SP: Johnny Sain

SP: Kid Nichols

SP: Lew Burdette

RP: John Smoltz

RP: Rick Camp

RP: Gene Garber

Mets

C : Todd Hundley

1B: Keith Hernandez, Ed Kranepool

2B: Edgardo Alfonzo, Wally Backman

SS: Bud Harrelson

3B: Howard Johnson

LF: Rusty Staub, Cleon Jones, Kevin McReynolds

CF: Mookie Wilson, Tommy Agee

RF: Darryl Strawberry, Lee Mazzilli

SP: Tom Seaver

SP: Dwight Gooden

SP: David Cone

SP: Al Leiter

SP: Sid Fernandez

SP: Bobby Ojeda

RP: Jesse Orosco

RP: Roger McDowell

RP: Armando Benítez

RP: John Franco

RP: Ron Darling

Expos/Nationals

C : Gary Carter

1B: Ron Fairly

2B: Jose Vidro, Delino DeShields

SS: Wil Cordero

3B: Larry Parrish, Tim Wallach, Bob Bailey

LF: Tim Raines, Marquis Grissom, Warren Cromartie

CF: Andre Dawson, Rondell White

RF: Vladimir Guerrero, Ellis Valentine

SP: Bryn Smith

SP: Steve Rogers

SP: Bill Gullickson

SP: Dennis Martinez

RP: Jeff Reardon

RP: Ugueth Urbina

RP: Mike Marshall

RP: Mel Rojas

RP: Tim Burke

RP: Woodie Fryman

Phillies

C : Bob Boone, Darren Daulton, Mike Lieberthal

1B: Dick Allen, Ed Delahanty

2B: Juan Samuel, Cookie Rojas

SS: Larry Bowa

3B: Mike Schmidt, Scott Rolen

LF: Billy Hamilton, Del Ennis, Bobby Abreu

CF: Cy Williams, Richie Ashburn

RF: Sam Thompson, Chuck Klein

SP: Steve Carlton

SP: Pete Alexander

SP: Robin Roberts

SP: Curt Schilling

RP: Tug McGraw

RP: Ron Reed

RP: Jim Konstanty

RP: Steve Bedrosian

Marlins

C : Charles Johnson, Mike Redmond

1B: Derrek Lee

2B: Luis Castillo

SS: Edgar Renteria, Alex Gonzalez

3B: Mike Lowell

LF: Cliff Floyd, Jeff Conine, Miguel Cabrera

CF: Preston Wilson, Chuck Carr, Juan Pierre

RF: Gary Sheffield, Mark Kotsay

SP: Livan Hernadez

SP: Josh Beckett

SP: Ryan Dempster

SP: Pat Rapp

SP: Alex Fernandez

SP: A.J. Burnett

RP: Braden Looper

RP: Bryan Harvey

RP: Antonio Alfonseca

RP: Robb Nen

Pirates

C : Tony Peña, Jason Kendall

1B: Willie Stargell, Jake Beckley

2B: Bill Mazeroski

SS: Honus Wagner, Arky Vaughan

3B: Pie Traynor

LF: Ralph Kiner, Fred Clarke, Brian Giles

CF: Max Carey, Lloyd Waner

RF: Roberto Clemente, Paul Waner, Dave Parker

SP: Wilbur Cooper

SP: Sam Leever

SP: Deacon Phillippe

SP: John Candelaria

SP: Vern Law

SP: Babe Adams

RP: Roy Face

RP: Kent Tekulve

RP: Dave Giusti

Colt's 45/Astros

C : Alan Ashby

1B: Jeff Bagwell, Bob Watson, Glenn Davis

2B: Craig Biggio, Bill Doran

SS: Dickie Thon

3B: Enos Cabell

LF: Jose Cruz, Richard Hidalgo, Terry Puhl

CF: Moises Alou, Cesar Cedeno, Jimmy Wynn

RF: Lance Berkman, Kevin Bass, Derek Bell

SP: J.R. Richard

SP: Mike Scott

SP: Joe Niekro

SP: Dave Smith

SP: Mike Hampton

SP: Larry Dierker

RP: Joe Sambito

RP: Billy Wagner

Reds

C : Johnny Bench, Ernie Lombardi

1B: Ted Kluszewski, Dan Driessen, Sean Casey

2B: Joe Morgan

SS: Barry Larkin, David Concepcion

3B: Pete Rose, Tony Perez

LF: George Foster, Vada Pinson

CF: Eric Davis

RF: Ken Griffey Sr., Wally Post

SP: Dolf Luque

SP: Eppa Rixey

SP: Bucky Walters

SP: Bob Purkey

SP: Jim Maloney

RP: Clay Carroll

RP: Rob Dibble

RP: Danny Graves

RP: Jose Rijo

RP: Pedro Borbon

Cardinals

C : Ted Simmons, Tim McCarver

1B: Mark McGwire, Albert Pujols

2B: Rogers Hornsby, Frankie Frisch

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Ken Boyer

LF: Stan Musial, Lou Brock, Vince Coleman, Jesse Burkett

CF: Willie McGee, Tip O´Neill, Jim Edmonds

RF: Joe Medwick, Enos Slaughter

SP: Bob Gibson

SP: Dizzy Dean

SP: Mort Cooper

SP: Jesse Haines

RP: Al Brazle

RP: Todd Worrell

RP: Lindy McDaniel

RP: Al Hrabosky

Cubs

C : Gabby Hartnett, Johnny Kling

1B: Cap Anson, Mark Grace, Frank Chance, Phil Cavarretta

2B: Ryne Sandberg, Johnny Evers

SS: Ernie Banks, Joe Tinker

3B: Ron Santo

LF: Billy Williams

CF: Hack Wilson, Hank Sauer

RF: Sammy Sosa, Kiki Cuyler

SP: Mordecai Brown

SP: Fergie Jenkins

SP: Hippo Vaughn

SP: Ed Reulbach

SP: Charlie Root

RP: Bruce Sutter

RP: Rick Sutcliffe

RP: Lee Smith

RP: Randy Myers

Rockies

C: Jeff Reed, Joe Girardi

1B: Todd Helton, Andres Galarraga

2B: Mike Lansing, Eric Young

SS: Neifi Perez, Walt Weiss, Juan Uribe

3B: Vinny Castilla, Terry Shumpert

LF: Dante Bichette, John Vander Wal

CF: Ellis Burks

RF: Larry Walker, Jay Payton

SP: Pedro Astacio

SP: Jason Jennings

SP: Curtis Leskanic

SP: Jerry Dipoto

SP: Kevin Ritz

RP: Steve Reed

RP: Jose Jimenez

RP: Darren Holmes

RP: Bruce Ruffin

Diamondbacks

C : Damian Miller

1B: Erubiel Durazo, Travis Lee

2B: Tony Womack, Alex Cintrón

SS: Jay Bell, Junior Spivey

3B: Craig Counsell, David Delucci

LF: Luis Gonzalez

CF: Steve Finley, Quinton McCracken

RF: Danny Bautista, Kelly Stinett

SP: Randy Johnson

SP: Brian Anderson

SP: Omar Daal

SP: Miguel Batista

SP: Armando Reynoso

RP: Greg Olson

RP: Greg Swindell

RP: Mike Morgan

RP: Mike Myers

RP: Byung-Hyun Kim

RP: Matt Mantei

Padres

C : Benito Santiago, Terry Kennedy, Fred Kendall

1B: Ryan Klesko, Nate Colbert

2B: Bip Roberts, Quilvio Veras

SS: Garry Templeton

3B: Ken Caminiti, Phil Nevin

LF: Gene Richards

CF: Dave Winfield

RF: Tony Gwynn, Alan Wiggins

SP: Randy Jones

SP: Andy Benes

SP: Eric Show

SP: Ed Whitson

SP: Andy Hawkins

RP: Mark Davis

RP: Dave Dravecky

RP: Andy Ashby

RP: Craig Lefferts

RP: Luis DeLeon

RP: Trevor Hoffman

Dodgers

C : Roy Campanella, Mike Piazza

1B: Gil Hodges, Steve Garvey

2B: Jackie Robinson

SS: Maury Wills, Pee Wee Reese

3B: Ron Cey

LF: Zack Wheat, Pedro Guerrero

CF: Duke Snider, Willie Davis

RF: Babe Herman, Carl Furillo, Raul Mondesi

SP: Sandy Koufax

SP: Fernando Valenzuela

SP: Burleigh Grimes

SP: Orel Hershiser

SP: Don Drysdale

SP: Dazzy Vance

SP: Don Newcombe

RP: Ron Perranoski

RP: Jim Brewer

RP: Eric Gagne

Giants

C : Buck Ewing, Chief Meyers

1B: Johnny Mize, Willie McCovey, Bill Terry, Orlando Cepeda

2B: Jeff Kent

SS: Travis Jackson, Rich Aurilia

3B: Matt Williams, Freddy Lindstrom

LF: Barry Bonds

CF: Willie Mays, Bobby Bonds

RF: Mel Ott

SP: Christy Mathewson

SP: Carl Hubbell

SP: Juan Marichal

SP: Tim Keefe

SP: Gaylord Perry

RP: Rube Marquard

RP: Rod Beck

RP: Joe McGinnity

RP: Gary Lavelle

RP: Greg Minto

Yankees

C : Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey

1B: Lou Gehrig, Don Mattingly, Tino Martínez

2B: Tony Lazzeri, Joe Gordon

SS: Derek Jeter, Phil Rizzuto

3B: Graig Nettles

LF: Joe DiMaggio

CF: Mickey Mantle, Bernie Williams

RF: Babe Ruth, Paul O'Neill

DH: Roger Maris

SP: Whitey Ford

SP: Lefty Gomez

SP: Ron Guidry

SP: Waite Hoyt

SP: Red Ruffing

RP: Sparky Lyle

RP: Dave Righetti

RP: Goose Gossage

RP: Mariano Rivera

Red Sox

C : Carlton Fisk, Jason Varitek

1B: George Scott, Mo Vaughn

2B: Bobby Doerr, Joe Cronin

SS: Nomar Garciaparra, Rico Petrocelli

3B: Wade Boggs, Jimmy Collins

LF: Ted Williams, Jim Rice, Mike Greenwell

CF: Fred Lynn

RF: Dwight Evans

DH: Carl Yastrzemski

SP: Cy Young

SP: Roger Clemens

SP: Pedro Martinez

SP: Smokey Joe Wood

RP: Dick Radatz

RP: Derek Lowe

RP: Ellis Kinder

RP: Tim Wakefield

RP: Mel Parnell

Tigers

C : Bill Freehan, Lance Parrish

1B: Hank Greenberg, Norm Cash, Rudy York

2B: Charlie Gehringer, Lou Whitaker

SS: Alan Trammell

3B: George Kell, Travis Fryman

LF: Al Kaline, Willie Horton

CF: Ty Cobb

RF: Sam Crawford, Bobby Higginson

DH: Harry Heilmann, Cecil Fielder

SP: Hal Newhouser

SP: Tommy Bridges

SP: Denny McLain

SP: Jack Morris

SP: Dizzy Trout

RP: John Hiller

RP: Willie Hernandez

RP: Mike Henneman

Orioles

C : Chris Hoiles, Wil Robinson

1B: George Sisler, Dan Brouthers

2B: Marty McManus

3B: Brooks Robinson, John McGraw

SS: Cal Ripken Jr., Hughie Jennings

LF: Willie Keeler, Ken Williams

CF: Brady Anderson

RF: Frank Robinson

DH: Eddie Murray, John Boog Powell

SP: Jim Palmer

SP: Mike Cuellar

SP: Mike Mussina

SP: Dave McNally

SP: Urban Shocker

RP: Tippy Martinez

RP: Greg Olson

RP: Mike Flanagan

RP: Scott McGregor

RP: Mike Boddicker

Blues Jays

C : Ernie Whitt, Darrin Fletcher

1B: John Olerud

2B: Roberto Alomar, Damaso Garcia

SS: Tony Fernandez

3B: Kelly Gruber

LF: George Bell, Joe Carter, Jose Cruz Jr.

CF: Lloyd Moseby, Devon White, Shannon Stewart

RF: Jesse Barfield, Shawn Green

DH: Carlos Delgado

SP: Dave Stieb

SP: David Wells

SP: Juan Guzman

SP: Roy Halladay

RP: Mark Eichhorn

RP: Tom Henke

RP: Pat Hentgen

RP: Duane Ward

RP: Billy Koch

Indians

C : Sandy Alomar Jr., Ray Fosse

1B: Jim Thome, Hal Trosky

2B: Nap Lajoie, Bobby Avila

SS: Omar Vizquel

3B: Al Rosen, Ken Keltner

LF: Kenny Lofton

CF: Tris Speaker

RF: Manny Ramirez, Earl Averill

DH: Albert Belle, Rocky Colavito

SP: Bob Feller

SP: Early Wynn

SP: Addie Joss

SP: Bob Lemon

SP: Bartolo Colon

RP: Sam McDowell

RP: Luis Tiant

RP: Jose Mesa

RP: Doug Jones

RP: Bob Wickman

White Sox

C : Ray Schalk, Sherm Lollar

1B: Frank Thomas

2B: Eddie Collins, Nellie Fox, Ray Durham

3B: Robin Ventura, Buck Weaver

SS: Luis Aparicio, Luke Appling

LF: Joe Jackson, Minnie Minoso

CF: Lance Johnson

RF: Magglio Ordonez

DH: Harold Baines

SP: Ed Walsh

SP: Billy Pierce

SP: Ted Lyons

SP: Eddie Cicotte

SP: Jack McDowell

RP: Hoyt Wilhelm

RP: Bobby Thigpen

RP: Red Faber

RP: Wilbur Wood

RP: Roberto Hernandez

Senators/Twins

C : Earl Battey, Brian Harper

1B: Harmon Killebrew

2B: Rod Carew, Chuck Knoblauch

3B: Gary Gaetti

SS: Cecil Travis, Zoilo Versalles

LF: Goose Goslin

CF: Kirby Puckett, Clyde Milan, Torii Hunter

RF: Sam Rice, Roy Sievers

DH: Tony Oliva, Kent Hrbek

SP: Walter Johnson

SP: Bert Blyleven

SP: Jim Kaat

SP: Jim Perry

SP: Frank Viola

RP: Firpo Marberry

RP: Al Worthington

RP: Eddie Guardado

RP: Rick Aguilera

Royals

C : Mike MacFarlane, John Wathan

1B: Mike Sweeney, John Mayberry

2B: Frank White

3B: George Brett

SS: Freddie Patek, U.L. Washington

LF: Willie Wilson, Johnny Damon

CF: Amos Otis, Carlos Beltran

RF: Jermaine Dye, Tom Goodwin, Danny Tartabull

DH: Hal McRae

SP: Dennis Leonard

SP: Bret Saberhagen

SP: Larry Gura

SP: Kevin Appier

SP: Paul Splittorff

SP: Mark Gubicza

RP: Dan Quisenberry

RP: Jeff Montgomery

RP: Tom Gordon

Pilots/Brewers

C : B.J. Surhoff, Dave Nilsson, Charlie Moore

1B: Cecil Cooper, Richie Sexson

2B: Jim Gantner, Don Money

3B: Jeff Cirillo

SS: Robin Yount

LF: Jeromy Burnitz, Greg Vaughn, Geoff Jenkins

CF: Gorman Thomas, Darryl Hamilton

RF: Ben Oglivie, Sixto Lezcano

DH: Paul Molitor

SP: Teddy Higuera

SP: Jim Slaton

SP: Mike Caldwell

SP: Moose Haas

SP: Cal Eldred

RP: Pete Vuckovich

RP: Dan Plesac

RP: Mike Fetters

Mariners

C : Dan Wilson, Dave Valle

1B: Alvin Davis, Dan Meyer

2B: Harold Reynolds, Julio Cruz, Bret Boone

3B: Jim Presley

SS: Alex Rodriguez

LF: Phil Bradley, Bruce Bochte

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Ichiro, Jay Buhner

DH: Edgar Martinez

SP: Jamie Moyer

SP: Freddy Garcia

SP: Erik Hanson

SP: Paul Abbott

RP: Kazahiro Sasaki

RP: Jeff Nelson

RP: Norm Charlton

RP: Edwin Nunez

RP: Bobby Ayala

RP: Mike Schooler

Angels

C : Buck Rodgers, Bengie Molina

1B: Wally Joyner

2B: Bobby Grich, Sandy Alomar Sr.

3B: Doug DeCinces, Troy Glaus

SS: Jim Fregosi

LF: Brian Downing

CF: Darin Erstad

RF: Garret Anderson, Tim Salmon

DH: Don Baylor, Chili Davis

SP: Nolan Ryan

SP: Frank Tanana

SP: Dean Chance

SP: Mark Langston

SP: Chuck Finley

RP: Francisco Rodriguez

RP: Donnie Moore

RP: Troy Percival

RP: Mike Witt

RP: Jim Abbott

Senators/Rangers

C : Ivan Rodriguez, Jim Sundberg

1B: Rafael Palmeiro, Pete O'Brien

2B: Julio Franco

3B: Buddy Bell, Dean Palmer

SS: Michael Young, Toby Harrah

LF: Rusty Greer, Frank Howard

CF: Ruben Sierra, Mickey Rivers

RF: Juan Gonzalez

DH: Jeff Burroughs

SP: Charlie Hough

SP: Kenny Rogers

SP: Kevin Brown

SP: Rick Helling

SP: Dick Bosman

RP: Danny Darwin

RP: John Wetteland

RP: Jeff Russell

RP: Ron Kline

RP: Darold Knowles

Athletics

C : Mickey Cochrane, Terry Steinbach

1B: Jimmie Foxx, Jason Giambi

2B: Jimmie Dykes

3B: Home Run Baker, Eric Chavez

SS: Bert Campaneris, Miguel Tejada

LF: Rickey Henderson

CF: Al Simmons

RF: Reggie Jackson, Bob Johnson

DH: Jose Canseco

SP: Lefty Grove

SP: Catfish Hunter

SP: Vida Blue

SP: Chief Bender

SP: Dave Stewart

RP: Rollie Fingers

RP: Dennis Eckersley

RP: Eddie Plank

RP: Rube Waddell

RP: Bob Welch

RP: Jack Coombs

Devil Rays

C : Toby Hall, John Flaherty

1B: Steve Cox

2B: Miguel Cairo

3B: Damian Rolls

SS: Julio Lugo

LF: Aubrey Huff, Bubba Trammell, Gerald Williams

CF: Randy Winn, Rocco Baldelli

RF: Ben Grieve

DH: Toby Hall, Carl Crawford

SP: Rolando Arrojo

SP: Wilson Ãlvarez

SP: Bryan Rekar

SP: Victor Zambrano

SP: Jim Mecir

RP: Albie Lopez

RP: Lance Carter

RP: Esteban Yan

RP: Travis Harper

RP: Rick White

Negro Leagues Stars

C : Josh Gibson, Biz Mackey

1B: Buck Leonard, Mule Suttles, Ben Taylor

2B: Newt Allen, Leon Day

SS: John Henry Lloyd, Willie Wells

3B: Ray Dandridge, Judy Johnson

LF: Cool Papa Bell, Monte Irvin

CF: Oscar Charleston, Turkey Stearnes

RF: Martin Dihigo

SP: Satchel Paige

SP: Willie Foster

SP: Joe "Bullet" Rogan

SP: Rube Foster

SP: Smoky Joe Williams

RP: Hilton Smith

RP: Dave Brown

RP: Dick Redding

RP: John Donaldson

Thanks everyone :hail:

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READY.... or something like that... :mrgreen:

All Timers:

REDS (Cincinnatti)

-Batters

Johnny Bench

Ernie Lombardi

Ted Kluszewski

Dan Driessen

Sean Casey

Joe Morgan

Barry Larkin

David Concepcion

Pete Rose

Tony Perez

George Foster

Vada Pinson

Eric Davis

Ken Griffey Sr.

Wally Post

-Pitchers

Dolf Luque

Eppa Rixey

Bucky Walters

Bob Purkey

Jim Maloney

Clay Carroll

Rob Dibble

Danny Graves

Jose Rijo

Pedro Borbon

Tell me your opinions.

Thanks a lot,

JP

have you bumped your head?

Sean Casey?

Danny Graves?

Wally post, Wally was a .266 hitter and not that great of a fielder

here Lineup

CF Edd Roush

2B Joe Morgan

RF Frank Robinson

C Johnny Bench

1B Tony Perez

LF Pete Rose

SS Barry Larkin

3B Heinie Groh

Bench

C Ernie Lombardi

1B Ted Kluszewski

SS Dave Concepcion

LF George Foster

CF Vada Pinson

CF Gus Bell

Starting rotation

Bucky Walters

Eppa Rixey

Johnny Vander Meer

Paul Derringer

Pete Donohue

Bullpen

Gary Nolan

Jim Maloney

Jose Rijo

Dolf Luque

Joe Nuxhall

Noodles Hahn

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ALL TIMERS UPDATE (please tell me corrections) :help:

Reds

C : Johnny Bench, Ernie Lombardi

1B: Ted Kluszewski, Dan Driessen, Sean Casey

2B: Joe Morgan

SS: Barry Larkin, David Concepcion

3B: Pete Rose, Tony Perez

LF: George Foster, Vada Pinson

CF: Eric Davis

RF: Ken Griffey Sr., Wally Post

SP: Dolf Luque

SP: Eppa Rixey

SP: Bucky Walters

SP: Bob Purkey

SP: Jim Maloney

RP: Clay Carroll

RP: Rob Dibble

RP: Danny Graves

RP: Jose Rijo

RP: Pedro Borbon

Thanks everyone :hail:

Perez should be at 1st not 3rd

he was horrible at 3rd and he played 1000 more games at 1st

Casey and Graves should not even be close to this list

I put Gus bell on my list but Ken Griffey Sr was just as good

Rose also should not be a 3rd, he played 1st, 2nd, OF and 3rd. He was worse at 3rd and played more games at all the other positions

how can you not have Frank Robinson on the team, he is a HOFer and he played more games in Cincinnati than in Baltimore (10 seasons VS 6)

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Chad Fox should not be on there at all. Here is my all time team suggestions for the Marlins:

C- Charles Johnson

1B- Jeff Conine

2B- Luis Castillo

3B- Mike Lowell

SS- Alex Gonzalez

LF- Cliff Floyd

CF- Preston Wilson

RF- Gary Sheffield

Bench:

Miguel Cabrera (3B/OF)

Juan Pierre (OF)

Edgar Renteria (SS)

Derrek Lee (1B)

Mike Redmond ( C )

SP- Josh Beckett

SP- AJ Burnett

SP- Ryan Dempster HE SUCKS

SP- Dontrelle Willis

SP- Al Leiter

P- Livan Hernandez

P- Antonio Alfonseca

P- Vladimir Nunez HE SUCKS

P- Braden Looper HE SUCKS

P- Carl Pavano

P- Brad Penny

Fox won his only WS with the Marlins, same with Pudge.

Also, I think I know the Marlins more than you do.

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Ok, thanks to the corrections of everybody.

Sean Casey and Danny Graves was asked by people. I think Danny Graves can be out. But Casey is good. Frank Robinson is in Orioles because I think the people in Baltimore love him too much. He played his best season there, he won a MVP, and also was MVP in WS. And after all, Reds are awesome without him... I prefer equilibrated teams (talked with Fuzz).

Kevin Stocker is out of the D-Rays because Lugo is better. Both played 2 entire seasons... D-Rays All Timers is really hard to do, cuz they don't have real stars... even nice players in some pos.

Marlins keep as I said.

In Reds...I'm gonna need a 3B if Perez is 1B and Rose OF.

Thanks :wtg:

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Ok, thanks to the corrections of everybody.

Sean Casey and Danny Graves was asked by people. I think Danny Graves can be out. But Casey is good. Frank Robinson is in Orioles because I think the people in Baltimore love him too much. He played his best season there, he won a MVP, and also was MVP in WS. And after all, Reds are awesome without him... I prefer equilibrated teams (talked with Fuzz).

Kevin Stocker is out of the D-Rays because Lugo is better. Both played 2 entire seasons... D-Rays All Timers is really hard to do, cuz they don't have real stars... even nice players in some pos.

Marlins keep as I said.

In Reds...I'm gonna need a 3B if Perez is 1B and Rose OF.

Thanks :wtg:

How about Aaron Boone for Reds 3B.

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Yes, but did they win a WS with anyother team?

No, they didn't

Thats what makes them so special to the team

It apparently does not register with you (surprise, surprise), that just because you win a WS with a team, doesn't mean they should be on the all time team, Pudge and Fox were on the Marlins for about a combined 1 1/2 years. How does that make them as one of the all time greatest Marlins. To be on an all-time team, you should have at least 6 years of playing with that team (except for expansion teams from 1993-present, where you could probably put someone on an all-time team who had 3-4 years of service time with that team.)

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Krawhitham said:

Perez should be at 1st not 3rd he was horrible at 3rd and he played 1000 more games at 1st.

- Ok, he's gonna be at 1st (should Kluswesky go to bench?), but I will need a 3B.

and for the Reds he played 760 games at 3rd and 1092 at 1B.

Krawhitham said:

Casey and Graves should not even be close to this list.

-Ok, Casey and Graves go.

Krawhitham said:

Rose also should not be a 3rd, he played 1st, 2nd, OF and 3rd. He was worse at 3rd and played more games at all the other positions.

-Well, same that Perez. We need a 3B. Rose played for the Reds 1264 games in OF, 629 at 3rd, 627 at 2nd and 197 at 1st.

Krawhitham said:

how can you not have Frank Robinson on the team, he is a HOFer and he played more games in Cincinnati than in Baltimore (10 seasons VS 6)

-Don't worry, he is in Baltimore, where he has his best season, won a MVP, MVP in WS and broke some records.

Please everybody, when you correct me try to put your lineup and give the reasons, like cubsfaninfla does (sometimes we're disagree, but he's really helpful)

Thanks

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Milwaukee Brewers All-Time Roster

STARTING LINEUP

C: B.J. Surhoff

1B: Cecil Cooper

2B: Jim Gantner

SS: Robin Yount

3B: Paul Molitor

RF: Jeromy Burnitz

CF: Gorman Thomas

LF: Greg Vaughn

BENCH PLAYERS

C: Charlie Moore

IF: Jeff Cirillo

IF: Jose Valentin

OF: Ben Ogilvie

OF: Geoff Jenkins

STARTING ROTATION

SP1: Mike Caldwell

SP2: Teddy Higuera

SP3: Jim Slaton

SP4: Ben Sheets

SP5: Bill Wegman

BULLPEN

LR: Moose Hass

LR: Cal Eldred

MR: Jerry Augustine

MR: Bob McClure

MR: Chuck Crim

SU: Dan Plesac

CL: Rollie Fingers

Ted Simmons should be a catcher and Moore could go in the outfield. I would add Tommy Harper to the OF instead. Don Money could be the 1b/3b backup. Pete Vuckovich has to be one the five starters in my book (boot Wegman). Start Hass and RP Slation. Sixto Lezcano could easily be in the OF too. Alot of various RP could use Ken Sanders the ones above- etc.

Don

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i have a book on this subject bought it for this reason but never had the time to do it. if you have any questions like help to fill out a roster let me know because it gives a bunch of lineups for each team like all-time lineup-homegrown-lineup-all bust-lineup.

just let me know

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i have a book on this subject bought it for this reason but never had the time to do it. if you have any questions like help to fill out a roster let me know because it gives a bunch of lineups for each team like all-time lineup-homegrown-lineup-all bust-lineup.

just let me know

Ok. Put your lineups here.
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Guys,

Quick question.

What stats are we using for certain players that had better seasons away from the club that they are on for the ALL-TIME roster.

For example,

Ken Caminiti - His best year was clearly 1996 with the padres, but he ends up on the Astros b/c of playing time with that club. What stats are you going to use? the 1996 stats or his best season with the Astros?

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Guys,

Quick question.

What stats are we using for certain players that had better seasons away from the club that they are on for the ALL-TIME roster.

For example,

Ken Caminiti - His best year was clearly 1996 with the padres, but he ends up on the Astros b/c of playing time with that club. What stats are you going to use? the 1996 stats or his best season with the Astros?

Well, maybe jp will let that slide, even though he was only on the Padres for 4 years.

And if they had better stats, it really all depends on how much time they spent with that team. If they only spent 1-2 years with that team, it doesn't count.

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Well, "the thing" is the next:

First of all I want to created equlibrated teams, that's the reason why McGwire is in Cards, Frank Robinson in O's... Caminiti on Padres.

Many players has had his best season in a team which he is not an all timer (i.e. Joe Shoeless Jackson). And of course the stats which goes is that one he played in the team where he is an AT.

By the way, the three best seasons for Caminiti were in The Padres... that's all.

Are we agree?

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ALL TIMER ROSTER FOR THE REDS

C : Johnny Bench, Ernie Lombardi

1B: Tony Perez (also 3B), Ted Kluszewski, Dan Driessen

2B: Joe Morgan

SS: Barry Larkin, David Concepcion

3B: Pete Rose (also LF)

LF: George Foster, Vada Pinson

CF: Eric Davis, Edd Roush

RF: Ken Griffey Sr.

SP: Dolf Luque

SP: Eppa Rixey

SP: Bucky Walters

SP: Bob Purkey

SP: Jim Maloney

SP: Johnny Vander Meer

SP: Paul Derringer

RP: Clay Carroll

RP: Rob Dibble

RP: Jose Rijo

RP: Pedro Borbon

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Well, I might as well do the Jays...

Toronto Blue Jays All-Time Roster

STARTING LINEUP

C: Ernie Whitt

1B: Carlos Delgado

2B: Roberto Alomar

SS: Tony Fernandez

3B: Rance Mulliniks

RF: Jesse Barfield

CF: Llyod Moesby

LF: Joe Carter

DH: George Bell

BENCH PLAYERS

C: Pat Borders

2B: Damaso Garcia

1B: Willie Upshaw

CF: Devon White

3B: Garth Iorg

STARTING ROTATION

SP1: Dave Steib

SP2: Jimmy Key

SP3: Jim Clancy

SP4: Pat Hentgen

SP5: Roy Halladay

BULLPEN

LR: Juan Guzman

LR: Kelvim Escobar

MR: Mark Eichorn

MR: Paul Quantrill

SU: Duane Ward

CL: Tom "The Terminator" Henke

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Well everybody... anything to declare about this???

I made all corrections trying to not overlap your oppinions and trying to be according with mayority.

Braves

C : Javy López, Joe Torre

1B: Joe Adcock, Fred McGriff, Fred Tenney

2B: Bobby Lowe

SS: Rabbit Maranville, Herman Long

3B: Eddie Mathews, Chipper Jones

LF: Hugh Duffy, Wally Berger

CF: Dale Murphy, Andruw Jones

RF: Hank Aaron

SP: Warren Spahn

SP: Greg Maddux

SP: Phil Niekro

SP: Tom Glavine

SP: Johnny Sain

SP: Kid Nichols

SP: Lew Burdette

RP: John Smoltz

RP: Rick Camp

RP: Gene Garber

Mets

C : Todd Hundley

1B: Keith Hernandez, Ed Kranepool

2B: Edgardo Alfonzo, Wally Backman

SS: Bud Harrelson

3B: Howard Johnson

LF: Rusty Staub, Cleon Jones, Kevin McReynolds

CF: Mookie Wilson, Tommy Agee

RF: Darryl Strawberry, Lee Mazzilli

SP: Tom Seaver

SP: Dwight Gooden

SP: David Cone

SP: Al Leiter

SP: Sid Fernandez

SP: Bobby Ojeda

RP: Jesse Orosco

RP: Roger McDowell

RP: Armando Benítez

RP: John Franco

RP: Ron Darling

Expos/Nationals

C : Gary Carter

1B: Ron Fairly

2B: Jose Vidro, Delino DeShields

SS: Wil Cordero

3B: Larry Parrish, Tim Wallach, Bob Bailey

LF: Tim Raines, Marquis Grissom, Warren Cromartie

CF: Andre Dawson, Rondell White

RF: Vladimir Guerrero, Ellis Valentine

SP: Bryn Smith

SP: Steve Rogers

SP: Bill Gullickson

SP: Dennis Martinez

RP: Jeff Reardon

RP: Ugueth Urbina

RP: Mike Marshall

RP: Mel Rojas

RP: Tim Burke

RP: Woodie Fryman

Phillies

C : Bob Boone, Darren Daulton, Mike Lieberthal

1B: Dick Allen, Ed Delahanty

2B: Juan Samuel, Cookie Rojas

SS: Larry Bowa

3B: Mike Schmidt, Scott Rolen

LF: Billy Hamilton, Del Ennis, Bobby Abreu

CF: Cy Williams, Richie Ashburn

RF: Sam Thompson, Chuck Klein

SP: Steve Carlton

SP: Pete Alexander

SP: Robin Roberts

SP: Curt Schilling

RP: Tug McGraw

RP: Ron Reed

RP: Jim Konstanty

RP: Steve Bedrosian

Marlins

C : Charles Johnson, Mike Redmond

1B: Derrek Lee

2B: Luis Castillo

SS: Edgar Renteria, Alex Gonzalez

3B: Mike Lowell

LF: Cliff Floyd, Jeff Conine, Miguel Cabrera

CF: Preston Wilson, Chuck Carr, Juan Pierre

RF: Gary Sheffield, Mark Kotsay

SP: Livan Hernadez

SP: Josh Beckett

SP: Ryan Dempster

SP: Pat Rapp

SP: Alex Fernandez

SP: A.J. Burnett

RP: Braden Looper

RP: Bryan Harvey

RP: Antonio Alfonseca

RP: Robb Nen

Pirates

C : Tony Peña, Jason Kendall

1B: Willie Stargell, Jake Beckley

2B: Bill Mazeroski

SS: Honus Wagner, Arky Vaughan

3B: Pie Traynor

LF: Ralph Kiner, Fred Clarke, Brian Giles

CF: Max Carey, Lloyd Waner

RF: Roberto Clemente, Paul Waner, Dave Parker

SP: Wilbur Cooper

SP: Sam Leever

SP: Deacon Phillippe

SP: John Candelaria

SP: Vern Law

SP: Babe Adams

RP: Roy Face

RP: Kent Tekulve

RP: Dave Giusti

Colt's 45/Astros

C : Alan Ashby

1B: Jeff Bagwell, Bob Watson, Glenn Davis

2B: Craig Biggio, Bill Doran

SS: Dickie Thon

3B: Enos Cabell

LF: Jose Cruz, Richard Hidalgo, Terry Puhl

CF: Moises Alou, Cesar Cedeno, Jimmy Wynn

RF: Lance Berkman, Kevin Bass, Derek Bell

SP: J.R. Richard

SP: Mike Scott

SP: Joe Niekro

SP: Dave Smith

SP: Mike Hampton

SP: Larry Dierker

RP: Joe Sambito

RP: Billy Wagner

Reds

C : Johnny Bench, Ernie Lombardi

1B: Tony Perez (3B), Ted Kluszewski, Dan Driessen

2B: Joe Morgan

SS: Barry Larkin, David Concepcion

3B: Pete Rose (OF)

LF: George Foster, Vada Pinson

CF: Eric Davis, Edd Roush

RF: Ken Griffey Sr.

SP: Dolf Luque

SP: Eppa Rixey

SP: Bucky Walters

SP: Bob Purkey

SP: Jim Maloney

SP: Johnny Vander Meer

SP: Paul Derringer

RP: Clay Carroll

RP: Rob Dibble

RP: Jose Rijo

RP: Pedro Borbon

Cardinals

C : Ted Simmons, Tim McCarver

1B: Mark McGwire, Albert Pujols

2B: Rogers Hornsby, Frankie Frisch

SS: Ozzie Smith

3B: Ken Boyer

LF: Stan Musial, Lou Brock, Vince Coleman, Jesse Burkett

CF: Willie McGee, Tip O´Neill, Jim Edmonds

RF: Joe Medwick, Enos Slaughter

SP: Bob Gibson

SP: Dizzy Dean

SP: Mort Cooper

SP: Jesse Haines

RP: Al Brazle

RP: Todd Worrell

RP: Lindy McDaniel

RP: Al Hrabosky

Cubs

C : Gabby Hartnett, Johnny Kling

1B: Cap Anson, Mark Grace, Frank Chance, Phil Cavarretta

2B: Ryne Sandberg, Johnny Evers

SS: Ernie Banks, Joe Tinker

3B: Ron Santo

LF: Billy Williams

CF: Hack Wilson, Hank Sauer

RF: Sammy Sosa, Kiki Cuyler

SP: Mordecai Brown

SP: Fergie Jenkins

SP: Hippo Vaughn

SP: Ed Reulbach

SP: Charlie Root

RP: Bruce Sutter

RP: Rick Sutcliffe

RP: Lee Smith

RP: Randy Myers

Rockies

C: Jeff Reed, Joe Girardi

1B: Todd Helton, Andres Galarraga

2B: Mike Lansing, Eric Young

SS: Neifi Perez, Walt Weiss, Juan Uribe

3B: Vinny Castilla, Terry Shumpert

LF: Dante Bichette, John Vander Wal

CF: Ellis Burks

RF: Larry Walker, Jay Payton

SP: Pedro Astacio

SP: Jason Jennings

SP: Curtis Leskanic

SP: Jerry Dipoto

SP: Kevin Ritz

RP: Steve Reed

RP: Jose Jimenez

RP: Darren Holmes

RP: Bruce Ruffin

Diamondbacks

C : Damian Miller

1B: Erubiel Durazo, Travis Lee

2B: Tony Womack, Alex Cintrón

SS: Jay Bell, Junior Spivey

3B: Craig Counsell, David Delucci

LF: Luis Gonzalez

CF: Steve Finley, Quinton McCracken

RF: Danny Bautista, Kelly Stinett

SP: Randy Johnson

SP: Brian Anderson

SP: Omar Daal

SP: Miguel Batista

SP: Armando Reynoso

RP: Greg Olson

RP: Greg Swindell

RP: Mike Morgan

RP: Mike Myers

RP: Byung-Hyun Kim

RP: Matt Mantei

Padres

C : Benito Santiago, Terry Kennedy, Fred Kendall

1B: Ryan Klesko, Nate Colbert

2B: Bip Roberts, Quilvio Veras

SS: Garry Templeton

3B: Ken Caminiti, Phil Nevin

LF: Gene Richards

CF: Dave Winfield

RF: Tony Gwynn, Alan Wiggins

SP: Randy Jones

SP: Andy Benes

SP: Eric Show

SP: Ed Whitson

SP: Andy Hawkins

RP: Mark Davis

RP: Dave Dravecky

RP: Andy Ashby

RP: Craig Lefferts

RP: Luis DeLeon

RP: Trevor Hoffman

Dodgers

C : Roy Campanella, Mike Piazza

1B: Gil Hodges, Steve Garvey

2B: Jackie Robinson

SS: Maury Wills, Pee Wee Reese

3B: Ron Cey

LF: Zack Wheat, Pedro Guerrero

CF: Duke Snider, Willie Davis

RF: Babe Herman, Carl Furillo, Raul Mondesi

SP: Sandy Koufax

SP: Fernando Valenzuela

SP: Burleigh Grimes

SP: Orel Hershiser

SP: Don Drysdale

SP: Dazzy Vance

SP: Don Newcombe

RP: Ron Perranoski

RP: Jim Brewer

RP: Eric Gagne

Giants

C : Buck Ewing, Chief Meyers

1B: Johnny Mize, Willie McCovey, Bill Terry, Orlando Cepeda

2B: Jeff Kent

SS: Travis Jackson, Rich Aurilia

3B: Matt Williams, Freddy Lindstrom

LF: Barry Bonds

CF: Willie Mays, Bobby Bonds

RF: Mel Ott

SP: Christy Mathewson

SP: Carl Hubbell

SP: Juan Marichal

SP: Tim Keefe

SP: Gaylord Perry

RP: Rube Marquard

RP: Rod Beck

RP: Joe McGinnity

RP: Gary Lavelle

RP: Greg Minton

Yankees

C : Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey

1B: Lou Gehrig, Don Mattingly, Tino Martínez

2B: Tony Lazzeri, Joe Gordon

SS: Derek Jeter, Phil Rizzuto

3B: Graig Nettles

LF: Joe DiMaggio

CF: Mickey Mantle, Bernie Williams

RF: Babe Ruth, Paul O'Neill

DH: Roger Maris

SP: Whitey Ford

SP: Lefty Gomez

SP: Ron Guidry

SP: Waite Hoyt

SP: Red Ruffing

RP: Sparky Lyle

RP: Dave Righetti

RP: Goose Gossage

RP: Mariano Rivera

Red Sox

C : Carlton Fisk, Jason Varitek

1B: George Scott, Mo Vaughn

2B: Bobby Doerr, Joe Cronin

SS: Nomar Garciaparra, Rico Petrocelli

3B: Wade Boggs, Jimmy Collins

LF: Ted Williams, Jim Rice, Mike Greenwell

CF: Fred Lynn

RF: Dwight Evans

DH: Carl Yastrzemski

SP: Cy Young

SP: Roger Clemens

SP: Pedro Martinez

SP: Smokey Joe Wood

RP: Dick Radatz

RP: Derek Lowe

RP: Ellis Kinder

RP: Tim Wakefield

RP: Mel Parnell

Tigers

C : Bill Freehan, Lance Parrish

1B: Hank Greenberg, Norm Cash, Rudy York

2B: Charlie Gehringer, Lou Whitaker

SS: Alan Trammell

3B: George Kell, Travis Fryman

LF: Al Kaline, Willie Horton

CF: Ty Cobb

RF: Sam Crawford, Bobby Higginson

DH: Harry Heilmann, Cecil Fielder

SP: Hal Newhouser

SP: Tommy Bridges

SP: Denny McLain

SP: Jack Morris

SP: Dizzy Trout

RP: John Hiller

RP: Willie Hernandez

RP: Mike Henneman

Orioles

C : Chris Hoiles, Wil Robinson

1B: George Sisler, Dan Brouthers

2B: Marty McManus

3B: Brooks Robinson, John McGraw

SS: Cal Ripken Jr., Hughie Jennings

LF: Willie Keeler, Ken Williams

CF: Brady Anderson

RF: Frank Robinson

DH: Eddie Murray, John Boog Powell

SP: Jim Palmer

SP: Mike Cuellar

SP: Mike Mussina

SP: Dave McNally

SP: Urban Shocker

RP: Tippy Martinez

RP: Greg Olson

RP: Mike Flanagan

RP: Scott McGregor

RP: Mike Boddicker

Blues Jays

C : Ernie Whitt, Darrin Fletcher

1B: John Olerud

2B: Roberto Alomar, Damaso Garcia

SS: Tony Fernandez

3B: Kelly Gruber

LF: George Bell, Joe Carter, Jose Cruz Jr.

CF: Lloyd Moseby, Devon White, Shannon Stewart

RF: Jesse Barfield, Shawn Green

DH: Carlos Delgado

SP: Dave Stieb

SP: David Wells

SP: Juan Guzman

SP: Roy Halladay

RP: Mark Eichhorn

RP: Tom Henke

RP: Pat Hentgen

RP: Duane Ward

RP: Billy Koch

Indians

C : Sandy Alomar Jr., Ray Fosse

1B: Jim Thome, Hal Trosky

2B: Nap Lajoie, Bobby Avila

SS: Omar Vizquel

3B: Al Rosen, Ken Keltner

LF: Kenny Lofton

CF: Tris Speaker

RF: Manny Ramirez, Earl Averill

DH: Albert Belle, Rocky Colavito

SP: Bob Feller

SP: Early Wynn

SP: Addie Joss

SP: Bob Lemon

SP: Bartolo Colon

RP: Sam McDowell

RP: Luis Tiant

RP: Jose Mesa

RP: Doug Jones

RP: Bob Wickman

White Sox

C : Ray Schalk, Sherm Lollar

1B: Frank Thomas

2B: Eddie Collins, Nellie Fox, Ray Durham

3B: Robin Ventura, Buck Weaver

SS: Luis Aparicio, Luke Appling

LF: Joe Jackson, Minnie Minoso

CF: Lance Johnson

RF: Magglio Ordonez

DH: Harold Baines

SP: Ed Walsh

SP: Billy Pierce

SP: Ted Lyons

SP: Eddie Cicotte

SP: Jack McDowell

RP: Hoyt Wilhelm

RP: Bobby Thigpen

RP: Red Faber

RP: Wilbur Wood

RP: Roberto Hernandez

Senators/Twins

C : Earl Battey, Brian Harper

1B: Harmon Killebrew

2B: Rod Carew, Chuck Knoblauch

3B: Gary Gaetti

SS: Cecil Travis, Zoilo Versalles

LF: Goose Goslin

CF: Kirby Puckett, Clyde Milan, Torii Hunter

RF: Sam Rice, Roy Sievers

DH: Tony Oliva, Kent Hrbek

SP: Walter Johnson

SP: Bert Blyleven

SP: Jim Kaat

SP: Jim Perry

SP: Frank Viola

RP: Firpo Marberry

RP: Al Worthington

RP: Eddie Guardado

RP: Rick Aguilera

Royals

C : Mike MacFarlane, John Wathan

1B: Mike Sweeney, John Mayberry

2B: Frank White

3B: George Brett

SS: Freddie Patek, U.L. Washington

LF: Willie Wilson, Johnny Damon

CF: Amos Otis, Carlos Beltran

RF: Jermaine Dye, Tom Goodwin, Danny Tartabull

DH: Hal McRae

SP: Dennis Leonard

SP: Bret Saberhagen

SP: Larry Gura

SP: Kevin Appier

SP: Paul Splittorff

SP: Mark Gubicza

RP: Dan Quisenberry

RP: Jeff Montgomery

RP: Tom Gordon

Pilots/Brewers

C : B.J. Surhoff, Dave Nilsson, Charlie Moore

1B: Cecil Cooper, Richie Sexson

2B: Jim Gantner, Don Money

3B: Jeff Cirillo

SS: Robin Yount

LF: Jeromy Burnitz, Greg Vaughn, Geoff Jenkins

CF: Gorman Thomas, Darryl Hamilton

RF: Ben Oglivie, Sixto Lezcano

DH: Paul Molitor

SP: Teddy Higuera

SP: Jim Slaton

SP: Mike Caldwell

SP: Moose Haas

SP: Cal Eldred

RP: Pete Vuckovich

RP: Dan Plesac

RP: Mike Fetters

Mariners

C : Dan Wilson, Dave Valle

1B: Alvin Davis, Dan Meyer

2B: Harold Reynolds, Julio Cruz, Bret Boone

3B: Jim Presley

SS: Alex Rodriguez

LF: Phil Bradley, Bruce Bochte

CF: Ken Griffey Jr.

RF: Ichiro, Jay Buhner

DH: Edgar Martinez

SP: Jamie Moyer

SP: Freddy Garcia

SP: Erik Hanson

SP: Paul Abbott

RP: Kazahiro Sasaki

RP: Jeff Nelson

RP: Norm Charlton

RP: Edwin Nunez

RP: Bobby Ayala

RP: Mike Schooler

Angels

C : Buck Rodgers, Bengie Molina

1B: Wally Joyner

2B: Bobby Grich, Sandy Alomar Sr.

3B: Doug DeCinces, Troy Glaus

SS: Jim Fregosi

LF: Brian Downing

CF: Darin Erstad

RF: Garret Anderson, Tim Salmon

DH: Don Baylor, Chili Davis

SP: Nolan Ryan

SP: Frank Tanana

SP: Dean Chance

SP: Mark Langston

SP: Chuck Finley

RP: Francisco Rodriguez

RP: Donnie Moore

RP: Troy Percival

RP: Mike Witt

RP: Jim Abbott

Senators/Rangers

C : Ivan Rodriguez, Jim Sundberg

1B: Rafael Palmeiro, Pete O'Brien

2B: Julio Franco

3B: Buddy Bell, Dean Palmer

SS: Michael Young, Toby Harrah

LF: Rusty Greer, Frank Howard

CF: Ruben Sierra, Mickey Rivers

RF: Juan Gonzalez

DH: Jeff Burroughs

SP: Charlie Hough

SP: Kenny Rogers

SP: Kevin Brown

SP: Rick Helling

SP: Dick Bosman

RP: Danny Darwin

RP: John Wetteland

RP: Jeff Russell

RP: Ron Kline

RP: Darold Knowles

Athletics

C : Mickey Cochrane, Terry Steinbach

1B: Jimmie Foxx, Jason Giambi

2B: Jimmie Dykes

3B: Home Run Baker, Eric Chavez

SS: Bert Campaneris, Miguel Tejada

LF: Rickey Henderson

CF: Al Simmons

RF: Reggie Jackson, Bob Johnson

DH: Jose Canseco

SP: Lefty Grove

SP: Catfish Hunter

SP: Vida Blue

SP: Chief Bender

SP: Dave Stewart

RP: Rollie Fingers

RP: Dennis Eckersley

RP: Eddie Plank

RP: Rube Waddell

RP: Bob Welch

RP: Jack Coombs

Devil Rays

C : Toby Hall, John Flaherty

1B: Steve Cox

2B: Miguel Cairo

3B: Damian Rolls

SS: Julio Lugo, Kevin Stocker

LF: Aubrey Huff, Bubba Trammell, Gerald Williams

CF: Randy Winn, Rocco Baldelli

RF: Ben Grieve

DH: Toby Hall, Carl Crawford

SP: Rolando Arrojo

SP: Wilson Ãlvarez

SP: Bryan Rekar

SP: Victor Zambrano

SP: Jim Mecir

RP: Albie Lopez

RP: Lance Carter

RP: Esteban Yan

RP: Travis Harper

RP: Rick White

Negro Leagues Stars

C : Josh Gibson, Biz Mackey

1B: Buck Leonard, Mule Suttles, Ben Taylor

2B: Newt Allen, Leon Day

SS: Pop Lloyd, Willie Wells

3B: Ray Dandridge, Judy Johnson

LF: Cool Papa Bell, Monte Irvin

CF: Oscar Charleston, Turkey Stearnes

RF: Martin Dihigo (IF)

SP: Satchel Paige

SP: Willie Foster

SP: Bullet Rogan

SP: Rube Foster

SP: Smokey Joe Williams

RP: Hilton Smith

RP: Dave Brown

RP: Dick Redding

RP: John Donaldson

I hope you like this one.

Thanks for your help. :hail:

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