jpup Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 CHECK THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 1 FOR UPDATED SLIDERS FOR PATCH 2 I have been working on getting the best sliders to use with Rod's datafile. Here are my "pre-patch" sliders. Any discussion is welcome. For those of you interested.... All-Star Level (Chuk's btp cam, Trues' batting cam, Rod's datafile) Pitch Speed -10 User Pitch Fatigue 0 CPU Pitch Fatigue 40 User Batting Contact 15 CPU Batting Contact -25 User Batting Power 20 CPU Batting Power 20 User Bunting Ability 20 CPU Bunting Ability 20 User OF Speed 15 CPU OF Speed -10 User IF Speed -2 CPU IF Speed -10 User Baserunning Speed -2 CPU Baserunning Speed -5 User Throw Speed -1 CPU Throw Speed -10 User Throw Accuracy 0 CPU Throw Accuracy -30 User Runner Aggression 10 Steal Rate 0 CPU Catch Errors 10 User Runner Steal Speed 10 CPU Runner Steal Speed 10 User Runner Steal Delay 10 CPU Runner Steal Delay 10 Bullpen Fatigue Rate 5 Bullpen Fatigue Grace 10 *If a setting is not listed, the value is 0. **Thanks to Trues for his combined datafile. ***some credit goes to Rodkey and Pared for a partial base to begin from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Owl Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Is Trues datafile available for download? I took a look for it in the Downloads section here and on highheat2004.net but didn't see it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snepp Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 http://www.mvpmods.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=151#151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Owl Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 :D ahhh....thank you very much snepp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted April 27, 2004 Author Share Posted April 27, 2004 ahhh....thank you very much snepp! has anyone tried out my sliders? what do you think of them? feedback would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miked Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 jpup, I will try your sliders and let you know. The big thing with me is i want to see cpu steals . You stated your steal slider at 0 gives a good amount. I had heard that rod's V3 he had lowered the stealing and it was noticeable . I will let you know. You get a good amount ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim825 Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I've been using your sliders and I like them. I've had mostly low scoring games in All-Star mode (1-0, 4-1, 3-1, etc.), some I've won and some I've lost. There do seem to be fewer steals using Rod's v3 datafile than when I was using chuk's datafile. I've only seen one steal (a steal of 3rd base by Pokey Reese of Boston). I haven't hit any homeruns in All Star mode yet with these, so to make sure that the slider settings weren't too low, I tried using them in a game in Pro mode (Yankees vs. Philadelphia, Vasquez vs. Millwood). As the Yankees I hit 4 HRs in that game (2 by Jeter, one by Sheffield and one by Vasquez!). I had never hit more than two in a game before, so perhaps my timing is getting better in Pro and I just need to be more patient in All-Star). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miked Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 jim825, Did you try to increse the steal slider from 0 to +50 ? Hopefuly, that will make a difference ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim825 Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 miked - I haven't tried that yet. I'll have to do that and see if it makes a difference the next time I play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted April 27, 2004 Author Share Posted April 27, 2004 thanks for the responses. i seem to have several steal attempts using these sliders w/ trues datafile. i have used them with several different teams and have plenty of steals with each. remember, if you see more than 2 or 3 steals a game, then it starts getting unrealistic... i just went in and tested the sliders on exhibition again. reds v marlins i hit pierre, got an o-1 count on castillo, and peirre tried to steal second. i threw him out. i walked castillo. second pitch and castillo stole second. on a 2-2 pitch, castillo tried to steal third. remember that you have to go deeper in the count sometimes for them to steal. don't throw strikes all the time. i will test more later using other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miked Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 jpup, pierre steals on the console version which has a legimate bug.it's the other teams/lower rated players that should be moving. Depending on the game more than 2 or 3 steals is realistic. Will still try ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted May 4, 2004 Author Share Posted May 4, 2004 just want to let you guys know that I will be updating these sliders very soon due to Rod's v4 and the 2nd patch. how are the games going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim825 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 So far so good. I've continued to use the sliders and really like them. I used them last night after installing the new patch and RRod'd v4 datafile and had a really close game (Yanks lost to the Royals 2-0, 7 hits for KC, 4 hits for NY). It took a little while to get used to the pitching meter changes in the v4 datafile (the green zone is smaller), and I had my chances to score (men on 1st and 3rd with 1 out), but just couldn't get the job done. I had increased the CPU steal slider up to 20 recently, and last night KC stole two bases. I'm looking forward to to hearing about any modifications you make to your sliders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 yeah i'd like some new slider suggestions too. since the new patch seems to have almost made the game an arcade version, ichiro three HR's in his first game, he's good but.... slightly off topic but is there a way to have the camera angle of roddata3 in the roddata4 file? i like the 4 file but really prefer the camera angle of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 I have received several e-mails regarding sliders. Here are the sliders that I am currently using with Roddata 4. Patch 2 Installed Datafile: Trues-Roddata 4 Pitch 5 Bat 3 All-Star Level Visual Aids are user preference Roster: Jpup's TotalMinors Plus/Gforce22's TotalMinors V.3 All categories that are not posted should be set to zero (0). Pitch Speed -5 CPU Pitcher Fatigue +40 User Batting Contact +15 CPU Batting Contact -20 User Batting Power +30 CPU Batting Power +20 User Bunting Ability +20 CPU Bunting Ability +20 User OF Speed +15 CPU OF Speed -15 User IF Speed -4 CPU IF Speed -10 User Baserunning Speed -2 CPU Baserunning Speed -5 User Throw Speed -1 CPU Throw Speed -10 CPU Throw Accuracy -30 User Runner Aggression +10 CPU Catch Errors +10 User Runner Steal Speed +10 CPU Runner Steal Speed +10 User Runner Steal Delay +10 CPU Runner Steal Delay +10 Bullpen Fatigue Rate +5 Bullpen Fatigue Grace +10 Remember that all categories that are not listed should be set to 0. Please try out these sliders and give me some feedback so that they can be adjusted and tested. If you have something that should be included in these, please let me know and we will all try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake eyez Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Thank you for updating these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aodaniel Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 jpup, are you seeing acceptable stamina changes with the starters? With fatigue at +30 the starters for me seemed to be gassed and giving up a bunch of dingers by the 4th inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 jpup, are you seeing acceptable stamina changes with the starters? With fatigue at +30 the starters for me seemed to be gassed and giving up a bunch of dingers by the 4th inning. yeah, it seems ok. i am still have a very hard time getting the cpu to throw enough pitches on all-star level. Here are my last 5 games w/ these sliders. 6-4, 3-2, 2-1, 8-1, 9-8. these are not perfect by any means. the pitch speed, power, and contact are still not just right. i have played a couple with cpu power up another five and it seems they hit too many homers. i'll keep working on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 yeah, it seems ok. i am still have a very hard time getting the cpu to throw enough pitches on all-star level. Here are my last 5 games w/ these sliders. 6-4, 3-2, 2-1, 8-1, 9-8. these are not perfect by any means. the pitch speed, power, and contact are still not just right. i have played a couple with cpu power up another five and it seems they hit too many homers. i'll keep working on them. I actually like these sliders, but again, the only way to play comepletely realistically is to bat on MVP level and pitch on Pro or All-Star. It is a pain to switch between that two every half inning, but I have had some of the best and most realistic games this way, in terms of pitch counts on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted July 9, 2004 Author Share Posted July 9, 2004 how are the games going with these sliders guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake eyez Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 I just finished a 5-2 win, using Cleveland at home vs. Texas. Really enjoyed the game with the sliders and Rod4. One adjustment I'd suggest however is User Pitcher Fatigue.. go negative with it, possibly in the -15 or -10 range. Texas hit a couple solo shots off me, but the offense is far more balanced now, not a slugfest. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 12-7 computer kept throwing mistake pitches into my red zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 You guys know what user Pitch Fatigue and Bullpen grace Fatigue is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo_daddy Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 jpup, do you have any sliders for us wussies still on Pro difficulty? [Might only be me, who knows.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruinsmpt Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 I have used these sliders and Most of my hits are HRs. If I lower the power, will the hrs be reduced to doubles or just pop flies? If I use these sliders in mvp level will the hrs reduce? I would love to have more hits while reducing the hrs. Any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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