kevattac Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I can't tell from the pics, but are they keeping the facade? Teh facade is the most unique and original thing about Yankee Stadium and I hope they bring it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 I can't tell from the pics, but are they keeping the facade? Teh facade is the most unique and original thing about Yankee Stadium and I hope they bring it over. The Frieze is staying. It's just below the light-banks, looks like it's part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Thank you for showing again why you're just a dumb little twerp no one takes seriously. When even the Yankees fans think you're an idiot, you should start listening. You swear despite Y4L telling you not to for months, type words like "reatrder", and post inane, worthless nothings every single time, and you're ragging on me? And where the heck did "hippie" come from? Are you just trying to come up with some sort of pejorative to bolster your case, or do you just admit to being a completely lamebrain? What does that have to do with anything? No argument there. It's horrendously ugly and is an aesthetic abomination. Where did I ever post that i wanted to keep the current Yankee Stadium? It's ugly, very, very, very ugly, and has virtually no positives beyond seating capacity and "aura." However, this current design is almost equally ugly. It doesn't seem to capture any of the beauty of the original Yankee Stadium, the upper deck is ridiculously far from the field, the field layout is boring, the center field view is ugly, and the outer ring / inner ring concept is just.. fake. It has no fundamental design concept, failing to be old Yankee Stadium, or represent the best of the neoclassical school, or even representing a new, revolutionary way to design a baseball park. And even without nailing any of these, it doesn't seem like a nice place to see a baseball game, it seems to be an entity for removing the money from your wallet. It screams corporate without providing any of the beauty it should have. I hate the Yankees, there's no argument there. But I know that the Yankee name used to mean something, and that should have been represented in their home for the 21st century. Instead, they got a bland, pretty much inoffensive structure that has no aesthetic benefits. Honestly, the park it most reminds me of is the proposed Montreal park. And that certainly is no compliment. New Yankee Stadium should've been so much more. The center-field view is bad? What do you want in center-field? They're putting Monument Park in Center, what more do you want out there? And this isn't a final draft. They might still end up changing half of the design. The artwork presented was just "Concept" art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame1 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I am not a yankee fan however if they really want to keep the new stadium unique they build the new stadium but with the 1927 outfield dimentions except they have to make right field current MLB rules least 310' ? They still can keep monunment park in back of centerfield not in play. Keep it big and orginal dimentions except for right fieldt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegz Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Donut, that attack was very uncalled for And I don't like the setup, mostly because the setup is basically the same as the old one which I thought was a little dull, even thought I know it had a history. It still is drawings so I can't gtg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Donut, that attack was very uncalled for And I don't like the setup, mostly because the setup is basically the same as the old one which I thought was a little dull, even thought I know it had a history. It still is drawings so I can't gtg All read this post: That was my bad! I thought he was gonna complain about history and the sacred soil, like thousands of Yankee fans have been so far to the point of pissing me off. Sorry, My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_rich Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I happen to like the whole idea for a New Yankee Stadium. As long as they keep a lot of the original architectural aspects like they plan on doing. Monument Park should be in center field becuse first of all, it's a part of the park not reached very often. More luxury boxes are good, more amenities like more snack stands are good, and I also like the fact that they are keeping the same dimensions like in the original Yankee Stadium. So, Death Valley will be there plus the short porch down the right field line. I wasn't really crazy about the idea, but it's absolutely makes sense. It works! This is gonna be one stadium I can't wait to visit when I go back to NY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYYKing Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 a little dull? who cares? it's the atmosphere that matters, and that is what the Yankees are trying to replicate. Is it really important that they have a unique jumbotron int he outfield? or ridiculous field dimensions with a mound and a flag pole in play? Although a ballpark like PNC Park or SBC Park might look great, nothing tops the Yankee Stadium feel in October. The Monument Park, the frieze, the large crowd atmosphere, the limestone exterior in their own way make the Yankee Stadium unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean O Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Let me put it this way, all of the great parks in the major leagues have a defining architectural feature that make it special. Fenway has the Monster, Camden has the warehouse, SBC has the cove, Wrigley has the ivy, and PNC has the bridge. What is New Yankee Stadium's defining feature? More luxury boxes? As someone who appreciates ballpark architecture large and small, I see it as a total failure of the imagination, and it's a shame they couldn't do something special with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Let me put it this way, all of the great parks in the major leagues have a defining architectural feature that make it special. Fenway has the Monster, Camden has the warehouse, SBC has the cove, Wrigley has the ivy, and PNC has the bridge. What is New Yankee Stadium's defining feature? More luxury boxes? As someone who appreciates ballpark architecture large and small, I see it as a total failure of the imagination, and it's a shame they couldn't do something special with it. Dude, this is Yankee Stadium. The name, frieze, Death Valley, the short RF porch ,and the team are the defining feature. They're keeping the outfield dimensions, which are extreme enough in left-center. You seem to be lost. We're rebuilding Yankee Stadium NOT Minute Maid Park or SBC Park. We don't NEED some bullshit crap in the playing field to mess up the stadium or a ferris wheel in dead-center. This ISN'T an amuzement park, it's a Baseball Stadium. You really sound like you DON'T appreciate ballark architecture, you sound like you appreciate all the bells and whistles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_rich Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Yankee Stadium first of all has Death Valley, "The Black", and the facades. For someone who thinks they know about baseball and baseball stadiums, that was a ridiculous statement. It doesn't have to have a retractable roof for it to be a special stadium in this day and age, that's why Fenway, Wrigley, and Chavez Ravine haven't been re-done. Oh btw, you forgot Minute Maid Park with the Train and Miller Park with the slide and Kauffman Stadium with the fountains and the Angel Stadium of Anaheim with the rock formation in left-center field and Petco with the buildings in left, and Shea Stadium with the Big Apple and Tropicana Field that look likes a really bad aquarium and Safeco Field with the trains that pass by. Think before you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_rich Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dude, this is Yankee Stadium. The name, frieze, Death Valley, the short RF porch ,and the team are the defining feature. They're keeping the outfield dimensions, which are extreme enough in left-center. You seem to be lost. We're rebuilding Yankee Stadium NOT Minute Maid Park or SBC Park. We don't NEED some [naughty word] crap in the playing field to mess up the stadium. This ISN'T an amuzement park, it's a Baseball Stadium. Right on, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 The only thing I don't like about the new park is that its going to have like 8,000 less seats. Thats just bad. However, I think its great to try and preserve the tradition from the current stadium. The things that make Yankee Stadium great are its memories and fans not stupid trains and crap like that. Sinec when did SBC and PNC become great parks anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYM Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 hey the Mets have a parking lot and a big scoreboard....cant forget the big black batters eye. now thats a stadium ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCH3900 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 guess this thread will be locked in a few hours, however, if you get back on topic maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 aside from the jackass who posted above you the thread is on topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYYKing Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 it's really difficult to have something that will appeal to everyone. If you make a completely new stadium design, the traditionalists will complain about it. If you make a stadium fairly similar to the current yankee stadium, people will say it is bland. With the Yankees being so deeply driven by tradition, I believe it is only fitting that they're going for a more traditional look for the ballpark. If this stadium was built on the current location, would people still cry about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean O Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 it's really difficult to have something that will appeal to everyone. If you make a completely new stadium design, the traditionalists will complain about it. If you make a stadium fairly similar to the current yankee stadium, people will say it is bland. With the Yankees being so deeply driven by tradition, I believe it is only fitting that they're going for a more traditional look for the ballpark. If this stadium was built on the current location, would people still cry about it? Please explain how it's a traditional look. It has the frieze, and that's about it. I'd love to hear how it remotely follows tradition on the inside, since it seems just like a generic big park from the renderings. Unless you consider copying the 1970s stadium as traditional I guess. This has 0 to do with the original park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYYKing Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 people want to see the familiar field dimensions, the familiar horseshoe design, a monument park in the outfield, the limestone exterior. Yankee stadium was not designed to be unique like Fenway with the Green Monster. It was designed to be a big stadium with some unique features such as the frieze. honestly, what do you want to see? A giant statue of Babe Ruth standing in the outfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_rich Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 people want to see the familiar field dimensions, the familiar horseshoe design, a monument park in the outfield, the limestone exterior. Yankee stadium was not designed to be unique like Fenway with the Green Monster. It was designed to be a big stadium with some unique features such as the frieze. honestly, what do you want to see? A giant statue of Babe Ruth standing in the outfield? I know. Keep in mind, I'm sure there will be more changes. There's still 4 more years until they call this new park home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 people want to see the familiar field dimensions, the familiar horseshoe design, a monument park in the outfield, the limestone exterior. Yankee stadium was not designed to be unique like Fenway with the Green Monster. It was designed to be a big stadium with some unique features such as the frieze. honestly, what do you want to see? A giant statue of Babe Ruth standing in the outfield? You know, I wanted a retractable roof... Also, since this topic has strayed further beyond its true intentions, if it is possible for the Moderators to merge or move this thread with the other yankee stadium topic, please do so. -KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Please explain how it's a traditional look. It has the frieze, and that's about it. I'd love to hear how it remotely follows tradition on the inside, since it seems just like a generic big park from the renderings. Unless you consider copying the 1970s stadium as traditional I guess. This has 0 to do with the original park. Traditional in the sense that the field is almost identical to the current stadium. What makes Wrigley less ugly than Yankee Stadium? The ivy...bfd. Fenway is the only ballpark in teh country that is totally unqiue and thats just because the builders were smoking something pretty hardcore. If you dont like the new idea then dont go to the ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsalsays Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 SO IS ANYONE GOING TO MAKE A MOD OF IT OR WHAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 SO IS ANYONE GOING TO MAKE A MOD OF IT OR WHAT UNFORTUNATELY NO BECAUSE OF THE LIMITS WITHIN THE GAME. MODDERS CANNOT CREATE STADIUMS FROM SCRATCH UNLESS THERE IS A VALID FOUNDATION TO BASE THE STADIUM OFF OF. -KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stix Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 UNFORTUNATELY NO BECAUSE OF THE LIMITS WITHIN THE GAME. MODDERS CANNOT CREATE STADIUMS FROM SCRATCH UNLESS THERE IS A VALID FOUNDATION TO BASE THE STADIUM OFF OF. -KC BUT SINCE IT WILL TAKE AFTER THE OLD YANKEE STADIUM, CAN'T MODDERS CREATE IT OUT OF THAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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