JoltinJoeCarter Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 TribeTime26 said: 95% of the people here who ask questions politely and without calling out the forums and 2 of our respected and helpful members get thier answers in at least a couple of days yea exactly, and a lot of the times within hours of the post. there's nothing wrong with these forums and if u thought that there was, you coulda PM one the admins or something if you had a suggestion. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegz Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Also, riker should have read the thread titled 'Please read this before posting a new topic'! There MarkB posted rule 3... 3. Search the forum to make sure the information you are about to post hasn't been posted already. It's also a good idea to make sure it hasn't been posted recently by having a look through the other threads on the first page of this forum. .... Now I am willing to bet the "How do you load a mbe file?" question has been answered at least 50 times, and thats just this year Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooseknucks Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 NYM91 said: Riker, I've had the same problem too. It shard to find things on the search function no matter how detailed you make it. People are going to be nasty to you some times. If you have a problem with searching try going to an admin or something cause this will start a fight. Lets face it, some people think their above everyone else. :eew: IDEA: Maybe Trues or Y4L, can delete older posts, or filter posts out that havent been answered in ten days or something. That would contribute to frustrated searchers like riker, me and the rest of the people on this board. Trues, Y4L, any chance of this happening? EDIT: O yea and just some commen sense. Don't use smart *** remarks when someone is trying to find something. Wouldn't it just be easier to help the person then to annoy them. People who don't use their brains are the people who dont even know they are starting a confrentation. Why should people attend to other people who are too lazy to do a search. If someone posted this example, it would be different ... A Personable Member Would Have said: Hey I did a search for something I'm not sure about, I manually searched and rifled through the posts that came up and I couldn't find an answer. I was wondering if someone could help me. But that never happens. People think everyone has to tend to them because they don't know how to use the search function. Kids come on here and demand answers and that's why they get the "smartass" remarks, because their rude and demanding. And why are you trying to defend someone? Don't you know you don't have a leg to stand on? Riker: You're in the wrong, no matter what these people say. In the sight of the administration and the "trusted" members, you're wrong. You're trying to rip into this site and find answers? It doesn't work that way buddy. With an attitude like that, you're never going to find or get what you want. Learn some manners and learn to be polite and maybe, just maybe, someone could get past your horrible first impressions. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spivey11 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Here's what I do to help out narrowing down the number of results that I get when I search for a certain topic (just put 'and' in between every word that you want to search for): install and new and mbe. and file. When I did that, I got 28 matches that had those four words together in a topic. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood70 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Interesting topic. I have found this forum to be VERY helpful, but at the saem time, I've seen an unusual amount of hostility towards people who don't search.. That's the part I don't understand. Rather than be hostile, why not just ignore them? If it's against the forum policy, so be it. But why take the time to call someone lazy, or any variation of that? Rather than take it personally, why not just shrug your shoulders and move on to the next post? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snash13 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Riker, flat out. If you had come on here and asked for help politly you probably would have got some help. But not only are you not going to get help now but Im sure people are going to think alot less of you from now on. If you have a problem with something, PM a admin about it Quote People who don't use their brains are the people who dont even know they are starting a confrentation.Now I wonder who that describes..... :roll: Quote No problem. Not my fault you can't use your head. :lmao: Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegz Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Hollywood70 said: Interesting topic. I have found this forum to be VERY helpful, but at the saem time, I've seen an unusual amount of hostility towards people who don't search.. That's the part I don't understand. Rather than be hostile, why not just ignore them? If it's against the forum policy, so be it. But why take the time to call someone lazy, or any variation of that? Rather than take it personally, why not just shrug your shoulders and move on to the next post? That's what we always do until people start calling us out and labeling their topics "WTF is wrong with these forums!!!!" Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 If you learned how to use the search feature CORRECTLY as opposed to simply bashing words into the search field and hoping for the best, I can personally guarantee you that at least 9 times out of 10, if the question has been asked and answered, you will find it using the search function. It's not rocket science, people, it's a server-based search engine that does what it's told. Garbage in, garbage out. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 riker147 said: Not even close. Did you read my WHOLE post? are you selecting the "Search for all terms" option dumbass default is "Search for any terms or use query as entered" which would result in 800 hits Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Let me not get into this...oh hell no. :mad: Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleMo Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 lockity lock lock. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastasports1 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Hollywood70 said: Interesting topic. I have found this forum to be VERY helpful, but at the saem time, I've seen an unusual amount of hostility towards people who don't search.. That's the part I don't understand. Rather than be hostile, why not just ignore them? If it's against the forum policy, so be it. But why take the time to call someone lazy, or any variation of that? Rather than take it personally, why not just shrug your shoulders and move on to the next post? Because if we ignore them, all they will do is keep posting over and over and over, ranting like this, asking why people can't help in these forums, and maybe after a matter of 5 minutes the kids will throw a ****-fit. And when they post over and over, that's spamming, (against the rules) so admins have to lock the topic. Once that happens, another thread is created, more spam shows up, and all these locked topics flood and gag the forum. Finally, that member will reach three strikes with their now-hostile behavior, get banned, create a second account, come back and create a rant like this, and get banned for many more months. So, we can't ignore them. If we just tell them what to do kindly, they'll get used to it and NEVER use the search button again. It's like training a dog. If we are hostile, sometimes we'll bang them into shape, but sometimes they'll create things like this! Admins have it tough here. Nobody can win. That's why we just want to use the search button, use a little effort in searcing manually, or check the FAQs. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
punishher Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 hmm.i'm sorta new,when i started out the search button indeed turned me off.i went to the forums,asked politely and waited for answers. then like abt 2 weeks back i sorta played arnd with the search button and found out that you could easily reduce the number of searches turnin up to be more precise. don't come here and start CYAO.pls. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooseknucks Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 :eek: You're kidding! Precision works?! Since when ... ?! :roll: Jesus. Like my Mark said, it's not rocket science, or brain surgery, or anything else that requires an ounce of effort. The search feature "turns you off"? It doesn't matter, you won't get your answers. Either no one will answer, or someone will say do a search for it. I still can't beleive anyone actually defended this asshole. His break out moment is calling out the board. Stupid people. :wall: Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
punishher Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 i am not defending him. :shrug: i'm saying the search option is possible to use. :lmao: Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegz Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 UncleMo said: lockity lock lock. Why are you using a drawn on KC avatar? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP_Frost Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 try posting on ign's baseball board ( the mvp board there is pretty decent ). Every thread turns into one giant agrument. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I think people simply get tired of answering the same questions over and over again...seriously, how many times has the "I can't get the patch to work" question been asked? 100, 200?? I'll generally answer the question (or link to it), and then suggest that the person try the search feature next time... This can be a very helpful place if your questions are worded properly. Almost all the answers are here in some form. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-160836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood70 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Good points... Personally, my method is to browse the forum every day or two, and then I get a feel for what's been discussed... Makes it easier to search for things if you have a vague memory of seeing them before. As far as forum etiquitte goes, I think it's a lot like the old computer saying.. "Garbage in, Garbage out".. You get back what you put in. Generosity is often returned for kindness. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-161013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastasports1 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Hollywood70 said: Good points... Personally, my method is to browse the forum every day or two, and then I get a feel for what's been discussed... Makes it easier to search for things if you have a vague memory of seeing them before. As far as forum etiquitte goes, I think it's a lot like the old computer saying.. "Garbage in, Garbage out".. You get back what you put in. Generosity is often returned for kindness. Right on with that. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-161020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 spitoon said: I think people simply get tired of answering the same questions over and over again...seriously, how many times has the "I can't get the patch to work" question been asked? 100, 200?? I'll generally answer the question (or link to it), and then suggest that the person try the search feature next time... This can be a very helpful place if your questions are worded properly. Almost all the answers are here in some form. This guy, spitoon, is one of the people on this site I have ultimate respect for. No matter how inane the question, how badly worded, or how many times it has been asked previously, he posts an answer in, I'd guess, 90% of the cases. Spitoon, I salute you. You must have the patience of a saint. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-161031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snash13 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 :salute: I 2nd that post Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-161048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastasports1 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Snash13 said: :salute: I 2nd that post :salute: I...ummm...3rd that post! Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-161055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank363 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Thats what a forum is for to help people get there questions answered ,I too have been looking into this matter. I dont understand why some people get all teedoff by telling someone something to help them out. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-161173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Just remember everyone that if you have questions about a particular mod, the best way to get answers may be to send a PM to the mod creator. The creator will be more inclined to help because he/she wants their work to work. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/13269-problem-with-these-forums/page/2/#findComment-161185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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