Can this be true?- WTC (Please dont come in if easily upset)

[WinnieThaPujols]

Here is the thing: people capitalize on the gullability of others all the time. I could make a documentary on -anything- and at least put forth a somewhat decent argument.

I've seen the video, and at first I was like, "WHAOMG CONSPIRACY." But folks, seriously...

Remember: it's easy to ride the conspiracy bandwagon than it is to ignore something. We're Americans, and we love drama.

[SwinginSoriano]

The WTC was made to withstand attacks by airplanes actually, that's why they had an 'exoskeleton' like structure.

Such a different building ought to collapse differently. But it's much funner to think that the world is out to get us, isn't it?

[NYM]

Well the one thing I still dont get is why the towers came down in an orderly fashion" And what happened to the plane that crasehd in the middle of nowhere? Planes would diminsh in fire, but there was not a thing left. Nothing. Just a big whole. No plane, no luggage, no nothing. I don't get why the government has to hide stuff from us. In fact they would get more resepct from people if they told us what is really going on.

[Sean O]

The towers came down that way because the fire wore down the exoskeleton right where the plane impacted. Once it wore down enough, the pieces of the outside bowed outwards, and eventually snapped like a twig. Once this happened, the rest of the fire-weakened structure gave way roughly at the same time, and the thousands of tons of the building above it went into free fall.

There was nothing structurally wrong more than a couple floors below the impact spot, and so there wasn't any possibility of the structure just breaking off at the bottom into an adjacent building. There's no reason to believe it wouldn't fall straight down into the lower parts of the building, since it was an extraordinary force falling straight down on it.

And, that's what happened. I don't buy the conspiracy theories, and I've heard (and investigated) many of them.

[NYM]

So what do you think of the Pentagon? What about the plan in the middle of nowhere? How do you explain those?

[RBaggio10]

What about the plan in the middle of nowhere?

The plane that crashed in Pennsylvania? It was headed for another landmark but the passengers took the plane back over and attempted to land it but crashed.

[kicko]

I guess you didn't see the movie??? that's what i have heard from reports.

[Cash #25]

Fellas, I live here. People saw the plane hit the Pentagon. There were witnesses. Unless you believe that everyday citizens can be made to lie to the media, and the media (especially the Washington DC media!) would report these lies.

But my biggest question, having wasted time watching that video, is this: where did the real flights go, if they weren't the ones tracked on radar all the way into the buildings they hit? Tractor beam? Perhaps beamed up to a large Romulan bird of prey? Unfortunately, our wise and all knowing narrator has no answer for that.

[krawhitham]

the one to the Pentagon could have been shot down by the US, and a missile hit the building.

the government would never want info that they shot down the plane to come out. Shooting down the plane to save 1000's of lives, but it would still be very bad press

It is odd that camera footage was taken by the FBI within minutes of the Pentagon attack, you would think they would have other things to do.

I have seen interviews from the owners of the gas stations that said they never had a change to look at the footage the FBI took the tapes within minutes. We seen the planes hitting the WCT buildings millions of times, why does the government not want us to see the Pentagon footage?

[krawhitham]

is this a WTC paper or a 9-11 paper NYM06?

[seanzarelli]

The plane that hit the Pentagon, supposedly a Boeing 757 would have left a much bigger hole in the wall than 16 feet in diameter and the cars that it supposedly flew over right above the highway would have probably pushed them off the highway from the force of the engine. And one other thing, the hole in the wall at the Pentagon, why was it right at the surface? If the plane did hit the ground first, you would have seen some major damage to the earth outside of the Pentagon.

[SwinginSoriano]

I remember seeing a picture with a bunch of wrecked cars. Some conspiracy theorist said they were "damaged with crowbars".

I'm not going back into this topic, I'm getting far too disgusted.

[NYM]

I think you mean WTC, and no. It was just on famous monuments in America. It could be past or present. I just stumbled upon it while seaching for pictures.

You can't change my opinion about this now. The attack on American was by our own government. That video with Osama was really suprising too. If he's left handed, why does he write a letter with his right, and why is he wearing a watch when it's forbidden?

I can remember this day like yeterday. It was in the 5th grade. I was in Religion class opening my pencil case when all of a sudden two girls were called out of the classroom to go home. I remeber thinking "Lucky". Then I was called out and I saw my mom in the front office crying. I was walking toward her and I remember saying in my head "Who died now? I don't want to go to a funeral" Then I said, "Wha'ts wrong" She said nothing. We were walking to the car and she said NYC had been bombed. I then lost a gasp of air. In SI, you can see a nice view of the towers, and we were on our way to the place you can see the towers there. As we aproached the hill, we looked over and saw nothing but a cloud of smoke. They were gone. I then remeber on my way home, just looking in the car next to mee this girl crying on the phone. I just remember that for some reason. I then watched the attacks for the first time on TV, juts looking in a daze.

It's unfortunatly one of those things you don't forget.

I can remember what I was doing, when I was doing it, what I was wearing, the color of my pencil case, the class I was in, the teacher, the people around me. The places I went that day.

I was on my way to ESPNZone the other day and we passed the trade center site, and as you pass it you just get this chill going down your spine.

Unfortunatly you cannot see anything because of a green fence surrounding the area.

And to think Osama may not have dne anything (I'm not saying he's completly innocent) and that out gorverment attacked ther own people.

[krawhitham]

I do not think Bush and company was smart enough to pull something like that off.

But I do think it is very possible they shot down the one plane

but I'll add fuel to your fire

A September, 2000 document by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC; cofounded by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and Richard Perle), entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces and Resources For the New Century states the following:

* "To preserve American military preeminence in the coming decades, the Department of Defense must move more aggressively to experiment with new technologies and operational concepts, and seek to exploit the emerging revolution in military affairs."

* "Further, the process of military transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event � like a new Pearl Harbor."

http://911revisited.infad.net/video.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

http://www.911truth.org/index.php

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

[Snash13]

You can't change my opinion about this now. The attack on American was by our own government. That video with Osama was really suprising too. If he's left handed, why does he write a letter with his right, and why is he wearing a watch when it's forbidden?

And to think Osama may not have dne anything (I'm not saying he's completly innocent) and that out gorverment attacked ther own people.

You must also think that the Armstrong moon landing was filmed in a hollywood basement right ?

Good god.

We were ******* attacked by terrorists. NOT BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT.

[NYM]

Man landed on the moon. I believe that. But you have to expand your mind to different theories. How do you explain everything in that video. If you can counter the stuff that was brought up in that video, I will no longer believe the government attacked the US.

[gcurrier2004]

If you can counter the stuff that was brought up in that video, I will no longer believe the government attacked the US.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: I really hope your kidding

[NYM]

Ok maybe the government didn't attack there own country, but they lied. They covered up evidence.

But still there are so many unanswered questions:

- How come a guys passport can be recovered, but a black box can't?

- How come it shows a missle coming out of the so called boeing plane?

- How come there were no marks on the grass outside the Pentagon?

- How come the hole was so small?

- How come there looked like explosions going on the lower parts of the Trade Center?

- How come the Bin Laden tape apprared to be a fake with evidence to back it up?

- How come....

[HardcoreLegend]

I have seen interviews from the owners of the gas stations that said they never had a change to look at the footage the FBI took the tapes within minutes. We seen the planes hitting the WCT buildings millions of times, why does the government not want us to see the Pentagon footage?

Because 1) the second tower was hit on national television 2) the first tower hit was recorded by a insurance adjuster (I believe) 3) the government probably wouldn't allow video of a military installation being attacked to be released. Anything can be picked up from that video, be it the structural impact of an explosion, the arrangement of department and offices inside and various other things.

[MadHatter]

Conspiracy theorists drive me nuts. Every single day, people are being blown to bits by car bombs, in a country where the only thing people know is that they hate.

And everyone wants to think that the United States government is going to take the time to create an elaborate hoax resulting in the termination of thousands of lives... that's ridiculous.

I've been alive long enough to have seen all kinds of history unfold - the problem is that most people don't realize that what they are experiencing is history until 20 years have past. I guess you also believe that thousands of Jews weren't slaughtered and layed in mass graves during World War II as well?

[krawhitham]

Because 1) the second tower was hit on national television 2) the first tower hit was recorded by a insurance adjuster (I believe) 3) the government probably wouldn't allow video of a military installation being attacked to be released. Anything can be picked up from that video, be it the structural impact of an explosion, the arrangement of department and offices inside and various other things.

we have seen countless version of the WTC crashes from private home made videos by tourists that were in NY at the time.

it is not because it was on national TV

[fuzzone]

i remember i was sitting in class when that badboy happened.

I'll tell you right now, i was the first one home.

[gcurrier2004]

Ok maybe the government didn't attack there own country, but they lied. They covered up evidence.

Then why would you say this?

If you can counter the stuff that was brought up in that video, I will no longer believe the government attacked the US.

Of course the govt is going to cover stuff up, they have to. 99 out of 100 Americans are normal people, but those 1 out of 100 would go nuts over the stuff that the govt has hidden and just cause trouble. You saying that the government was behind the attacks on 9/11 is a VERY strong statment, and unless you have indisputable facts behind it, it is somthing that you should not say. It may be your opinion, but your opinon could be very hurtful and very disturbing to people. It was a heartless statment and you should be very sorry that you would say somthing like that. If you really truly believe your statement, why dont you move to another country?

[NYM]

People have different opinions about different situations, but that video explained a lot.

[gcurrier2004]

People have different opinions about different situations, but that video explained a lot.

And people that have strong opinions like that should keep them to themselves until they have undisputable evidence before making a claim like that.