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The new design was released today, and it should be ready by 2008. Obviously this is too early to start building it for the game, I just thought I'd let any interested modders know that they could put together one heck of a stadium. Here's a picture.

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Well they unveiled plans for the new stadium in Washington DC yesterday, looks pretty cool. HOK design. I'm impressed that they chose a modern design instead of going retro like most other parks.

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The Washington Post already crapped over its design as "disappointing" or "modest" and not Camden Yards-ish enough, coming from the "high-brow" Post that's no suprise. :roll:

This is a great site that features a bunch of pics and links to related articles and more pictures. I was really impressed with the "before" pics which show the area the stadium will be built on and its surrounding "neighborhood".

http://www.jdland.com/dc/stadium.cfm

Can't wait to see you mods jump on this project!

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Well, I certainly have no interest in creating it, since it's a total waste of government money for such a boring, worthless design.

What we should do is just all pitch in to create our own version of the washington park, since this one doesn't deserve to reach the game.

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I'm just not sure what to expect anymore. This looks like all the other stadiums that have recently come out. Grass birm in center with a big videoboard open views of the city. I have this feeling that this park won't be completed or it will but in a much more scaled down version. Steel prices are up so much and costs of labor and all thngs construction are going to make the designs suffer.

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So, essentially, we need a park made almost exclusively of concrete, around 40,000 seats, with tight seating arrangements to make the park smaller and more intimate to cut down costs. Also, it needs some luxury boxes and a restaurant to bring in the cash, and it optimally should have basic dimensions to avoid the fake look. If only we had a park like that.

Here's what I think a hypothetical park that accomplishes all those things, and yet is surprisingly cheap, would look like:

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Why can't anyone build a baseball stadium that looks like this? Sigh.

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Kauffman Stadium is absolutely perfect in so many ways. The walls are not favorable being round, I wish there were some geometrics out there, but all in all I like the seating, I like the view, I like the unique scoreboard. I love the grass field. I was afraid parks were getting too quirky, fence against the bay in SF, Open Outfield in PNC, high wall in the Jake, Warehouse in Petco, Brick walls in center at Citizens, smokestacks at GABP, etc. But now that we have a new cookie cutter in Busch, I wish there was more of a quirkyness to it. A high wall or a short porch or a curvy wall with a geometric straight line wall.

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I think the park isn't a retro style park because the surrounding DC Metro area is full of modern buildings so a retro park wouldn't really fit into its surroundings. That being said, it almost looks like HOK is running out of original ideas. The new Nats stadium looks like it borrowed a few things from the new Busch, especially the seating layout and jumbotron placement. They need that architect who designed Oriole Park at Camden Yards to design some more parks.

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The Nats' new park idea looks like something fresh. We need something other than retro, though if they make another "New Comiskey" Park then it's drawing power will die shortly after. The New Nats' ballpark can't be another Camden Yards since it's only one hour away. The Nats need something different, just not bland.

Increase the capacity though, I'd rather than cheaper seats than less seats. Less seats seam to be all the rage these days.

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More seats doen not equal cheaper seats. Parks like the illusion of a full park, but I read 40K and thought that was ambitious. Maybe 35K. I love that I can get a ticket any day at Chase or PNC but an empty stadium is a sorry sight. I love when the Jake fills up or AT&T is packed to the gills.

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Here are some more pictures of the Nats' new park, they don't make it look as dull as the descriptions. They also announced the dimensions: Foul poles will be 335 feet to the right field fence and 332 feet to left, and the outfield will be symmetrically angled with deepest points at 409 feet and power alleys at about 378 feet.

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The goal is to have the stadium match the city like a 'DC Mounument'.

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if that was the case, well, they failed even more than I thought. This park just doesn't mean anything, and there is nothing unique about it.

And those dimensions are idiotic. What is the practical purpose of having that little 5' jog in left center? The whole thing is terrible.

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I love the 5 foot jog in center... I like the dimensions, but it looks like a piece of crystal. The Jake, PNC and Coors use matierials taht match the areas... why not use granite in this park rough white granite, like the Capitol.

Why don't you like the dimensions, Sean?

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The dimension issue is a great key to what the architects were thinking when they designed it. With the exception of Yankee Stadium, all of the classic parks our new designers are trying to ape were forced into their shape by city streets. Fenway's designer didn't want there to be a green monster, but they had to build upwards because it was such a small plot of land.

If you are going to have funky dimensions, it has to be for a clear, defined purpose. I'm sick of parks that have weird little sections (what the hell is going on in the right field of Petco?) just for the sake of having weird little sections.

All of the excess of the retro years, which apparently won't be done until after this park is opened, have made simplicity the way to go. Not doughnut clone simplicity, just beautiful simplicity like Kauffman. Everything is neat and required and it fits together, unlike the mismash of cliches in the newer parks.

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Good point. I think a lot of these dimension changes are added for the odd bounce or a historic purpose, or for entertainment. The casual fan wants to sit in the Crawford boxes at MM Park, the casual fan wants to see someone trip on the hill or take a bead on the ball only to back into a short fence.

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I have to say i love this stadium!

I am a huge fan of camden and all the retro parks, but it will be refreshing to have a sleek modern looking park for a change. Also, being so close to camden yards too, this will be a nice contrast.

All the glass and the curved sweeping geometry give it an almost airport or space station feel which i think is very cool. I do agree with pirate that the grass berm in center is already a tiresome element, and i hope they come up with a more original alternative.

Anyway, i am also a huge fan of the dc metro (the dc subway system) design, so maybe i am just nuts lol

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If you don't like HOKs design for the stadium, then somebody build one. Let your imagination run wild. I'd love to play a franchise with the Nationals but I don't like RFK and I don't know the first thing about creating a stadium. You want to go really retro - make the center field 460 like some of the old parks were. Think it should be done in granite - make a mini Washinton monuments as outfield seating supports. Being from the midwest I like the way Kaufman looks. I first game I ever saw was Mattingly and the Yankees taking on Brett and the Royals when the Royals were good. I'd say it, PNC and Dodger Stadium are my favorites.

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wth is that glass circular structure out in left center?

why not try to make it look like the DC people would associate with as opposed to down town?

perhaps a catcher's eye that looks momument-like?

or a gate to the stadium with Roman influenced porch?

or semicircular arches as opposed to so much glass?

or another jumbo-tron proposing trades to other teams once Soriano's salary takes a toll?

oh and pirate, that was cold. you got my ethusiasm up and robbed it like gary mathews jr.

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