Progression Question about Potential

[PolishJoe]

Hello,

I was wondering about something regarding a player's career potential. In real life, the older a player gets, the lower his potential. That's not true of everybody and all that, but I was wondering if MVP accounts for this?

In other words, if I had Dirk McGirk and he was 21 with a career potential of 5 stars and I never played him and/or he was always hurt, does his career potential dwindly to about 3 when he's roughly 28 or so?

Thanks for any info!

[kgbaseball]

I'm not sure if the default progress.big accounts forthat, but maybe the progression mod found in the Files section does.

[DJEagles]

I have been wondering this also...same goes for their attitudes. I play Bobby Jenks all the time, but he is alway complaining about lack of playing time. Some of the career potential, and attitudes in MVP, I don't understand.

[aaronuconn]

When u play someone and they complain about playing time, it generally has to do with the contract u sign them to. If u sign someone for 3yrs, 10 mil, and MLB indespensible, and u have them in AA, they will complain a lot.

[x63]

They also complain if you play them MORE than you promise. If you sign them to an mlb situational contract and they start all the time, they are gonna complain then too.

No, the potential never changes, but every year they get older the chances their attributes will go down get higher while the chances they go up get lower. A 29yr old 5-star player has a substantially lower chance of gaining say 10 points on his contact in the offseason than a 21 year old 5-star does. Also, while a 21yr old 5-star will virtually NEVER lose points, a 29yr old could lose points in that off-season.

[PolishJoe]

I'm not sure if the default progress.big accounts forthat, but maybe the progression mod found in the Files section does.

That's what I was wondering too - if this mod accounted for that. After carefully reading over the entire documentatino, I'm not sure that that's the case. :?

Perhaps users would have to manually edit it?

No, the potential never changes, but every year they get older the chances their attributes will go down get higher while the chances they go up get lower. A 29yr old 5-star player has a substantially lower chance of gaining say 10 points on his contact in the offseason than a 21 year old 5-star does. Also, while a 21yr old 5-star will virtually NEVER lose points, a 29yr old could lose points in that off-season.

So, what you're saying is that even though the career potential technically never changes, it still unlikely to be reached? That makes sense. Actually, the more I think about it, there are plenty of "late-bloomers." Look at Melvin Mora of the O's. He's never done anything until he was about 31. True, he'll never be an "all-time great", he still could be a perennial all-star in his later ages.

Also, thinking about Derek Lee, not that he's bad or old, but I guess according to my original thinking, his chances of ever reaching stardom, (i.e. Triple Crown contender), would've been drastically reduced given his pre-2005 season. I guess in my way of thinking, he'd never have had a shot to do that. :oops:

[DarkEnigma510]

As far as I know, once a player is assigned a star rating, that star rating is there for that player's cyber life. All progression is a matter of random luck and guidelines drawn up in the progress.big files. IN general, a 5 star will progress faster and have a longer career than a one-star, whom will likely never even make the majors.

Bacause of the random element, its possible for a 4 or 5 star player to fail or simply be mediocre while a 2-3 star could become very good. However, its most likely that league leaders are 4-5 stars.

Players generally progress upwards until around 29-32 when they will begin to decline. Higher star players will likely decline slower than lower star players.

Unless a player is a 5 star, they are unlikely to play past 40 years old.

[DarkEnigma510]

Hello,

I was wondering about something regarding a player's career potential. In real life, the older a player gets, the lower his potential. That's not true of everybody and all that, but I was wondering if MVP accounts for this?

In other words, if I had Dirk McGirk and he was 21 with a career potential of 5 stars and I never played him and/or he was always hurt, does his career potential dwindly to about 3 when he's roughly 28 or so?

Thanks for any info!

So to answer your question, a 28 year old will still have the same star rating as he did at 21, but he is in his peak years and likely won't get much better than he is right now.

Also, players progress indepedent of how much you play them. This is simply a weakness of the progression system set up by EA.

[DarkEnigma510]

So, what you're saying is that even though the career potential technically never changes, it still unlikely to be reached? That makes sense. Actually, the more I think about it, there are plenty of "late-bloomers." Look at Melvin Mora of the O's. He's never done anything until he was about 31. True, he'll never be an "all-time great", he still could be a perennial all-star in his later ages.

Also, thinking about Derek Lee, not that he's bad or old, but I guess according to my original thinking, his chances of ever reaching stardom, (i.e. Triple Crown contender), would've been drastically reduced given his pre-2005 season. I guess in my way of thinking, he'd never have had a shot to do that. :oops:

He MAY have a shot of doing it, but the probabilities are his skills will erode.

[ronmexico]

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