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does anyone know these two pitching grips by these two pitchers?

mike mussina's knuckle curve

mariano rivera's cutter

any answers would be appreciated.

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sure, if you give me a minute, I'll post a pic of mo's cutter.

EDIT:

Well, I did have a magazine article that had a pic of his cutter grip, but I cant find it within the hustle N' Bustle of moving. Sorry.

Just hold it like a curve, but throw it like a fastball.

With the knuckle curve, look in this forum, and you should be able to find one.

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