MadHatter Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hello all, great work to the modders. I don't have the know-how to do any mods myself, but I'm a bit of a baseball fanatic and historian. If there is any help needed for future mods with regards to players/rosters or stats from the past, please feel free to let me know. In time, I would love to see a mod of the 1967, 1974, 1986 or 1987 seasons. Or perhaps even 1918, or something from the 30's. At any rate... I'd love to be of help where I can. Thanks, -MadHatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stecropper Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 MadHatter, We appreciate your offer to help. I will soon be undertaking the 1967 season roster, at least on a personal level if not for a full blown Full Season Mod, and will certainly be willing to share it with everyone. I would suggest that you undertake one of those other seasons you listed and when complete let us know. We might be able to assist in including it into a Full blown Total Classics Season Mod. If you are unfamiliar with MVPEdit I will be more than happy to get you started and familiar with that tool. I would also be delighted in sharing with you some of the methods I use to globally and individually tweak rosters that have been imported from the Lahman Data Base, that is if you would be interested in my method which you could then put your own special touches to. Thanks Again, Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHatter Posted May 19, 2006 Author Share Posted May 19, 2006 Thanks Don - yes, I am familiar with MVPEdit, and would definitely be interested in some of you tips as well. Thanks, -MadHatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyjay117 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Thanks Don - yes, I am familiar with MVPEdit, and would definitely be interested in some of you tips as well. Thanks, -MadHatter check your pms hatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stecropper Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 MadHatter, Glad you are thinking about undertaking one of those Full Season Mods. The *61 Season project was my first experience (and I have been doing this roster stuff for many a many years now) at doing a Full Season and it proved very enjoyable to me along with making me realize some of the distinct advantages in doing Full Season Roster Mods versus individual select teams like I have always done. So I hope you do undertake one of your favorite seasons and I am very interested in providing you insight on any of my past experiences. Don't get shocked by what I copy below as we can discuss it in more detail if and when you ever care to. I normally import an entire league of teams into a solid already existing .mbe file. I then delete down to the 25 Man roster for each team. I use to move the players that didn't make the Major League roster to the minors but have recently been working solely with the Major League Team and ignoring the minors because I found I perfer to not have call ups during my single season Dynasties anyway. Then I do what I term my Global Editing. This Global Editing list has been developed from hours upon hours of research I did relative to how imported rosters via MVPEdit from the Lahman Data Base compared to the EA Default Rosters in each and every category. Thus this Global Editing exercise is basically done to get the imported MVPEdit Rosters in relatively decent shape prior to doing the normal extensive individual player tweaking I do after doing the below Global Editing. You will notice that the first couple Global Edits are solely for cosmetic effect but after that they are for performance and realism effect: GLOVE COLOR: Use Plate Discipline for Brown & Light Brown then set Black individually PD = ( 15, 13, 11, 9, 7, 5, 3, 1 ) = Brown PD = ( 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 0 ) = Light Brown BAT COLOR: Use Fielding Rating for 7 colors then set Black "8" (Dark/Red) individually FD = ( 15, 7 ) = Light Brown FD = ( 14, 6 ) = Dark Brown FD = ( 13, 5 ) = Red FD = ( 12, 4 ) = Black FD = ( 11, 3 ) = Light Black FD = ( 10, 8, 0 ) = Dark Black FD = ( 9, 2, 1 ) = Red/Black SWING TYPE: Use Throw Strength TS = ( 15, 10, 5 ) = 1 TS = ( 14, 9, 4 ) = 2 TS = ( 13, 8, 3 ) = 3 TS = ( 12, 7, 2 ) = 4 TS = ( 11, 6, 1 ) = 5 PLATE DISCIPLINE: Non-Pitchers PD < 14 then PD +2 BUNTING: Non-Pitchers Bunt< 9 & > 1 then Bunt +6 Bunt = 1 & PD = 15 then Bunt +6 Bunt = 1 & PD = 14 then Bunt +6 Bunt = 1 & PD = 13 then Bunt +5 Bunt = 1 & PD = 12 then Bunt +5 Bunt = 1 & PD = 11 then Bunt +4 Bunt = 1 & PD = 10 then Bunt +4 Bunt = 1 & PD = 09 then Bunt +3 Bunt = 1 & PD = 08 then Bunt +3 Bunt = 1 & PD = 07 then Bunt +2 Bunt = 1 & PD = 06 then Bunt +2 Bunt = 1 & PD = 05 then Bunt +1 Bunt = 1 & PD = 04 then Bunt +1 Ptichers Bunt = 15 & Fld = 14 then Bunt -1 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 13 then Bunt -2 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 12 then Bunt -3 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 11 then Bunt -4 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 10 then Bunt -5 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 09 then Bunt -6 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 08 then Bunt -7 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 07 then Bunt -8 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 06 then Bunt -9 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 05 then Bunt -10 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 04 then Bunt -11 Bunt = 15 & Fld = 03 then Bunt -12 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 1 then Bunt +1 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 2 then Bunt +2 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 3 then Bunt +3 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 4 then Bunt +4 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 5 then Bunt +5 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 6 then Bunt +6 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 7 then Bunt +7 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 8 then Bunt +8 Bunt = 1 & Fld = 9 then Bunt +9 Bunt = 1 & Fld =10 then Bunt +10 STEAL AGGRESSIVENESS: Non-Pitchers SA = 9 then SA = 10 SA = 6 then SA = 9 SA = 3 then SA = 8 SA = 2 & SP > 59 then SA = 7 SA = 2 & SP < 60 then SA = 6 SA = 1 & SP > 59 then SA = 5 SA = 1 & SP > 49 & < 60 then SA = 4 SA = 1 & SP > 39 & < 50 then SA = 3 SA = 1 & SP > 29 & < 40 then SA = 2 BASERUNNING: Pitchers -5 BR = 0 & SP > 59 then BR = 5 BR = 0 & SP > 49 & < 60 then BR = 4 BR = 0 & SP > 39 & < 50 then BR = 3 BR = 0 & SP > 35 & < 40 then BR = 2 BR = 0 & SP > 30 & < 36 then BR = 1 SPEED: Non-Pitchers SP < 40 then SP = 40 Pitchers SP < 35 then SP = 35 PITCHERS: Throw Strength Primary Pos = SP then TS +4 TS < 9 then TS +1 TS < 5 then TS 5 Throw Accuracy TA < 6 then TA +5 Primary Pos = SP & TA < 9 then TA +2 Primary Pos = RP & TA< 13 & > 10 then TA -2 Primary Pos = SP & TA < 11 & > 8 then TA +1 Range +2 RG < 4 then RG = 4 Primary Pos = RP & RG > 7 then RG -3 Fielding Fld < 4 then Fld 4 Primary Pos = RP & Fld > 10 then Fld -5 Primary Pos = SP & Fld = 4 then Fld +1 CATCHERS: Throw Strength +1 Throw Accuracy +2 Range +3 Fielding Fld < 4 then Fld = 4 1ST BASEMEN: Throw Strength -1 Throw Accuracy OK Range RG < 4 then RG = 4 Fielding OK 2nd BASEMEN: Throw Strength OK Throw Accuracy TA < 6 then TA = 6 Range +3 Fielding OK 3rd BASEMEN: Throw Strength OK Throw Accuracy +2 Range +3 Fielding Fld < 13 then Fld +3 SHORT STOPS: Throw Strength OK Throw Accuracy TA < 5 then TA +4 Range +3 Fielding -1 Fld < 4 then Fld = 4 OUTFIELDERS: Throw Strength TS < 7 then TS +3 Throw Accuracy TA< 8 then TA +2 Range +1 Primary Pos = CF & RG > 10 then RG +2 Fielding -1 Fld < 4 then Fld = 4 DURABILITY: Starters: IP > 279 then Dur = 15 IP > 259 & < 280 then Dur = 14 IP > 239 & < 260 then Dur = 13 IP > 219 & < 240 then Dur = 12 IP > 199 & < 220 then Dur = 11 IP > 179 & < 200 then Dur = 10 IP > 149 & < 180 then Dur = 9 IP > 119 & < 150 then Dur = 8 IP > 89 & < 120 then Dur = 7 IP > 59 & < 90 then Dur = 6 IP > 39 & < 60 then Dur = 5 IP > 29 & < 40 then Dur = 4 IP > 19 & < 30 then Dur = 3 IP > 9 & < 20 then Dur = 2 IP > 4 & < 10 then Dur = 1 IP< 5 then Dur = 0 Relievers: IP > 139 then Dur = 15 IP > 129 & < 140 then Dur = 14 IP > 114 & < 130 then Dur = 13 IP > 92 & < 115 then Dur = 12 IP > 82 & < 93 then Dur = 11 IP > 72 & < 83 then Dur = 10 IP > 62 & < 73 then Dur = 9 IP > 49 & < 63 then Dur = 8 IP > 39 & < 50 then Dur = 7 IP > 29 & < 40 then Dur = 6 IP > 24 & < 30 then Dur = 5 IP > 19 & < 25 then Dur = 4 IP > 10 & < 20 then Dur = 3 IP > 5 & < 11 then Dur = 2 IP > 1 & < 6 then Dur = 1 IP < 2 then Dur = 0 STAMINA: Starters +16 Relievers No Change to (RP & SP) or (RP & RP) (Was Primary & Secondary = RP -5) PICKOFF: OK MOVEMENT: Pitch # 2 +2 (Was OK) Pitch # 3 +2 (Was +3) Pitch # 4 +2 (Was +2) Primary & Secondary = RP then Pitch # 2 -2 (Was 0) Primary & Secondary = RP then Pitch # 3 -2 (Was -3) Primary & Secondary = RP then Pitch # 4 -2 (Was -2) CONTROL : (Was - Nothing done to Primary Pos = RP & Secondary Pos = RP) Pitch # 1 +15 (Was +10) Pitch # 2 +15 (Was +10) Pitch # 3 +15 (Was +20) Pitch # 4 +15 (Was +10) Primary & Secondary = RP the -10 on All Pitches (Was 0) VELOCITY: OK CONTACT: For both versus L & R handed Pitching Non-Pitchers CON < 25 then CON = 25 Pitchers CON < 15 then CON =15 POWER: For both versus L & R handed Pitching Non-Pitchers PWR +10 Pitchers PWR< 30 & > 19 then PWR +5 PWR < 20 & > 9 then PWR = 25 PWR < 10 & > 0 then PWR = 20 PWR = 0 then PWR = 15 All Players PWR > 59 & HR% < 2 then PWR = 59 PWR > 49 & HR% < 2 then PWR -10 PWR > 69 & HR% < 3 then PWR = 69 PWR > 59 & HR% < 3 then PWR -10 PWR > 79 & HR% < 4 then PWR = 79 PWR > 69 & HR% < 4 then PWR -10 Stats HRs hit vs L = 0 & Stats HRs hit vs R = 0 then PWR -10 HOME RUN % For both versus L & R handed Pitching All Players HR% > 0 & Stats HRs hit vs L = 0 & Stats HRs hit vs R = 0 then HR% = 0 INDIVIDUAL TWEAKS: "OUT" Pitch (Guidelines): E.R.A. < 2.20 15 & 14 Movement Pitches (Also Consider # Wins) < 2.59 14 & 13 < 2.99 13 & 13< 3.20 13 for Relievers add .50 to E.R.A. *** Do Starters & Relievers by Book & Guidelines above. to select Relievers: Pitch 2 Movement > 11 & Pitch 2 Control < 80 OUTLYERS: ALL Players: Contact (L & R) > 79 & Durability < 7 (then individual tweaks as needed) Power (L & R) > 69 & Durability < 7 Pitchers Only: Contact (L&R) > 79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHatter Posted May 19, 2006 Author Share Posted May 19, 2006 Wow - thanks for the info. Yes, I'm going to undertake one. I'm picking the 1974 season, solely because it was the year I was born and I want to learn a bit more about it. I've started by creating a giant Excel Sheet and I'm beginiing to just start with the rosters, team by team. I'll pare those to the 25 man-rosters for the majors and would like to put some of the guys who didn't get as many Major League AB's into the AAA teams (not going to focus too much on AA & A players). I'll update as I get through the process and would love feedback along the way. And if anyone wants to contribute their knowledge to this as well, that would be great. As far as timing goes, I have a 6-month old and am in the process of a home purchase, so I'll be doing this in drips and drabs, but here goes the beginning of the 1974 Mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stecropper Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Well MadHatter, That is "Music to My Ears" ............... I was really hoping you would decide on '74 since it was a special season for me as well. After the '60s my knowledge really dwindles quickly because in the '60s is when I was a youngster through High School into College and was a Baseball fanatic in every sense of the word. Then I kind of got away from following Major League Baseball as closely into the '70s as I had in the '60s. But in '74 I had just finished my 6 year hitch in the Marine Corp and really got back into Baseball that year and once again followed it very closely in '74-'75 then started sorta drifting away once again. So please keep me up to date on your progress as I am very interested in your success and offer any and all value I can bring to your project. Good Luck, Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHatter Posted May 19, 2006 Author Share Posted May 19, 2006 Great - and as a Sox fan, I'm looking forward to seeing teh `67 series in action! I'll create a post called "1974 Mod" and update you as I get into the process. -MadHatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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