kinghernandez Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I know they suck but cut 'em a break. How do you get that many promising free agents who flop? Oh well, I saw trues did a KSTW mod for the 04 game but I would like it if someone could update the Mariners network with some new features. Thanks Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr33niL Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I think Trues did a Fox Sports NW Overlay last year. I dont think he has done an updated version (?). Very true, there is no love for the M's around these parts. :( Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinghernandez Posted June 5, 2006 Author Share Posted June 5, 2006 I know man, but seriously Aurillia, Spezio, Beltre, Reese, the list just goes on. I got the northwest that is not by Trues but it's a pretty simple layout and it's old. I'm liking the Lopez man, (All-Star!) Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr33niL Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Thanks man, nice to find another Mariner fan in here.. Few and far between. The Ms have had some pretty horrible luck with FAs the last few years. Spiezio, Aurilia and Reese should have never been signed so you have to lay that at Bavasi's feet. Beltre on the other hand, I was ecstatic when we got him! It just hasnt worked out. Worst move under Bavasi thus far? Giving Guillen to the Tigers for two absolute SCRUB players (Santiago and Gonzalez... both released within a year). How bout another depressing tidbit... Mariners signed free agent Dave Hansen for a PH in 2004. Doing so, losing thier 1st round pick to Arizona. You know who the D-Backs got with that pick??? Freakin Conor Jackson.. Guh! So its been bone head moves combined with bad luck resulting in our current loser 2006 Mariners. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jerk Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Luck has nothing to do with it. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiggins Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Mariners are my Second Team as i used lived in Seattle .. Johjima and Lopez are Stars ... Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr33niL Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 \ said: Luck has nothing to do with it. \ said: So its been bone head moves combined with bad luck resulting in our current loser 2006 Mariners. Yeah... that^ NO ONE could have guessed Beltre would be as horrible as he is.. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 \ said: Worst move under Bavasi thus far? Giving Guillen to the Tigers for two absolute SCRUB players (Santiago and Gonzalez... both released within a year). Ha ha, that was was a great trade! Now watch Guillen tear up his knee again. :? Be patient, the M's have a few very good prospects in the minors.(i.e. Adam Jones.) Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinghernandez Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Yeah, they have been saying that about the prospects for 5 years now but they all get hurt. Blackley, Nageotte, Snelling, Thornton again the list goes on. But I must say The Emiliano Fruto looked good in his short stint and Garciapara is tearing it up in AAA. If they don't work out the M's are in trouble because there is no one behind them. Oh, does anyone know why they are keeping Petagine? He has like 4 AB's. Why not get another outfielder? It's ok cause I like Bloomquist and with Reed struggling he plays a lot. Again, another borderline prospect. Even the announcers are struggling right now, anyone else notice how much they are messing up this year? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jerk Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Well that Freddy Garcia was a horrible trade. As was the Jeff Cirillo investment. As was the Thornton for Borchard deal, especially since they gave Borchard away on waivers. And Johjima is a waste of money. And Betancourt should not be their starting shortstop, they just need a bridge veteran to either Garciaparra or Tuisasosopo (sp?). And there were concerns about Beltre before they signed him, considering he only turned it on in a contract year. Considering how few injuries the M's have every season, Im surprised they can never put together a good team. And considering how many prospects they were supposed to be loaded with, we certainly haven't seen any of them make it to the majors, much less contribute. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiggins Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 And Johjima is a waste of money. .. wtf u on about Johjima is a KING!!!!!!!!! ..... in my Fanasty baseball he is like 4th Leading Catcher .. in Points ..... (Counts Batting) Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcurrier2004 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 \ said: NO ONE could have guessed Beltre would be as horrible as he is.. Paul DePodesta did. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jerk Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 \ said: And Johjima is a waste of money. .. [naughty word] u on about Johjima is a KING!!!!!!!!! ..... in my Fanasty baseball he is like 4th Leading Catcher .. in Points ..... (Counts Batting) Why would they spend their money on a veteran catcher who will be replaced in a year or two by either Ryan Christiansen, Guillermo Quiroz or Jeff Clement, when thy could have spent their money on some pitching. It's not like Johjima is going to single handedly make them a contending team. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinghernandez Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Can't forget Rob Johnson at C but I think Johjima will be around for a while with his quick bat. I have not seen many fastballs get by him. But when it comes to money it's Beltre and no one else that is the problem. They have so much invested in him that they can't do anything with him but play him. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicubsfan09 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 you guys think your luck is bad we havent won a world series in 98 years Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jerk Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 But at least every time you get close and lose you always find something other than the team itself to blame it on. Considering the pitching talent that the Cubs have drafted, I'm surprised they are so bad. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicubsfan09 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 well something bad happens at the wrong moment (see bartman, then alex gonzalez's boot, then 8 run inning in 03') Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 I love Johjima and anybody who says he sucks hasn't seen him play. He is a veteran catcher on an underachieving pitching staff that has improved drastically this season due to him. He's smart, a good hitter, a great fielder, and he's selfless. At least the Mariners aren't gay like the Yankees. Yankees Suck Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfgiantsflgators Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 \ said: At least the Mariners aren't gay like the Yankees. Yankees Suck this is going to go over well... Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevattac Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 If someone dosent pull away with the AL west soon, the Mariners could sneak back into the hunt. All 4 teams are only atleast 5.5 games back. Lopez has been a very pleasent surprise and Ichiro is producing like always, but the mvp and arguably the most underated player in the AL is Raul Ibanez. Oh yeah and 33, how bout Willie this year (.294 BA) ? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrhino13x Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 does anyone else think Beltre juiced in a contract year? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-257831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinghernandez Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 \ said: does anyone else think Beltre juiced in a contract year? I'd say most likely but the reason he's not hitting now is because the ball goes to people and he just can't find a gap. He's not striking out a whole lot, that is for Sexson to do. The fans are really getting sick of that. :protest: Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-258142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jerk Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 But you knew what you were getting with sexson when they signed him. Maybe you would expect mroe power, but he's alwasy been a big power, huge strikeout player, much like Adam Dunn or Russel Branyan. I'm not sure whether Beltre was juiced or not, he never seemed to get much bigger, so i suspect it was just because of the contract year that he dominated. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-258155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 So is Beltre baseball's version of the NBA's Tim Thomas? ;) Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-258165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jerk Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 The NBA has dozens of players like that, all working hard for one year to get that long-term guarenteed contract, then they come back to earth...and suck. But that's why you never see that in the NFL (no guaranteed contracts) and hardly ever in the NHL. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/21116-mariners-please/#findComment-258175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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