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I think that this would make a nice little project for some expert modders to undertake. Think of it: more characters with less known information about them, more stadiums to make with fans outlining the outfield "wall," a 50 foot pitching distance, 9-ball counts, etc. It would be great.

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Another few that I thought of:

I think you were still allowed to steal backwards at this time (ex: On second, you steal first)

Those fans outlining the "wall" would move in for the home team and move out for the visitors

The ball in the modded version of the game could get darker and darker as the game goes on; replacement balls weren't really used 'til 1920.

Games called due to darkness.

Pitcher stamina at 99% by the 7th.

Oh man, this game would be great. Seriously, if someone could mod the pitcher's mound to be 50' away instead of 60' 6", they would be the best modder ever.

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this would be an awesome mod. but unfortunatley from what I understand from the modders is that there are a few things in each stadium that are impossible to mod, the mound being one of these things. but this would be an awesome mod.

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Another few that I thought of:

I think you were still allowed to steal backwards at this time (ex: On second, you steal first)

Those fans outlining the "wall" would move in for the home team and move out for the visitors

The ball in the modded version of the game could get darker and darker as the game goes on; replacement balls weren't really used 'til 1920.

Games called due to darkness.

Pitcher stamina at 99% by the 7th.

Oh man, this game would be great. Seriously, if someone could mod the pitcher's mound to be 50' away instead of 60' 6", they would be the best modder ever.

This sounds something like Baseball Simulator 1000 for the SNES. ;) I can't imagine a strategy that involves stealing 1rst base from second. :yernuts:

Left handed infielders would probably be common.

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Another few that I thought of:

I think you were still allowed to steal backwards at this time (ex: On second, you steal first)

This may sound dumb, but why exactly would you want to go backwards? Isn't the whole point of baseball to get closer to home plate, not further away from it?

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I brought it up just because it would be another screwy feature to an already funky game.

People used to steal first to distract the pitcher. Remember the game was not as "professional" back then, so even the pros felt like they could screw around freely out on the field. Sometimes they just felt like having fun, with no worries of the consequences. The account of this that I read was because a double steal (1st and 3rd) didn't work because the runner on third didn't go. The guy went from 1st to 2nd, but the catcher didn't take the bait and throw down, which would have allowed the runner on 3rd to most likely score. The runner now on 2nd wanted another stab at the double steal, so he stole 1st on the next pitch, and badmouthed the opposing team; he stole 2nd again on the next pitch and this time the catcher was p*ssed, so he threw down to get him out, and the runner on 3rd scored.

Nice little story I read somewhere, but to be honest it probably happened before 1887.

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Actually I heard a funny story about the first ever stolen base. This guy ran from first to second before the pitch came and everyone watching the game and on the field started laughing at him. He had the last laugh when he pointed out that there was no rule against it.

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I brought it up just because it would be another screwy feature to an already funky game.

People used to steal first to distract the pitcher. Remember the game was not as "professional" back then, so even the pros felt like they could screw around freely out on the field. Sometimes they just felt like having fun, with no worries of the consequences. The account of this that I read was because a double steal (1st and 3rd) didn't work because the runner on third didn't go. The guy went from 1st to 2nd, but the catcher didn't take the bait and throw down, which would have allowed the runner on 3rd to most likely score. The runner now on 2nd wanted another stab at the double steal, so he stole 1st on the next pitch, and badmouthed the opposing team; he stole 2nd again on the next pitch and this time the catcher was p*ssed, so he threw down to get him out, and the runner on 3rd scored.

Nice little story I read somewhere, but to be honest it probably happened before 1887.

is there an actual MLB rule now that prevents you from stealing 1st from 2nd? or are no teams just dumb enough to do it?
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Yes, there is a rule banning that now. The rule was actually established shortly after the story which I provided earlier.

Actually, it goes hand in hand with the concept of touching the bases in order. In the same way that you can't go from 2nd to Home, you can't go from 2nd to 1st; only 2nd to 3rd is legal.

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See. Everyone agrees. This would be an awesome mod.

So get working on it, whoever.

Wow, you're not too demanding. It was your idea, why don't you start it up? You've heard how difficult and possibly impossible it may be and still want to go through with it, why don't you lead the charge?

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Oy (whistle) This would be a hard project but how could anybody change the wall dimensions for every half inning? That would be crazy! Along with the mound! If anyone takes on this and suceeds then they are AMAZING!

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Wow, you're not too demanding. It was your idea, why don't you start it up? You've heard how difficult and possibly impossible it may be and still want to go through with it, why don't you lead the charge?

Dude, I'm kidding. I suck at modding stuff. If this mod can't be done, so be it. I was just messing around with that last post. However, like philliesphan said, if anyone could do all that sh*t, then they're an amazing modder.

<Didn't they still hurl (it wasn't called pitching yet) underhanded? When did they start throwing overhand to batters?>

I think they were allowed to throw overhand in the 1870's.

As far as questions like that and others brought up before, I have many baseball encyclopedias that I could easily look everything up.

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This may sound dumb, but why exactly would you want to go backwards? Isn't the whole point of baseball to get closer to home plate, not further away from it?

Which base is closer to home though?

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don't forget ground rule doubles being homeruns :D

don't forget about balls being hit that leave the park in fair territory but landing in foul territory being called foul balls. (now they're home runs, of course).

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Not to sound like a fan boy, but I've been sitting here for a couple of minutes and I can't think of anything to change. Except for the allowing of instant replay in certain situations, which is more of an administrative change, I can't think of anything.

Again, it's not a change to the game itself, but in case of an all-star game tie, ala 2002, I would have it go to a HR Derby. And there would be a skills competition the day before.

Another thing that I'd change is of a scoring matter. A reliever who blows a save should not get a win. In a situation when this could occur, the win should be awarded to the pitcher who would have gotten it had the save been converted.

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