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It gets even gheyer. Unfortunately I went to go see my counselor, turns out, I am discharged from the school due to me graduating, therefore I am unable to get ahold of an updated transcript. However, I will be going back tomorrow to the school to see if I could get ahold of an updated transcript, because the updates will have to be done manually.

I hope all of this back and forth crap ends and ends fast.

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aww man that sucks.. it doesnt even compare but, i just found out that im gonna have to pay $10 to get my final transcript for the same reason. The school screwed up the transcripts of my AP eng class... EVERYBODY but ours was right.... so since im no longer a student, i gotta pay it cause my mom wants it for her scrapbook thingie of me... i mean i know it doesnt even come close to comparing, but i hate that rule...

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Bumping this, because I'm in such a depressed mood and I'm feeling all sorts of annoyed and pissed and all sorts of other words used to describe angry.

It's been two years and I have not been able to attend college yet because of some circumstances that I had to handle. This year however I've done everything in my power, worked hard with every fiber of my being to make sure I am ready for the Fall 2007 term. I filled out all my papers early, filed them early, taken care of everything.

Everything but Financial Aid.

So anyway, I filled out the FAFSA forms and everything they asked of me to do, so they ask me to come into the financial aid office in my college to hand them a copy of my parent's W-2 forms. Now, keep in mind that I do not live with my mom or my dad, as they reside in Connecticut and I am strongly against going out there.

So I go in, all cool and relaxed because I'm so awesome in person, and I hand in my grandfather's W-2 forms because like I said before, I do not live in CT with my mom or dad. Now, the lady tells me that she cannot use my grandfather's papers because the documents state that they require my mom or my father's financial papers, however I told the woman that I do not live with my parents, that I live with my grandparents in the city. She says that I still have to bring in my mom or my dad's financial info nonetheless. Annoyed now, I left and took the train ride back uptown to my headquarters in the Bronx.

Now, by this point I'm frustrated, because what happens now is this:

If I hand in my mother's financial information from Connecticut, because my grandparents are not my legal guardians, the school will believe that I live with my mother in Connecticut and so I will not be eligible for any New York related college funding. All grants that I qualify for will be null and void. The only thing my parents would have to resort to is Loans and I hate loans with a never ending passion. The thought of money given to you that you'd have to pay back with INTEREST just pisses me off.

Another possible solution to this would be that I would have to start working. Sure, it sounds like a decent solution but it isn't. Everything would be fine at my job, but when my paycheck comes in, a huge chunk of what I would be making, which would be a small amount of money, will go to financial aid, and on top of that, the grants given to me by the state now that I work in the city of New York, the amount of money in the grants will be ridiculously low.

Another possible solution would be to go to a technical institution. I told my mother via telephone that I refuse to go to a technical institution because all of the paperwork has been filed for a city university, and I'm not that dumb to believe that I can get a degree in less than 8 months or whatever ludicrous claim those institutes have. On top of that I've heard horror stories so I'm not even going to go there.

One other solution my mother suggested would be that I head on to CT to continue my studies. I don't want to head on down to Connecticut because I already have everything I need here in New York, and it would be ridiculously hard to adjust or make the transition from urban life to suburban life especially when I've been living here in NYC for the past 19 years of my life.

I'm out of solutions and it's a heavy blow towards my pursuit of furthering my education after high school. People can tell me "heh, some people just aren't made for college", but all I can say is FU, those people who aren't made for college don't have the drive to be where they want to be, and they just don't have the passion others have to become successful.

I'm depressed because I'm slowly coming to a realization that I am a failure, and that the past 2 years that I have not attended college will continue, but this time it's due to circumstances beyond my control.

I don't know what to do anymore. I'm stuck here pissed and depressed because I feel like I am the only one that goes through crap like this. ALL of my friends have parents that even though they don't live with them they live within the state, and they lead happy lives in college, while I am stuck with nothing. Somehow, someway, something is always screwing me over.

My motivation is still there to attend college but this is just slowly crushing my spirits.

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KC kids move out of state to attend college all the time. Most ASU students are from back east and they get financial aid. You won't be denied because you live in NYC. You just have to prove you live in NYC.

I know loans sound horrible and they are for the most part, but a lot of good jobs help pay them back. My wife is $160,000 in debt from Med School alone. No matter how much cash she makes that amount is insurmountable. When she is done with residency the medical offices and programs help pay that total off.

Look at these options again and talk to the financial people at school again.

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I'm depressed because I'm slowly coming to a realization that I am a failure, and that the past 2 years that I have not attended college will continue, but this time it's due to circumstances beyond my control.

Dont talk like that damn it. Your not a failure. I may not know you personaly, but from what I've read about you, you are a cool guy who has talent, movatition, and heart to raise to become something in this world. I'm coming from a poor family, and odds are that I wont amount much to anything eiter, but you've got talent. My brother just starting going to college when he was 25, and he's still strugling, but he's ment to be there, having a GPA of 4.0.

Whan I'm trying to say, is that dont lose faith in yourself, you'll get to your point of destination, but if you have to wait another year, then thats ok. Things always work out in the oing run.

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Don't give up. I know it sucks, but the whole process is a struggle no matter what. Believe me. I left undergraduate owing nothing more then 3K in loans because I played my cards right. But I, like yourself, wanted more. In order to do that, I had to realize that the funds for that education were going to have to come from ME. Yes that means loans. It sucks, but you gotta spend money to make money. If you know what you want to do, let NOTHING get in the way, especially some silly loan. I left school completely and now owe back 140K, but it was well worth it because I'm doing something I want to do with my life.

You're just going to have to realize that loans are part of the way to pay for that education. But the good news is you can pay it back, which you should do anyhow. Remember, not all loans are the same. The government will subsidize some of those loans, so that you don't have to pay back a dime in interest while you're still attending school.

I struggled with the whole parents thing and FAFSA too. They kept wanting me to report my dad's income. The only problem was I hadn't seen my dad since I was 5 years old, so I told them that if they wanted it so bad, they could locate him for me and ask since I had no way of getting it. Let me ask you this, who is your legal guardian? That's the only income you have to report to them, because the government expects them to contribute to your education. I forget what age it is, but there's a certain age you reach where you're also not required to report your parents' income.

But otherwise, I can't stress enough not to give up if you want something like this. It'll be a never ending battle year after year regardless. If you're just venting, that's cool, but believe me you can do it. Don't let the silly loan scare you away. If that's what it takes, then do it. There would be no value to the whole thing if it was easy to attain.

But keep in mind this and believe me...there is PLENTY of time for a job in college too. Plenty. I didn't realize this either until I got into graduate school. I'm telling you, the biggest secret is time management. Set you time for your studies but also time for fun. There's a good balance. But also, that leaves plenty of time for a part time job, if not a full time job. If I had known that going through undergrad, it would've saved me thousands of dollars also. When I got to graduate school, only then did I learn the true meaning of busy. This is where school is a full time 60 hour a week job. Even then I knew guys going to school with me full time, working full time, and raising a family. And if they could do it, then so can you.

Anyhow, don't mean to hijack, but you can do it. They're always going to make it a struggle, just give em a kick in the a$$ and show em you mean business.

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the city colleges used to be pretty cheap, comparatively speaking, many years ago when i was in high school there. the city college system is also very good. the wikipedia reference you made pointed out that queens college was eighth on a best value list with an annual tuition of $4000. if you're commuting, i don't think you can get a better deal than that these days. with scholarship potential something might be able to get worked out.

college is more like a business these days - like everything of course. loans seem inevitable. debt seems inevitable too. i agree that going into debt is not a good idea. but, if it's true that queens tuition is only $4000, that would be a hard deal to pass up in today's world.

i'm an older guy myself. i have a ph.d. in psychology but my wife and i are looking into network marketing to actually supplant our income. don't want to rely on social security. there seem to be some good opportunities out there for making a big passive income from a home base. i know people who make a lot of money ( a lot!) doing network marketing. $3000 a week and more. takes work, but they're doing it. increasingly, network marketing will be the way to go in this economy. check some of the titles on amazon.

anyway, $4000 is nothing for tuition these days. $20,000 in loans at a cheap interest rate would not be a bad sized debt for a degree. just depends on what you want to do.

best wishes,

richard :)

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sorry for the second post...

but KC you are a star.

if you were indifferent about your future it would be a problem. many people are indifferent about their futures these days, and that is sad.

but your frustration signals a heart's desire to want to do well in life, and that, sir, is a most noble thing in my book!

i am very sure from hearing about the challenge that you face and your passion to do well, that you will indeed find your way. i'll look forward to hearing about it soon. :)

God bless.

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The thing that annoys me more is people who tell me that college is not for everybody and it irks me to no end because that is a slap in the face to those who are heavily motivated. I'm one of those guys that if you ask to put in 100%, if I know what I am doing and if I know I'm capable of achieving the task I will put in 400%. Screw 110%, those are for guys who are semi-motivated, as for me?

I'm a winner and will always be a winner.

If I managed to dedicate a couple hours a day working on 163+ uniforms and pump out the same quality on all teams, lord knows what I'm capable of doing inside an educational facility. I am so eager to attend college it's not even funny, but there are things that just keep happening to me that make me believe that I just can't win. No matter what I do, even if I put in 300% when all you need is 100%, I will, in some strange fashion, always lose.

I keep my head up though, because I'd rather try my best and fail, than risk nothing, and gain nothing.

Babe Ruth struck out 1330 times in his career. But he stepped up to the plate and took his cuts, which is why he also hit 714 home runs. The point? I CANNOT succeed without multiple failures first.

Just how many failures I'll go through is anyone's guess before I finally succeed. I don't ask for sympathy because I don't need it, but I'm not stopping right here just because I can't get any financial aid. To quote Rocky Balboa, life will beat me to my knees if I let it, but it's all about how much I can take and keep moving forward, and I'm a much better person than to just sit there and say I am not where I want to be because of that guy, those people, this reason, etc.

Best believe Kccitystar will be in college in 2007, even if he has to create his OWN solution.

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damn straight.

college is something everyone should do once in their lives. it's some of the best times you'll ever have.

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