Minnesota Twins Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I recently purchased the GeForce FX 5200 (128mb)and upgraded from my old Geforce 2 TI(64mb) and am now able to max out the graphics...Evrything looks real nice here is my problem though... no matter what display setting I choose and refresh rate the game play is still a little choppy at times... here ar the specs on the rest of my system 1.04 Ghz amd athlon 256 mb of ram and a noble view monitor that supports 1280 X 1024 (classic case of the guy who buys the nice Vid card but can't afford to overhaul the rest of the system lol) Anybody have any advice on what to upgrade besides the Video card...? Where should I start for better performance...? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I use an Nvidia card as well (GeForce4 Ti4200) and the things that have helped me are as follows: New drivers...56.72 is the one available at Nvidia.com, but there are newer 'beta' versions out there...I'm currently using 61.72. Go into your control panel settings an move AntiAliasing up to 2X or even 2XQ...you can mess around with the other settings in there as well, but I think AA is the one that matters most. I'm using 2XQ for AA, 2X for AF, "Performance" setting, and Vsync off. EA suggests using a refresh rate of 60Hz with Vsync on, but I can't stand 60Hz, it bothers my eyes, I'm at 85 and it looks great. There is definitely something strange about the coding of this game because it doesn't seem to matter what resolution I use, I get pretty much the same performance...increasing AA and AF has an effect on performance though. As soon as I turned on AA the game smoothed out immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoll Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 the next least costly way of upgrading would be to add more ram if you can. it help with thing over all. you next step depends on your mthermoard. if you havent reached you max cup for the mother board, then you may want to consider upgrading the cpu. the most expeive sepyp would be a new motherboard, cpu, which likley given the board out there means new ram. throws are the upgrades that ar most exfetiive. given your running on256 ram, vary min inual for systems these says to run much, i just thry that if you bmother bard able to handle it. try going to 512 at least. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I use an Nvidia card as well (GeForce4 Ti4200) and the things that have helped me are as follows: New drivers...56.72 is the one available at Nvidia.com, but there are newer 'beta' versions out there...I'm currently using 61.72. Go into your control panel settings an move AntiAliasing up to 2X or even 2XQ...you can mess around with the other settings in there as well, but I think AA is the one that matters most. I'm using 2XQ for AA, 2X for AF, "Performance" setting, and Vsync off. EA suggests using a refresh rate of 60Hz with Vsync on, but I can't stand 60Hz, it bothers my eyes, I'm at 85 and it looks great. There is definitely something strange about the coding of this game because it doesn't seem to matter what resolution I use, I get pretty much the same performance...increasing AA and AF has an effect on performance though. As soon as I turned on AA the game smoothed out immensely. What resolution are you on, spitoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerryW Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 But doesn't enabling the Anisotropic settings actually DECREASE performance...If you read description of the setting, it says that increasing it "improves image quality at the cost of performance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 What resolution are you on, spitoon? 1600X1200 32 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 But doesn't enabling the Anisotropic settings actually DECREASE performance...If you read description of the setting, it says that increasing it "improves image quality at the cost of performance" Definitely, that's why I say there is something strange about the coding of this game. When I first got the game I was a bit disappointed by the performance, it was quite jerky...I tried everything, lowering detail levels, changing resolutions, changing video card settings...everything...I tried all the tricks I know to increase performance...I didn't try upping the AA level, because I knew that would decrease performance...then someone mentioned that increasing AA actually helps the performance of this game. I still didn't try it, I know my card/computer very well and there was no way you could convince me that increasing AA would improve performance....then I started thinking about how little the games performance changed even when I set everything for the best performance...I know that sports games are not the most taxing games out there and I can play other games (COD, Medal of Honor, Splinter Cell etc.) with medium to high settings with no problems. So one time I tried it...worked like a charm...My framerate is not that great, around 30-35, with the occasional dip to 20 during some of the walk ups and stuff, but never during the game, and up to 70 or so during some replays. I know it's odd, but I also know there is something funny about the coding...a buddy of mine has fully 2X the computer I have, with a Radeon 9700Pro and it has always run way smoother on my computer...the AA thing doesn't seem to help his...Patch 2 has a bit, but mine is way smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Twins Posted July 18, 2004 Author Share Posted July 18, 2004 Hey thanks everyone.. I did a couple of things to help the situation out... 1. When I installed my new graphics card I did not have it in all the way so it reset my bios setup... I had to reconfigure my RAM and CPU speeds... man am I glad I caught that... 2. I am getting a RAM upgrade tomorrow at general nano systems If you have never checked these guys out it's worth it.. best place in the Twin Cities for any of your hardware needs. Maybe they will give me a discount for the plug eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drovebykeptgoing1 Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Just a thought if your running an Nvidia card get 6xxx drivers and make profile for the game and baseline test it. Its pretty easy to get the sweet spot if you tweak and test Im using 61.36 drvers on a 5200 ultra and I can crank the detaials and still run respectable frame rates , it just took a while to build the profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Twins Posted July 18, 2004 Author Share Posted July 18, 2004 Well I got another 256 mb of ram which is nice... but where are you finding the 6x.xx drivers? last time I checked they were at 57.xx or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Well I got another 256 mb of ram which is nice... but where are you finding the 6x.xx drivers? last time I checked they were at 57.xx or something? Go to www.guru3d.com and on the right hand side of the page click on Nvidia Forceware Drivers...the last one's I got from there were 62.11 I think. Keep in mind they are 'beta' drivers, not official Nvidia releases, so if you are squeamish about stuff like that then wait for Nvidia to release their official set, probably in the next 10 days or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdriver Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Thanks for the info, spitoon. I have a Ti-4600 (56.72) and set it to play MVP with AA set to 2x and v-synch off and 'Quality' setting. I also play it at 1280x1024x32bit with all details set to max. What a turn-around on the stuttering issue!! This game is now playable for me, it doesn't look like 3 balls are thrown at the same time and seems to have an overall better look to it as well. Once again, THANKS!! ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Thanks for the info, spitoon. I have a Ti-4600 (56.72) and set it to play MVP with AA set to 2x and v-synch off and 'Quality' setting. I also play it at 1280x1024x32bit with all details set to max. What a turn-around on the stuttering issue!! This game is now playable for me, it doesn't look like 3 balls are thrown at the same time and seems to have an overall better look to it as well. Once again, THANKS!! ez No problem, I know it's wierd to have to turn up settings to get better performance....I love EA ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridIronGhost Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Try the drivers from here http://www.omegadrivers.net/ it sure make the game purty and smooth...IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Twins Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 Just a heads up to all you Nvidia users... Nvidia just came out with it's latest drivers 61.72 ... head down to your local nvidia mart and download them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerryW Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Just a heads up to all you Nvidia users... Nvidia just came out with it's latest drivers 61.72 ... head down to your local nvidia mart and download them... Those aren't the latest drivers...You should get the 62.11 drivers instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Those aren't the latest drivers...You should get the 62.11 drivers instead. They are the latest "official WHQL drivers", there are many 'beta' sets floating around there...you have to remember that not everyone is comfortable using beta sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerryW Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 They are the latest "official WHQL drivers", there are many 'beta' sets floating around there...you have to remember that not everyone is comfortable using beta sets. very true...... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Twins Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 when I installed the omega drivers... they did not work with the version of direct X I had.. I am sure I messed something up. anyway not that I am afraid of these other drivers.. just have a hard time tweaking them... or even installing them ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerryW Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 when I installed the omega drivers... they did not work with the version of direct X I had.. I am sure I messed something up. anyway not that I am afraid of these other drivers.. just have a hard time tweaking them... or even installing them ... lol What version of DirectX DO you have?? I suggest downloading the beta of the new 9.0c version...Regardless of the fact that it's a beta, it should significantly boost your graphic card's potential performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Twins Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 9.0b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerryW Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 9.0b ? I stand by what I said----> DirectX 9.0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sq322 Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 since it is a rip from an XP service pack it will it work with win 2k? correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerryW Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 since it is a rip from an XP service pack it will it work with win 2k? correct? it SHOULD...but if anything should go wrong, for some reason, you can still uninstall it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeexDev Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 where can i get directx 9c? and can it work with windows me? lol i know win me sucks but i need to get a new computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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