D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Well good luck with that, 23 faces would be helpful lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoCubs720 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 sorry that I haven't given you a list of Cubs faces D-Unit, but I don't know if there is even a point because only the Cubs starters (except for John Mabry) have faces. Should I still list players that don't have faces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleMo Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 their is no 1023 thing, I have not ran tests yet, but it would just be 23 extra faces if it works Still if it does not work, good job thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 sorry that I haven't given you a list of Cubs faces D-Unit, but I don't know if there is even a point because only the Cubs starters (except for John Mabry) have faces. Should I still list players that don't have faces? Sure, abless said he will try to take on faces for players without one that deserve it, as well as a few others. Hell, I might take a crack at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I would go with last season's 25 man roster. Who cares about FAs, most will still be at the ML level somewhere. Things can be tweaked closer to the start of the new season. I would like to release a 07 beta soon people who are doing teams should assign each player a face # (using the chart above) and find the faces and rename the files (all 3 files fsh, orl, & ord). Also make note if they are a 2004 type Then send those files to D-Unit Here are my default 2x faces. http://www.mindwarped.com/2x-faces.exe It is a self extracting 7z file and here is the list for them, a spreadsheet file is included with the file above. #'s 27, 29, 35, 102, 207, 417, & 474 are not in spreadsheet Last name First name Face # Type Ichiro 1 2005 Sosa Sammy 3 2005 Johnson Randy 4 2005 Rodriguez Alex 5 2005 Martinez Pedro 6 2005 Jeter Derek 7 2005 Garciaparra Nomar 8 2005 Griffey Jr. Ken 9 2005 Piazza Mike 10 2005 Giambi Jason 11 2005 Guerrero Vladimir 12 2005 Jones Chipper 13 2005 Gonzalez Luis 14 2005 Maddux Greg 15 2005 Clemens Roger 16 2005 Schilling Curt 17 2005 Ramirez Manny 18 2005 Alomar Roberto 19 2004 Williams Bernie 20 2005 Sheffield Gary 21 2005 Helton Todd 22 2005 Ishii Kazuhisa 23 2005 Rodriguez Ivan 24 2005 Bagwell Jeff 25 2005 Green Shawn 26 2005 Vaughn Mo 27 2004 Glaus Troy 28 2005 Sasaki Kazuhiro 29 2004 Delgado Carlos 30 2005 Jones Andruw 31 2005 Nomo Hideo 32 2005 Kent Jeff 33 2005 Brown Kevin 34 2005 Shinjo Tsuyoshi 35 2004 Gonzalez Juan 36 2004 Wells David 38 2005 Thomas Frank 39 2005 Glavine Tom 40 2005 Leiter Al 41 2005 Garcia Freddy 42 2005 Palmeiro Rafael 43 2005 Walker Larry 44 2005 Berkman Lance 45 2005 Posada Jorge 46 2005 Ordonez Magglio 47 2005 Soriano Alfonso 48 2005 Boone Bret 49 2005 Mussina Mike 50 2005 Pujols Albert 51 2005 Edmonds Jim 52 2005 Thome Jim 53 2005 Rivera Mariano 54 2005 Alou Moises 55 2005 Abreu Bobby 56 2005 Giles Brian 57 2005 Dye Jermaine 59 2005 Nevin Phil 60 2005 Wood Kerry 61 2005 Morris Matt 62 2005 Chavez Eric 63 2005 Klesko Ryan 64 2005 Damon Johnny 65 2005 Erstad Darin 66 2005 Pettitte Andy 67 2005 Martinez Tino 68 2005 Colon Bartolo 69 2005 Rolen Scott 70 2005 Smoltz John 71 2005 Casey Sean 72 2005 Vizquel Omar 73 2005 Park Chan Ho 74 2005 Lofton Kenny 75 2005 Hoffman Trevor 76 2004 McGriff Fred 77 2004 Sweeney Mike 78 2005 Mesa Jose 79 2005 Alfonzo Edgardo 81 2005 Hasegawa Shigetoshi 82 2004 Aurilia Rich 83 2005 Buehrle Mark 84 2005 Nen Robb 85 2004 Kim Byung-Hyun 86 2005 Mondesi Raul 87 2004 Olerud John 88 2004 Floyd Cliff 89 2005 Kendall Jason 90 2005 Sexson Richie 91 2005 Ohka Tomo 92 2004 Koch Billy 93 2004 Konerko Paul 94 2005 Jordan Brian 95 2004 Cameron Mike 96 2005 Galarraga Andres 97 2004 Drew J.D. 98 2005 Hampton Mike 99 2005 Hunter Torii 100 2005 Wilson Preston 101 2005 Grace Mark 102 2004 Hernandez Orlando 103 2005 Nelson Jeff 104 2004 Biggio Craig 105 2005 Hidalgo Richard 107 2005 Radke Brad 108 2004 Burnitz Jeromy 109 2005 Burrell Pat 110 2005 Vidro Jose 111 2005 Cirillo Jeff 112 2004 Benitez Armando 114 2005 Cruz Jr. Jose 115 2004 Beltran Carlos 116 2005 Hudson Tim 117 2005 Wagner Billy 118 2005 Larkin Barry 119 2005 Vazquez Javier 120 2005 Everett Carl 121 2005 Oswalt Roy 122 2005 Zito Barry 123 2005 Koskie Corey 124 2004 Hernandez Livan 125 2005 Moyer Jamie 126 2005 Stewart Shannon 127 2004 Dunn Adam 128 2005 Tejada Miguel 129 2005 Mulder Mark 130 2005 Isringhausen Jason 131 2005 Rollins Jimmy 133 2005 Taguchi So 135 2004 Lowe Derek 137 2005 Rhodes Arthur 138 2004 Jones Jacque 139 2005 Sheets Ben 140 2005 White Rondell 142 2004 Sabathia C.C. 143 2005 Burks Ellis 144 2004 Burnett A.J. 145 2004 Vina Fernando 146 2004 Renteria Edgar 147 2005 Ramirez Aramis 148 2005 Gagne Eric 150 2005 Durham Ray 151 2004 Weaver Jeff 152 2004 Guzman Cristian 153 2005 Sanders Reggie 154 2005 Castillo Luis 156 2005 Graves Danny 157 2005 Ordonez Rey 158 2004 Long Terrence 159 2004 Anderson Garret 160 2005 Dempster Ryan 163 2004 Lo Duca Paul 164 2004 Santiago Benito 165 2004 Lee Carlos 166 2005 Womack Tony 167 2005 Hillenbrand Shea 168 2004 Karros Eric 170 2004 Guardado Eddie 172 2004 Pierzynski A.J. 173 2004 Hernandez Jose 174 2004 Lowell Mike 175 2005 Jimenez Jose 176 2004 Urbina Ugueth 178 2005 Castilla Vinny 179 2005 Furcal Rafael 180 2005 Lopez Javy 181 2005 Spivey Junior 182 2005 Hernandez Roberto 183 2004 Winn Randy 184 2004 Halladay Roy 186 2005 Yan Esteban 187 2004 Escobar Kelvim 188 2005 Perez Odalis 189 2004 Foulke Keith 190 2005 Fick Robert 191 2004 Alfonseca Antonio 192 2004 Percival Troy 193 2004 Salmon Tim 194 2004 Prior Mark 196 2005 Hinske Eric 197 2005 Williams Woody 198 2005 Lieber Jon 199 2004 Conine Jeff 200 2005 Millwood Kevin 201 2005 Pierre Juan 202 2005 Fullmer Brad 203 2004 Sparks Steve 204 2004 Finley Steve 205 2005 Valentin Jose 206 2005 Finley Chuck 207 2004 Gordon Tom 208 2004 Armas Jr. Tony 209 2004 Grieve Ben 211 2004 Alomar Jr. Sandy 212 2004 Johnson Charles 213 2005 Sele Aaron 214 2004 Varitek Jason 215 2004 Nixon Trot 216 2005 Higginson Bobby 217 2004 Astacio Pedro 218 2004 Dotel Octavio 219 2005 Beltre Adrian 220 2005 Jenkins Geoff 221 2005 Mientkiewicz Doug 222 2005 Reese Pokey 223 2004 Washburn Jarrod 224 2005 Ortiz Ramon 225 2004 Rogers Kenny 226 2004 Jennings Jason 227 2005 Schmidt Jason 228 2005 Durazo Erubiel 229 2005 Wells Kip 230 2004 Lopez Rodrigo 231 2004 Contreras Jose 232 2005 Matsui Hideki 233 2005 Wells Vernon 234 2005 Willis Dontrelle 235 2005 Loaiza Esteban 236 2005 Boone Aaron 237 2004 Mora Melvin 238 2005 Giles Marcus 239 2005 Ortiz Russ 240 2005 Spiezio Scott 241 2005 Eckstein David 242 2005 Kennedy Adam 243 2005 Reynolds Shane 244 2004 Gibbons Jay 245 2004 Wakefield Tim 246 2005 Patterson Corey 247 2004 Clement Matt 248 2005 Bradley Milton 249 2005 Payton Jay 250 2004 Chacon Shawn 251 2004 Young Dmitri 252 2005 Encarnacion Juan 253 2005 Gonzalez Alex 254 2004 Lee Derrek 255 2004 Penny Brad 256 2005 Beckett Josh 257 2005 Looper Braden 258 2005 Ibanez Raul 259 2004 Berroa Angel 260 2004 MacDougal Mike 261 2004 Cabrera Orlando 263 2005 Polanco Placido 264 2004 Wolf Randy 265 2005 Bell David 266 2004 Johnson Nick 267 2004 Sierra Ruben 268 2005 Pineiro Joel 270 2005 Baldelli Rocco 271 2005 Blalock Hank 272 2005 Batista Miguel 273 2005 Webb Brandon 274 2005 Cintron Alex 275 2005 Ramirez Horacio 276 2004 Mueller Bill 277 2005 Suppan Jeff 278 2004 Borowski Joe 279 2004 Marte Damaso 280 2004 Bonderman Jeremy 281 2004 Redman Mark 282 2004 Ensberg Morgan 283 2005 Robertson Jeriome 284 2004 Lima Jose 285 2004 Guiel Aaron 286 2004 May Darrell 287 2004 Biddle Rocky 288 2004 Reyes Jose 289 2005 Dellucci David 290 2004 Harden Rich 291 2004 Guillen Jose 292 2005 Byrnes Eric 293 2004 Lilly Ted 294 2005 Beck Rod 295 2004 Ponson Sidney 296 2005 Worrell Tim 297 2004 Williams Jerome 298 2004 Meche Gil 299 2004 Franklin Ryan 300 2004 Appier Kevin 301 2004 Molina Bengie 302 2004 Rodriguez Francisco 303 2005 Weber Ben 304 2004 Bautista Danny 305 2005 Counsell Craig 306 2005 Overbay Lyle 307 2005 Dessens Elmer 308 2004 Mantei Matt 309 2004 Byrd Paul 310 2004 Bong Jung 311 2004 Cordova Marty 312 2004 Matthews Jr. Gary 313 2004 Cruz Deivi 314 2004 Hairston Jr. Jerry 315 2004 Daal Omar 316 2004 Segui David 317 2004 Julio Jorge 318 2004 Walker Todd 320 2004 Ortiz David 321 2005 Bellhorn Mark 323 2005 Gonzalez Alex S. 324 2005 Grudzielanek Mark 325 2004 Estes Shawn 326 2004 Choi Hee Seop 327 2005 Crede Joe 328 2004 Kearns Austin 329 2005 Williamson Scott 330 2004 Lawton Matt 331 2005 Phillips Brandon 332 2004 Blake Casey 333 2004 Anderson Brian 334 2004 Baez Danys 335 2005 Stynes Chris 336 2004 Belliard Ron 337 2004 Neagle Denny 338 2004 Munson Eric 339 2004 Sanchez Alex 341 2004 Maroth Mike 343 2004 Hollandsworth Todd 344 2004 Miller Wade 346 2005 Tucker Michael 348 2004 Harvey Ken 352 2005 Roberts Dave 353 2004 Cora Alex 354 2005 Izturis Cesar 355 2004 Helms Wes 356 2004 Clayton Royce 357 2004 Young Eric 358 2004 Vander Wal John 359 2004 Rivas Luis 360 2004 Mays Joe 361 2004 LeCroy Matt 362 2004 Wilkerson Brad 363 2004 Wigginton Ty 365 2004 Seo Jae Weong 367 2004 Hatteberg Scott 370 2004 Hernandez Ramon 371 2004 Byrd Marlon 372 2004 Padilla Vicente 373 2004 Lieberthal Mike 374 2005 Wilson Jack 375 2004 Simon Randall 376 2004 Benson Kris 377 2004 Stairs Matt 378 2004 Kotsay Mark 379 2005 Burroughs Sean 380 2005 Vazquez Ramon 381 2004 Loretta Mark 382 2004 Nady Xavier 383 2004 Lawrence Brian 384 2004 Perez Oliver 385 2005 Eaton Adam 386 2004 Grissom Marquis 387 2005 Snow J.T. 388 2004 Rueter Kirk 389 2004 Perez Neifi 391 2004 Guillen Carlos 392 2005 Wilson Dan 393 2004 Matheny Mike 394 2004 Tomko Brett 395 2004 Crawford Carl 396 2005 Huff Aubrey 398 2004 Kennedy Joe 399 2005 Zambrano Victor 400 2005 Carter Lance 401 2004 Anderson Marlon 402 2004 Teixeira Mark 404 2005 Thomson John 405 2004 Valdez Ismael 406 2005 Catalanotto Frank 407 2004 Phelps Josh 410 2005 Myers Greg 411 2004 Matsui Kazuo 412 2005 Bench Johnny 413 2005 Fisk Carlton 414 2005 Eckersley Dennis 415 2005 Mantle Mickey 416 2005 Williams Ted 417 2005 Ruth Babe 421 2005 Robinson Jackie 422 2005 Gehrig Lou 423 2005 Young Cy 424 2004 Cobb Ty 425 2004 Jackson Reggie 426 2005 Ryan Nolan 427 2005 Schmidt Mike 428 2005 Paige Satchel 429 2004 Berra Yogi 430 2004 Gibson Bob 431 2005 Brock Lou 432 2004 Johnson Walter 433 2004 Fingers Rollie 434 2004 McCovey Willie 435 2004 Wagner Honus 436 2005 Morgan Joe 437 2005 Killebrew Harmon 438 2004 Feller Bob 439 2004 Yount Robin 440 2005 Foxx Jimmie 441 2004 Carew Rod 442 2005 Seaver Tom 443 2004 Robinson Brooks 444 2005 Spahn Warren 445 2004 Perry Gaylord 446 2004 Jenkins Ferguson 447 2004 Stargell Willie 449 2004 Campanella Roy 450 2004 Mathews Eddie 451 2004 Hunter Catfish 452 2005 Reese Pee Wee 453 2004 Palmer Jim 454 2005 Niekro Phil 455 2004 Marichal Juan 456 2004 Kaline Al 458 2004 Cepeda Orlando 459 2004 Aparicio Luis 460 2004 Lasorda Tommy 461 2004 Anderson Sparky 462 2004 Torre Joe 463 2005 Baker Dusty 464 2004 LaRussa Tony 465 2004 Piniella Lou 466 2005 Cox Bobby 467 2005 Showalter Buck 471 2004 Pena Tony 473 2004 Little Grady 474 2004 Melvin Bob 475 2004 Gardenhire Ron 476 2004 Bochy Bruce 477 2004 McClendon Lloyd 478 2004 Tracy Jim 481 2004 Macha Ken 482 2004 Hurdle Clint 483 2004 Yost Ned 484 2004 Scioscia Mike 485 2005 Mazzilli Lee 486 2005 Francona Terry 487 2005 Guillen Ozzie 488 2005 Miley Dave 489 2005 Wedge Eric 490 2005 McKeon Jack 491 2005 Trammell Alan 492 2005 Robinson Frank 493 2005 Alou Felipe 494 2005 Garner Phil 495 2005 Gibbons John 496 2005 Hargrove Mike 497 2005 Randolph Willie 498 2005 Manuel Charlie 499 2005 Mauer Joe 512 2005 Zambrano Carlos 513 2005 Cabrera Miguel 514 2005 Podsednik Scott 515 2005 Santana Johan 516 2005 Takatsu Shingo 517 2005 Young Michael 518 2005 DeRosa Mark 519 2005 Milton Eric 520 2005 Johnson Jason 521 2005 Hudson Orlando 522 2005 Marquis Jason 523 2005 Pavano Carl 524 2005 Ford Lew 525 2005 Holliday Matt 526 2005 Hafner Travis 527 2005 Mackowiak Rob 528 2005 Otsuka Akinori 529 2005 Robertson Nate 530 2005 Westbrook Jake 531 2005 Martinez Victor 532 2005 Affeldt Jeremy 533 2005 Clark Tony 534 2005 Nathan Joe 535 2005 Peavy Jake 537 2005 Crosby Bobby 538 2005 Cairo Miguel 539 2005 Hawkins LaTroy 540 2005 Everett Adam 541 2005 Uribe Juan 542 2005 Wilson Craig 543 2005 Kolb Danny 544 2005 Gerut Jody 545 2005 Johnson Reed 546 2005 Estrada Johnny 547 2005 Bay Jason 548 2005 Carpenter Chris 549 2005 Lee Cliff 550 2005 Greinke Zack 551 2005 Cordero Francisco 552 2005 Feliz Pedro 553 2005 Pena Wily Mo 555 2005 Greene Khalil 556 2005 Lidge Brad 557 2005 Wright Jaret 563 2005 Morneau Justin 564 2005 Bigbie Larry 565 2005 Nix Laynce 566 2005 Phillips Jason 567 2005 Rowand Aaron 569 2005 Trachsel Steve 570 2005 Broussard Ben 581 2005 Francis Jeff 603 2005 Kazmir Scott 604 2005 Wright David 605 2005 Swisher Nick 606 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thanks Kraw, I got my work cut out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 This will be interesting...me and Soriano are coming out with a new models.big as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 KG, would you mind if I used my models.big for your roster file as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Heck, if you want to do that, we might as well combine forces here. We've got permission to use all the cyberfaces we need already, and I can guarantee you we'll get this done faster if we work together. It's only me and SS working on ours, but it looks like you've got a few people helping you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 The more the merrier! I also have KC's and bigbully's permission to use thier unis, I am still waiting for a response from Spungo and a few others for accessories...trying to cover all fields here. But what do you think of the layout of the numbers? Do you think it would be better to organize them in the way I mentioned before? The thing Kraw posted helped a lot, I think taking that route would make it easier for us as well as people using the models.big and the excel sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 We weren't planning on having any uniforms, etc. involved; it is just going to be a collection of faces with a spreadsheet to minimize size. That's the one thing I don't like about your idea; giving each team 30 slots is unreasonable, especially since some teams deserve more/less than that. Also, managers would need to be included. Even though I personally don't want manager faces in there, most people would, I'm guessing. And I doubt all the faces that will need to be made will actually be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 I think we should do that as a preliminary, and then move on from there, taking and giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The way we were going to do it was like this: I've kept an accurate (or so I think) spreadsheet of faces ever since UR 6.4 came out. Our models.big would keep most of the same face numbers as shmooz's models, with a few exceptions. However, I do like the idea of starting from scratch and having a separate set of numbers for each team, although it will take substantially longer to get that done than just working off of shmooz's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 I think it would be better to contrast from Shmooz, a more unique and organized fashion to it (no offense to Shmooz). And if we were to do this, should we release two different models.big's? As in one that just has the cyberface updates, and another that has the cyberfaces and unis and accessories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Well, the only reason we would keep things the same is because it'd take a lot less time. Having 2 is how it would have to be, I would think. I don't want to speak for Soriano, but I know I want to leave unis and accessories out of it, and if I remember right, he does too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Then I guess 2 it is. And if it is that much work, I am willing to change the face numbers myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 That's the one thing I don't like about your idea; giving each team 30 slots is unreasonable, especially since some teams deserve more/less than that. Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hory Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I've always thought it was a needless waste of bandwidth to include the uniforms, if people want the latest unis, they can just download KC's 2x or 1x uniform pack and install it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I still have to run this by him, so don't schedule anything just yet. I'm going to be pretty busy this offseason, implementing a totally new contract system for my roster and then compiling a models.big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thanks Kraw, I got my work cut out for me. Not really if every does their part you should have very little to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 lol Kraw. I hope this works out, it's shaping up good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hory Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 As for renumbering all the default faces, you'll run into problems for a face like Johnny Damon's (65) which has a hair file attached to that face id As well as the unique home run celebrations like David Ortiz which are tagged to the cyberface and portrait id of the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Why Clearly, the Royals or DRays deserve less slots than the Yanks or Red Sox. Bigger names/better players deserve the slots. Plus, I like big name prospects to have faces rather than washed up, useless MLB players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 But the Rays are loaded with prospects, they might need more faces. Plus, I would also like players that are on the ML level and are likely to be there for some time deserve faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav3rek Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Clearly, the Royals or DRays deserve less slots than the Yanks or Red Sox. Bigger names/better players deserve the slots. Plus, I like big name prospects to have faces rather than washed up, useless MLB players. i thought part of the whole point in doing this is fairness to each and every MLB team. Giving the Yankees or Red Sox more than the Royals or D-Rays makes it unfair to those teams. Believe it or not, there are some fans of those teams around here. This way every team is equal, and it works out for everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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