brutushayesosu Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 So Im sitting here watching CNN and listening to the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez called Bush the Devil and that the US is a declining empire and will soon be gone. I watched the Iranian President give his speech last night and he never went as far as this guy. What I want to get started here is a discussion on what everyone thinks will happen in the coming the months and years. Do you all think that there will truly be a WWIII? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoop27 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 only history will decide what "WW3" is. hell we could be in it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogar84 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 No. Behind all this "tough talk" is a complex diplomatic process. But the scariest thing about this is that the Iranian president is a holocaust denier and Chavez is some corrupt thug trying to blackmail the U.S. with oil. There wont be WWIII. Besides Al Gore has already said the world will end in 10 years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred13 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 If you havn't seen "An Inconvenient Truth", go watch it right now. Great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogar84 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Another thing too, France has already opposed sanctions against Iran- as does Russia and China. Which means Iran can do whatever the hell they want- build up nukes and wipe Israel off the map since Europeans have no problem with that. Even if Bush wanted to stop this, he has no power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padres67 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Gore is a liar-he only prints the truth as he sees it. He isnt a scientist. He is an egomaniac who cant get over the fact that he lost. We are in world war 3 guys-the islamofascists want us to convert or they will cut our heads off. Chavez is a socialistic dictator who grants very few freedoms-and he thinks Bush is the devil-he will meet the real devil when he dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 If you havn't seen "An Inconvenient Truth", go watch it right now. Great movie. Yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Gore is a liar-he only prints the truth as he sees it. He isnt a scientist. Well the movie is full of scientists who all agree with him. If is just too bad he did not have balls like this when he was running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Another thing too, France has already opposed sanctions against Iran- as does Russia and China. Which means Iran can do whatever the hell they want- build up nukes and wipe Israel off the map since Europeans have no problem with that. Even if Bush wanted to stop this, he has no power. Well he could go against the UN's wishes and start an illegal war, Oh wait he has already done that once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metlover22 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 World War III will be the end of the world It doesent say world war III in the bible but the whole world will fight against China and Russia Politics bug me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 people using religion when talking politics bugs me W.T.F. ever happened to separation between church and state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleMo Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 If you havn't seen "An Inconvenient Truth", go watch it right now. Great movie. It's an inconvenient time right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hory Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Iran is at least ten years away from having an actual nuclear weapon, Israel has had them since the 70s, so I think MAD means they're fairly safe no matter how many times the West willingly misquotes Iran's leader to ramp up fear.. And if it's ok for Pakistan (a military dictatorship that happens to be a US ally and has more ties to Al Qaeda than Iran) to have nuclear weapons, then I don't see how Iran should get treated differently.. It''s funny how no-one gives a crap that North Korea has nukes, I guess not having oil in your country makes you less of an "imminent threat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleMo Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 World War III will be the end of the world It doesent say world war III in the bible but the whole world will fight against China and Russia Politics bug me Which bible have you been reading? There could be a WW9. Then again there could never be a WW6. And, to be honest, it is the whole world against Isreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoop27 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Iran is at least ten years away from having an actual nuclear weapon, Israel has had them since the 70s, so I think MAD means they're fairly safe no matter how many times the West willingly misquotes Iran's leader to ramp up fear.. And if it's ok for Pakistan (a military dictatorship that happens to be a US ally and has more ties to Al Qaeda than Iran) to have nuclear weapons, then I don't see how Iran should get treated differently.. It''s funny how no-one gives a crap that North Korea has nukes, I guess not having oil in your country makes you less of an "imminent threat" I think the only reason North Korea has faded from the radar a bit, was that their big missle test ended up looking like a Rick Ankiel slider and no one was going to buy the "immenent threat" thing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhath Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 how long till the guy issues an apology? i say tomorrow morning... also, just because some scientist backs up gore, doesnt mean hes right... and i highly doubt gore would make a movie full of respected scientists that disagree with him... cmon... like either party doesnt do propaganda... thats ignorant... also, its separation OF church and state. Not separation FROM church and state... AND... its not actually in the constitution.... most people have a lot of trouble understanding that concept, which might explain why we're at where were at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brutushayesosu Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Its just insane how a world leader can go in front of the world, in the United Nations, and call the US president the devil and make threats that the US "empire" will soon be gone. He obviously wants to be main voice against the US. What Iran is trying to do is delay any sanctions being placed on them by playing the 'god created us all, we are all brothers'- card. Meanwhile, the Pope uses the wrong language and upsets Muslims. Like they needed anymore motivation. Your right in saying that WWIII will only be labeled after the fact or during, but it seems to me that the World is building to something. Maybe WIII will take the form of a 20+ year war that consists of terrorist attacks all over the place. All I know is that there will be a day that all the freedoms we enjoy in the United States will be attacked. 9/11 Im afraid to say might be the tip of the iceberg. I havent seen Gore's movie. I did see a doc. called, Why We Fight. It refers to Eisenhower's warning of the Military Industrial Complex. Think Halliburton in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdewals Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 all I want to know: if there is going to be a holy war.....are the non-believers left out?? I dont really feel like dying for or because of something I dont believe in. esspecially religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brutushayesosu Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 I agree with that! Im not a religous person, nor do I criticize those who are. I believe in evolution more than spontanious creation and that if you believe there's a god, then you might as well believe in ghosts, alien abductions, etc. I think that those who are suicide bombers or fight on behalf of their religion are also showering once a week, have no car, job, electricity, and love life. They no nothing else but their relgion and are willing to die for it because their life otherwise would be dismal and not worth living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoCubs720 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I think the only reason North Korea has faded from the radar a bit, was that their big missle test ended up looking like a Rick Ankiel slider and no one was going to buy the "immenent threat" thing with them. since North Korea's arm seems shot, maybe he'll convert to an outfielder and rot away in the minor leagues :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleMo Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 all I want to know: if there is going to be a holy war.....are the non-believers left out?? I dont really feel like dying for or because of something I dont believe in. esspecially religions. What a great thought to be honest. Never thought of this that way. Sadly, the US is not mentioned in the bible at all, just those nations which are immediately by Isreal. My personal opinion, which is only an opinion, is that the US will find it hard to stomach backing Isreal any longer, at which point I think, no know, the weheels will be in motion for all nations to rise against Israel. I guesse it isn't a holy war if all nations rise against one. Unless it becomes "we all hate, jews, lets go get Israel." Which is hard to believe. Myabe the Jews will try to be removed from Israel, Isreal will fight back, and all other nations will assist in fighting Israel or trying to calm things down. This is all opinion. I'm no Mostrodomeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdewals Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Isreal is using WW2 and other things in their past as an "excuse" to get away with everything. If you even dare to say something bad about their actions, for example: Libanon, they brand you as jew-haters right away. What happend in WW2 is very wrong, lets not forget that......but you'd expect Isreal to do what their (former) enemies did to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyNguyen Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Whoever said that Chavez is a socialist dictator, where did you get that? Chavez was elected OVERWHELMINGLY by the poor majority of Venezuela. The largest disparities in income are in Latin America, Chavez is viewed very favorably in Latin America for his opposition to Multi-national corporate control and the horrendous trade agreements (NAFTA) that wrestle control and freedoms from the public and ensure profits for private interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahjazzno12fan Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Yeah... Chavez is not socialist dictator... He is an elected socialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metlover22 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Which bible have you been reading? There could be a WW9. Then again there could never be a WW6. And, to be honest, it is the whole world against Isreal. i didnt know what i was saying i meant that the Euprates will dry up and a major army (China will cross0 its in Revelations That will be World War 3 just fixing what i said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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