Pitching Question

[michaeljjt]

Before any of you gentlemen get your panties in a bunch, I did use the search function. I searched for "pitching" "pitching balls" and "walks", and got pages and pages of topics that had nothing to do with what I'm looking for.

MVP 06 Mod. Using MaddiesDaddy's datafile (include all the pitching changes) Pitch Meter: varied from +5 to -15. User Control varied from -6 to -30.

Basically the issue: I do not throw balls. The green area of the pitch meter is minute, or non-existant depending on pitch thrown and pitcher. When I miss with a pitch, 75% of the time I miss IN the strike zone.

This is not a complaint about difficulty. I want it to be difficult. But I'm getting frustrated that I'm giving up hits and not walks.

Strikeouts are not an issue: averaging 7.8 per game. Averaging about 10 hit per 9 innings given up. So that is fine also.

I want to throw more pitches outside the strikezone, in hopes I will actually walk people. Instead of missing in the strikezone and seeing a nice big red or big blue circle pop up for a fat pitch. Is there any way that anyone know this can be accomplished? Or am I stuck missing pitches, just the way I dont want to be missing them? :)

[catzrthecoolest]

you want to walk people?!

[tebjr]

you want to walk people?!

It does add some realism to the game.

[michaeljjt]

you want to walk people?!

Yes. I really dont want to pitch 200 Innings with say...Jaret Wright, who in real life does not have great control, and end up with only about 5 walks.

The season I played before the 06 mod came out, despite all the pitching mods, I think I walked 100-150 batters all season. I KNOW it was definitly less than 1 per game.

[catzrthecoolest]

well... it is too easy to not walk anybody... i think I've only walked 2 people.... ever....

[ronmexico]

Well, if its the bar, you can make the bar bigger, decrease the hitters swinging tendencies and throw more balls. The first two are edited in the datafile, and the 3rd in your own mind. If you are asking what I think you are, then that is the answer, elsewise, explain it again in smaller words for idiots like me. :D

[ronmexico]

I can send you mine, and I can edit it a bit if you wish. PM me about that if you want it.

[AcousticNut]

I fixed this by jacking up the CPUs hitter and power ratings, forcing me to work the edges and corners. Anything that found the middle of the plate would get jacked. That kept me on the outer fringes of the plate and led to more walks.

[michaeljjt]

I fixed this by jacking up the CPUs hitter and power ratings, forcing me to work the edges and corners. Anything that found the middle of the plate would get jacked. That kept me on the outer fringes of the plate and led to more walks.

I understand what you are saying, but thats exactly what I do. If I aim off the plate though, and I miss green/orange area of the pitch meter, the ball still ends up sailing over the plate, and its just fat.

I never ever purposefully aim down the middle, unless im 3-0. I always aim just on/off the corners. Im talking about what happens when I "miss" my spots.

[Jim825]

Just out of curiosity, do you have the strike zone or cold / hot zones turned on? What about the pitch cursor? Are you using a controller or the keyboard?

[michaeljjt]

Just out of curiosity, do you have the strike zone or cold / hot zones turned on? What about the pitch cursor? Are you using a controller or the keyboard?

Controller, strike zone off, cursor off, hot/cold zones off.

I swear Im doing everything in my power to make it more difficult

Im going to lower the user pitcher control all the way down to -50 tonight to see if that helps at all. But based on previous attempts, I do not think its going to make much of a difference.

[JoshC77]

I can kinda relate to this sort of problem. On a “good†day, I will get 2 or 3 walks for a game. Usually, when my timing is off though, I wind up throwing more fat pitches over the plate than balls, even if I try to “nibbleâ€. Now, I have never tried the datafile that you are using, but I AM curious if you have tried the default MVP ’06 datafile? The margin for error there is miniscule for even the best control pitchers.

[Jim825]

I can kinda relate to this sort of problem. On a “good” day, I will get 2 or 3 walks for a game. Usually, when my timing is off though, I wind up throwing more fat pitches over the plate than balls, even if I try to “nibble”. Now, I have never tried the datafile that you are using, but I AM curious if you have tried the default MVP ’06 datafile? The margin for error there is miniscule for even the best control pitchers.

The datafile the MaddiesDaddy created and the default MVP '06 datafile both use Spitoon's strikeout fix and SerialMike's walk fix to reduce the margin of error on the pitch meter.

[michaeljjt]

The datafile the MaddiesDaddy created and the default MVP '06 datafile both use Spitoon's strikeout fix and SerialMike's walk fix to reduce the margin of error on the pitch meter.

And of course, without this fix....you never miss at all...you can just throw strike after strike after strike...with no "fat" pitches.

Mike

[closetogenius]

personally, i prefer my 2-4 walks per pitcher's season. well, All-star it's less, but that's off set bymore HRs allowed and far less strikeouts, and i cry looking at my stats on MVP.

u've tried harder difficulties yes?

but if u must, the best advice i can give is just lower your control sliders and lower the cpu swing frequency, and mess with the foul ball frequency

i have yet to find a datafile i truly like and aside from that i don't know which would be best for you

[michaeljjt]

personally, i prefer my 2-4 walks per pitcher's season. well, All-star it's less, but that's off set bymore HRs allowed and far less strikeouts, and i cry looking at my stats on MVP.

u've tried harder difficulties yes?

but if u must, the best advice i can give is just lower your control sliders and lower the cpu swing frequency, and mess with the foul ball frequency

i have yet to find a datafile i truly like and aside from that i don't know which would be best for you

Ive tried Pro and All Star. And Foul Balls are always at 50, CPU Swing Frequency is a ridiculous -48 (this has been anywhere from -10 to -48) and User Control at -30. I am going to lower that last one to -50 and see what happens, But I fear I will just be missing more within the strike zone.

The fact is, I'm going for realism, or as close as I can get. Im not trying to trade one stat for another. Right now I end up giving up more hits than normal, because so many pitches are landing right in the middle of the plate. Not that I am struggling with pitching....But no pitcher hangs as many pitches as I see hung.

[michaeljjt]

For anyone remotely interested in the results (based on the responses to the thread, those few of you)

I lowered my user pitch control all the way down to -50. Its *slightly* better, but no where near ideal. I am throwing more balls in general now, but the walk count still isn't there.

I am encouraged by the amount of times I had 3 balls on a batter though, So at some point hopefully I will start slipping up and actually throwing ball 4. Again...its not ideal. I still find myself missing too many times within the strikezone. But I think its about the best I am going to get.

Mike