Michael Irvin GONE from ESPN! Finally! and Monk/Irvin debate

[duckdodger215]

Details here. No information is given. I'm guessing cocaine/crack, again.

He's an absolute waste of space. His induction into the HOF is also a joke since Art Monk isn't even in.

[evil1182]

Yea, this guy is a joke, all that money and fame and he's a crack head, for them to let him in the HOF is like letting Pete Rose in the Baseball HOF.

[BigDom]

He used ESPN as attention to get into the HOF, no doubt he was a great player.... but not better than Art Monk.3

EDIT-- here is another link saying they couldn't come up with a contract.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/16724648.htm

[sblime4u]

Yea, this guy is a joke, all that money and fame and he's a crack head, for them to let him in the HOF is like letting Pete Rose in the Baseball HOF.

irvin tried to get his nephew to smoke crack with him; pete rose gambled. its not the same.

[duckdodger215]

He used ESPN as attention to get into the HOF, no doubt he was a great player.... but not better than Art Monk.3

EDIT-- here is another link saying they couldn't come up with a contract.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/16724648.htm

let's compare, then:

Art Monk: 940 catches... 12,721 receiving... 68 TD's... 3 Super Bowl Rings

Michael Irvin: 750 catches... 11,904 receiving... 65 TD's... 3 Super Bowl Rings

hmmm... looks like someone has an edge over the other, here. I guess if Art Monk were to get in trouble with the law every year or so and run his mouth nonstop, then he would be elected. Instead, he kept his mouth shut and played the game.

[lautrec]

I honestly don't know one person who actually likes Irvin as a reporter. As a matter of fact, he is detested almost as much as old "Gravel in my Mouth, Bronco Homie" Shannon Sharpe. It is pure ignorance on the part of the NFL HOF to put Irvin in without Monk being there. Lunacy.

[medric822]

At first, I thought this was the one guy from Mike and Mike in the Morning, you know, the skinny guy. It seems that lately he hasn't bee on, but I only watch this show like once or twice a week.

[golfguy10]

I had to turn on closed caption so I could understand what the hell he is saying. At times he is pretty insightful but what a terrible example for young kids from a 'mastering the english language' perspective.

Good comparison on Monk's stats - Art Monk just played his as off, behaved as a professional and never flaunted his success when he had it.

The NFL like all other great organizations will decline as cater to the dopers - the Sean Merriman example is a perfect case.

Anyway, Irwin will probably end up on the NFL network.

[oxbay]

let's compare, then:

Art Monk: 940 catches... 12,721 receiving... 68 TD's... 3 Super Bowl Rings

Michael Irvin: 750 catches... 11,904 receiving... 65 TD's... 3 Super Bowl Rings

hmmm... looks like someone has an edge over the other, here. I guess if Art Monk were to get in trouble with the law every year or so and run his mouth nonstop, then he would be elected. Instead, he kept his mouth shut and played the game.

Hey duck, those numbers are deceiving. Monk played 16 years while Irvin played 12. In essence, one could say that Irvin had a better career.

Compare Monk's first 12 years to Irvin's 12 years:

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Art Monk: 801 catches... 10,984 receiving... 60 TD's

Michael Irvin: 750 catches... 11,904 receiving... 65 TD's[/ol]

It is clear how some could say Irvin was the better receiver. But throw in some drug charges and fans will think he is undeserving.

[duckdodger215]

the biggest number there is # of catches. Clearly Monk had more. He played when the running game was the key to success. Irvin played during the transition to the 'big play pass'. I'd take a player who catches more passes any day than one who has a few more TD's and yards.

Not to mention that Monk had to share receptions with Gary Carter and Ricky Sanders, even.