pitching style

[SESbb30]

when i started throwing off a mound this year i was 3 quarters to sidearm, only being able to throw a 4 seamer that moved a crapload with average controll, a crappy splitter, and a crappy change-up. but a few weeks ago, i changed to over the top, now i throw about 2-3 mph faster with better controll and now my 4 seamer doesnt move a millimeter, and my other pitches are a curve 1-7 my best pitch, not a ton of movement but very good movement, sharp and late, a slider with average movement 2-8, a pitchfork change that drops about 2 feet when it gets 15 feet away from the plate, about 15 mph taken off of it, and a straight change that i sometimes will throw from 3 quarters to give the hitter a different look, moves exactly like dice-k's change. nasty. so, should i stick with over the top? im crazy if i dont. :toothless:

[ronmexico]

I don't see why not. It seems like the thing to do if you are pitching better indeed.

[superciuc]

when i started throwing off a mound this year i was 3 quarters to sidearm, only being able to throw a 4 seamer that moved a crapload with average controll, a crappy splitter, and a crappy change-up. but a few weeks ago, i changed to over the top, now i throw about 2-3 mph faster with better controll and now my 4 seamer doesnt move a millimeter, and my other pitches are a curve 1-7 my best pitch, not a ton of movement but very good movement, sharp and late, a slider with average movement 2-8, a pitchfork change that drops about 2 feet when it gets 15 feet away from the plate, about 15 mph taken off of it, and a straight change that i sometimes will throw from 3 quarters to give the hitter a different look, moves exactly like dice-k's change. nasty. so, should i stick with over the top? im crazy if i dont. :toothless:

Do you mean the changeup with the screwball motion? Well, that is from what i know, a gyroball. Do you trow that on purpose?

[kgbaseball]

Many changeups have a natural screwball motion, it just depends on how you grip it.

[medric822]

There is no such thing as a gyro ball!

[JP_Frost]

I used to have a submarine delivery and threw about 97 MPH with cutting movement. I also threw a hammer knuckle curve at about 83 MPH and a 91 MPH biting slider. Had pin point command of all these pitches, as i struck out 63 in 32 innings and walked just 2. This all happened when I was 12 years old, but I just decided that it wasn't fun striking everybody out anymore so I quit baseball, gained weight and grew an addiction for porn and cigarettes (hi medric!)

[superciuc]

Many changeups have a natural screwball motion, it just depends on how you grip it.

Yes, but there are some morons (Joe Morgan) that call it gyroball. That change with screwball motion is Matsusaka's "gyroball".

[59FIFTY]

lol!

But stick to the over the top;)

[medric822]

I never had velocity, nor control, nor any good pitches besides the splitter. Maybe thats why I never pitched in High school.

[superciuc]

I've very good control on my pitches :i have a 4-seamer, a 2-seamer, a curveball, a change-up, a circle change-up, a splitter and i'm mastering the palmball and the knuckleball.

Anyway, the only time i tried to throw sidearm i hit 3 batters out of 5.

You should stick with the over the top. If you pitch all this pitches corretly is great.

For being a pitcher you should have: a good 85-90 MPH fastball, a good off-speed pitch (change-up, circle change-up, palmball), a good breaking ball (curveball or slider) and a good 2 seamer.

If you are a good pitcher you should have another pitch (forkball, splitter, sinker) or 2 breaking balls.

For being an excellent pitcher you should have: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 pitches, it doesn't matter, never let the hitters hit your pitches.

[SESbb30]

when i threw the straight change, the batters were way out in front and the ball was 6 inches away from the tip of the bat, made them look foolish.

[SESbb30]

it spins almost sideways when i throw it, i just angle my wrist to the side a little bit, and nothing else, and it looks like a fastball until it drops off down and away from a righty, it is very sharp movement, sharper than my curve.

[superciuc]

when i threw the straight change, the batters were way out in front and the ball was 6 inches away from the tip of the bat, made them look foolish.

It's a good thing. Do you have a good breaking ball?

[SESbb30]

decent, two different curves, same speed, except one breaks more than the other, the one that breaks more isnt as sharp as the smaller one, i throw the bigger curve to righties, and the smaller curve to lefties, almost like a slider, they are very confused when they try to hit it. also scarred the crap out of some of the freshmen with it, ha ha!

[superciuc]

And the fastball? It has to be very fast.

[SESbb30]

its fast when hell's frozen over! its not fast, but not super slow. around 70-73. sometimes touching 75 or more.

[superciuc]

Splitter, forkball, sinker, something like this?

[SESbb30]

2 seamer, really, more than a sinker. pretty good movement.

[NY-City]

In general over the top is the most acurate and hardest throwing armslot for a pitcher but its really preferance. If you feel comfortable and more effective from over the top than why not stick to it.

[superciuc]

Good. You have a 2 seamer, 4 seamer, curveball, change up: Can you throw something like a slider, knucklecurve or palmball?

[SESbb30]

a slider, and once every blue moon a cutter. but the slider looks like the cutter, thats why i dont throw those very much, plus, they move about the same too. except the slider moves down instead of straigh across.

[SESbb30]

i think im gonna try to go to a ju-co, and then try to make a jump to d-1, this season i have a 1.50 era in 25 innings pitched. does anyone think this is possible for a slow thrower.

[ronmexico]

D1 with a 70mph fastball? Is that plausible?

[NY-City]

Idk man D1 hitter meet 70 mph fastball = bad news for you

id try to ask around and get an idea where your at before you sign up for a Junior college

[Lucas]

Matsuzaka does not throw a gyroball. He throws something called the "Shutto". It moves like a reverse slider. You hold it like a 2Seam and rotate your wrist opposite the way you would when throwing a curveball. A Gyroball is an enhanced curveball. It breaks the same way and then some.

By the way, stick with over the top. I switched from sidearm a few years ago, and i have benefited greatly from it, control wise and movement wise.