ThaHustla Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Would anyone consider this PC a "good buy" for gaming? Please Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59FIFTY Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Its too expensive for what you get at least get a dual core processor(don't matter which brand but i preffer intel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicMan Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 A 7300GT is not a gamer card... For 850$, might as well build yourself one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaHustla Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 Its too expensive for what you get at least get a dual core processor(don't matter which brand but i preffer intel) Thank You. Forgive me if I've heard incorrectly, but aren't AMD processors better for gaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaHustla Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 A 7300GT is not a gamer card... For 850$, might as well build yourself one. What is the best gamer card on the market?, and would I be better off with just a single video card, or 2 video cards using SLI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsFan1983 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Forgive me if I've heard incorrectly, but aren't AMD processors better for gaming? The AMD Athlon chips were the dominant gaming processors for the past two years. The new Intel Core 2 Duo chips have a vast performance increase. The only AMD chips that compete now are the ones in the mid to budget price range, Intel is the high end performance king for now. What is the best gamer card on the market?, and would I be better off with just a single video card, or 2 video cards using SLI? SLI is not supported for all games, many yes, but not all. SLI is really meant for that person with money burning a whole in their pocket and they want the absolute best performance. If you had a budget of $400 for a video card purchase, the performance would tend to be better with the one $400 higher series card than two $200 lower series cards in SLI. What is the best gamer card on the market? It really depends on what you're playing. If it's just MVP, any Nvida card 7600 or above would easily meet those needs, for ATI x1900 or above will serve just fine. However with new DirectX 10 games coming out, you would need a Dx10 card to support those features. If you only play MVP or older games, don't worry about it, because they won't get any improvements from it. If you want a gaming machine for future games, it would be better to get a Dx10 video card, problem is there are no Dx10 games to test performance on at the moment. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaHustla Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 The AMD Athlon chips were the dominant gaming processors for the past two years. The new Intel Core 2 Duo chips have a vast performance increase. The only AMD chips that compete now are the ones in the mid to budget price range, Intel is the high end performance king for now. SLI is not supported for all games, many yes, but not all. SLI is really meant for that person with money burning a whole in their pocket and they want the absolute best performance. If you had a budget of $400 for a video card purchase, the performance would tend to be better with the one $400 higher series card than two $200 lower series cards in SLI. What is the best gamer card on the market? It really depends on what you're playing. If it's just MVP, any Nvida card 7600 or above would easily meet those needs, for ATI x1900 or above will serve just fine. However with new DirectX 10 games coming out, you would need a Dx10 card to support those features. If you only play MVP or older games, don't worry about it, because they won't get any improvements from it. If you want a gaming machine for future games, it would be better to get a Dx10 video card, problem is there are no Dx10 games to test performance on at the moment. :| Thank You. As of right now, MVP is the only game that i play on the PC, but I do hope to get into other PC games, so what kind of card would i choose to run a game thats more graphically demanding than MVP, such as Battlefield 2142? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsFan1983 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Any of the series I mentioned previously or higher would work well with current Dx9 generation games. But have you heard of Crysis? If not search for the HD Dx10 trailer for it. That will be out this Summer/Fall. If you're not all that worried about Dx10 in the near future, than I say save some money now and just get a good Dx9 video card for now. There are a few budget series Dx10 cards, such as the Nvidia 8600. Check that cards performance for the games you wish to play now, if its acceptable, you could get that, and it is a Dx10 compatible card. Of course there is no way to tell how well a budget Dx10 card will run a Dx10 game in the future. Check this full article, particularly this page with BF2142 benchmarks. It appears out of the three, the ATI 1900XT faired better than the Nvidia 8600. Click Me! (I'm A Link) It all depends on your budget. If you can afford a high end Dx10 card, they will more than likely perform better than the older Dx9 cards. If you can only afford a mid-range card, it's best to check the benchmarks. In the end, buy what works for you now and you'll enjoy, and you can always upgrade to Dx10 later when you so desire. Edit: Had to clump BF2142 together, otherwise the forum says something like Boyfriend 2142, now that would be a very different game! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrarienzo3 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 bro I made mine piece by piece and saved a bunch go to http://www.pricewatch.com/ and pick it out make sure you get 8800 GFX card and a PCIx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaHustla Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 Any of the series I mentioned previously or higher would work well with current Dx9 generation games. But have you heard of Crysis? If not search for the HD Dx10 trailer for it. That will be out this Summer/Fall. If you're not all that worried about Dx10 in the near future, than I say save some money now and just get a good Dx9 video card for now. There are a few budget series Dx10 cards, such as the Nvidia 8600. Check that cards performance for the games you wish to play now, if its acceptable, you could get that, and it is a Dx10 compatible card. Of course there is no way to tell how well a budget Dx10 card will run a Dx10 game in the future. Check this full article, particularly this page with BF2142 benchmarks. It appears out of the three, the ATI 1900XT faired better than the Nvidia 8600. Click Me! (I'm A Link) It all depends on your budget. If you can afford a high end Dx10 card, they will more than likely perform better than the older Dx9 cards. If you can only afford a mid-range card, it's best to check the benchmarks. In the end, buy what works for you now and you'll enjoy, and you can always upgrade to Dx10 later when you so desire. Edit: Had to clump BF2142 together, otherwise the forum says something like Boyfriend 2142, now that would be a very different game! No, I hadn't heard of Crysis, but after searching for and finding the HD game trailers I'm very impressed. I know that a Dx10 card would be what i need to make that game look as good as possible, but I'm not too interested in Dx10 cards as of yet. Vista is needed to use a Dx10 card, and I'm in no hurry to switch from XP to Vista, seeing as though its not as "stable" as it will be in the future. Eventually I will make the switch, and then I'll purchase a Dx10 card, but for right now I'd be more than happy with a Dx9 card, as almost any card would be an upgrade over my RADEON x300 SE. Thank You for the link to that article. A couple of months ago, I had my eye on This Video Card, but after seeing those results I think I'll look for a 1900 XT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaHustla Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 bro I made mine piece by piece and saved a bunch go to http://www.pricewatch.com/ and pick it out make sure you get 8800 GFX card and a PCIx16 If I may ask, about how much did you spend on that system you built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsFan1983 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Thank You for the link to that article. A couple of months ago, I had my eye on This Video Card, but after seeing those results I think I'll look for a 1900 XT. Wait, wait... wait The article I showed you had three cards. Nvidia 8600GTS ATI 1950 PRO ATI 1900 XT The XT series always tend to perform better than the PRO series. The lower numbered 1900 performed better because it was a XT class. If you match up a 1950 and a 1900 of the same class, the higher number is the better card. So a 1950 XT should perform better than a 1900 XT. The product link you provide is a 1950 XT, so you made a good choice. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaHustla Posted May 20, 2007 Author Share Posted May 20, 2007 Wait, wait... wait The article I showed you had three cards. Nvidia 8600GTS ATI 1950 PRO ATI 1900 XT The XT series always tend to perform better than the PRO series. The lower numbered 1900 performed better because it was a XT class. If you match up a 1950 and a 1900 of the same class, the higher number is the better card. So a 1950 XT should perform better than a 1900 XT. The product link you provide is a 1950 XT, so you made a good choice. Oh, ok, I follow now. Thanks again for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicMan Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 If you going for the 8600GTS, might as well dish out some more bucks for a 8800GTS 320MB. That 128 bit memory bus is a turn off. Personally, I think I would wait for ATI to release their lower end card in July, to see if you can get some deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEOLINK Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 is the NVidia 7900gs a good card? 8600gt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsFan1983 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Oh, ok, I follow now. Thanks again for all your help. No problem, I'm glad I could help. If you going for the 8600GTS, might as well dish out some more bucks for a 8800GTS 320MB. That 128 bit memory bus is a turn off. Personally, I think I would wait for ATI to release their lower end card in July, to see if you can get some deals. I agree about the 8800GTS 320, that's definitely a good card. I've seen the 8800GTS 640MB cards going for $50 more than the 320MB. I would save just a bit more for twice the buffer, but that's me. And yes 128 bit memory bus is a turn off. I'd like ATI to release a quality product, but if their HD 2900 XT is their new trend, we have a problem. These suckers need a lot of power. The card manufacturers need to make more energy efficient GPUs, I don't want to run my computer off of a backup generator one day. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stEdfuNk Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 correct me if im wrong, but isn't the 7300 a nuked chip? you'd be better off getting a 6800, i'd just shed the extra bucks for a 7800GTX (I have it) Also, you should get a core 2 duo by intel. In my opinion, that computer cost more than it's worth, you'd be better off building your own, or even try the prices here: www.ibuypower.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgutierrez32 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Mega Ultra 6000 SE (NO MONITOR) ULTRA6000Z, www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/ULTRA6000.asp?v=d • *BASE_PRICE: [+605] • CAS: Thermaltake Bach VX Mid-Tower 420W Case with Side Window [+40] • CASUPGRADE: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT [+10] (BLUE COLOR) • CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™64 X2 5400+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+30] • CD: Sony Q170A 18x Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+6] (BLACK COLOR) • CD2: SONY 16X DVD-ROM [+5] (BLACK COLOR) • CABLE: Round Cable Upgrade for Hard Drive, Optical Drive & Floppy Drive [+19] • FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR) • FREEBIE_CU1: FREE! CyberPower Multi-Purpose Carrying Briefcase ($19.99 Value) • FREEBIE_CU2: FREE! AGE OF EMPIRE III • FREEBIE_CU3: FREE! RISE OF NATIONS: RISE OF LEGENDS • FREEBIE_CU4: FREE! Cyberpower Unleash The Power T-Shirt with AMD Logo on the back ($19.99 Value) • FAN: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK + 2 EXTRA 3-COLOR LED CASE FANS [+19] • FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (BLACK COLOR) • HDD: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+17]) • HDD2: NONE • IEEE_CARD: NONE • KEYBOARD: NONE [-7] • MOUSE: NONE [-5] • MODEM: NONE • MONITOR: NONE • MONITOR2: NONE • MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)GigaByte GA-M57SLI-S4 nForce 570-SLI Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN,IEEE1394,USB2.0,&7.1Audio [+28] • MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand) • NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD • OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium [+104] • PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+19] • PRINTER: None • PRINTER_CABLE: None • POWERSUPPLY: **Recommended** NZXT PF-500 500Watt Power Supply [+49] • RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS • SOFT: Free 60 Days Microsoft® Office® 2007 (Words, Excel, Access, Power Point, Outlook + More) - Windows Vista™ Required • SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS 24/7 LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT • SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+30] • SPEAKERS: Logitech X-230 2.1 Configuration Speakers System [+31] • TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN) • TVRC: None • USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports • UPS: None • USBHD: NONE • VIDEO: ATI Radeon X1950 Pro PCI-E x16 256MB VIDEO CARD [+105] • VIDEO2: NONE • VIDEOCAMERA: NONE • WNC: NONE • WAP: NONE • ZIP: NONE I got this (radeon x1950 pro 256mb) and it runs battlefield 2, although I have 2 gigs of RAM in the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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