superciuc Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Mental illness it's all i can think now. He was nice guy when i met him. I can't believe it. I don't think that the Chris Benoit that told me about how he loved his family is not the same Chris Benoit that killed his wife and his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 This could easily be the nail in the coffin for pro wrestling. With all the bizarre deaths for wrestlers under 40 for the last few years, this just piles on. I'm sure this seems like a much bigger deal in pro wrestling circles than it is to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx_Bum Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Mental illness it's all i can think now. He was nice guy when i met him. I can't believe it. I don't think that the Chris Benoit that told me about how he loved his family is not the same Chris Benoit that killed his wife and his son. I really don't think a professional athlete, in any sport, would provide a fan (or fans) with all the intimate details of his/her personal life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superciuc Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 WARNING SIGNS THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH CHRIS BENOIT By: Bob Ryder 6/26/2007 5:08:55 PM In speaking with close friends and confidants of Chris Benoit contacted this afternoon, apparently there were some warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit. Some of the information learned by 1Wrestling.com by colleagues and friends that did not want to be quoted: "This wasn't roid rage, this was insanity. Roid rage doesn't last for 48 hours. There were signs that something was wrong. Stories have emerged that a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn't let Nancy leave the house because he believed someone was out to get them." Chris hated religion. He didn't believe in it. I cannot comprehend him putting bibles by the bodies. I am shocked. In addition, 1Wrestling has learned that sources close to Nancy are reporting that she had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages and that authorities should check the box if anything ever happened to her. BTW, i wasn't a fan, i was his translator ( yeah, we don't know a lot of English in Italy). - Once again, Ballard said Nancy Benoit was killed sometime on Friday, Daniel on Saturday morning, and Benoit killed himself Saturday night. - According to the medical examiner, Nancy was found with bruise marks on her back which is consistent with a knee being placed on her back, bruising on the front of her body suggesting she had been pressed against the floor, and her neck indicated she had been strangled. - There is no indication Daniel tried to make contact with anyone after his mother had been killed. - There were needle marks in Daniels arm, suggesting he was taking growth hormones for quite sometime. - Ballard suggested that Benoit may have killed his son with a chokehold. - Text messages from Benoit indicated that Nancy and Daniel were sick (probably sent when Nancy and Daniel had already been killed), and one messaged indicated that the pets needed to be let out. - Dr. Alan Lipman, also interviewed by CNN, suggested that in the past, Benoit was breaking up the furniture in the home and threatening Nancy. OH ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr33niL Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Because he's an ignorant piece of ****. I think "ignorant" is the wrong word here. "Psychopathic" fits better. All the "RIPs" in this thread should be be changed to "BIHs" [burn In Hell]. It takes real evil to kill a child. Especially your own child. Theres no chemical imbalance there. Its pure psychosis. If all the speculation is true, this guy belongs in the Ted Bundy/Charlie Manson line of discussion. I think those guys may be [have been] just as chemically imbalanced as Benoit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RmembrZito75 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I think "ignorant" is the wrong word here. "Psychopathic" fits better. All the "RIPs" in this thread should be be changed to "BIHs" [burn In Hell]. It takes real evil to kill a child. Especially your own child. Theres no chemical imbalance there. Its pure psychosis. If all the speculation is true, this guy belongs in the Ted Bundy/Charlie Manson line of discussion. I think those guys may be [have been] just as chemically imbalanced as Benoit. It seems as though him going a bit crazy is an understatement. There is no excuse or reason to kill a child and your wife. He was going insane and I read on yahoo that there were text messages that concerned the people about Benoit. I'm not sure, but I'm in shock that a "family man" would do this to his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Give me a break, it's not like, say OJ Simpson, where he killed his wife because she was taking his money, ran from justice and used the best lawyers, his race and political pressure to get away scot-free and then attempted to sell a book about "how he'd have done it". You want to know evil? That's your poster-child. I feel for the family. All I'm going to say is to let the cops conduct their investigation before you guys start condemning the man. Yes, we know he killed his family, but there are so many variables that are still left unanswered. Unfortunately for some here, I respect the man's wrestling ability, and I guess because I do, I'm supporting a murderer. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superciuc Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Give me a break, it's not like, say OJ Simpson, where he killed his wife because she was taking his money, ran from justice and used the best lawyers, his race and political pressure to get away scot-free and then attempted to sell a book about "how he'd have done it". You want to know evil? That's your poster-child. I feel for the family. All I'm going to say is to let the cops conduct their investigation before you guys start condemning the man. Yes, we know he killed his family, but there are so many variables that are still left unanswered. Unfortunately for some here, I respect the man's wrestling ability, and I guess because I do, I'm supporting a murderer. Brilliant. Co-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokeys Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Theres definately more to the story than what meets the eye, and we'll probably never know what really went on during the days that this event happened. For all we know he could have been framed, Im not saying he was though. This is an extremely bizzarre story. Im not sure what to think of it. Wrestling, one week they fake a death and the next their dealing with a real death. How ironic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr33niL Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Thats why I never comped him to OJ. I comped him to other mentally unstable murderers. Only thing worse than killing another person is if that other person is a child. As far as other facts are concerned.. It seems to be confirmed that Benoit killed his wife and child. Any dispute there? Apart from that, I couldn't care less about the particulars or context in which he did it. Nuff for me to label the guy an evil S.O.B. and hope he is sitting in a nice toasty place right now. Now if that main gist of the whole "Benoit killing his family" completely flips to show he didn't do it. I take it all back of course. But that doesn't seem too likely at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav3rek Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 The point of this is that maybe it wasn't completely his fault. If he had a undiagnosed mental illness that caused this, then he can not be completely blamed for it. It's like a person with tourette's. They are not blamed for the things they do b/c they are unable to control them. How can you blame someone for something out of their control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superciuc Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 The point of this is that maybe it wasn't completely his fault. If he had a undiagnosed mental illness that caused this, then he can not be completely blamed for it. It's like a person with tourette's. They are not blamed for the things they do b/c they are unable to control them. How can you blame someone for something out of their control? Read my first post in this page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr33niL Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 The point of this is that maybe it wasn't completely his fault. If he had a undiagnosed mental illness that caused this, then he can not be completely blamed for it. It's like a person with tourette's. They are not blamed for the things they do b/c they are unable to control them. How can you blame someone for something out of their control? Don't know what to do with this. So Benoit had some sort of murderous Tourette's syndrome? Maybe he did have mental problems but lets not speculate that this was some sort of knee jerk reaction out of his control. A person with Tourette's who shouts a curse word or has a tick that is out of their control is a little different from a man who kills his wife ..then waits a day to kill his child, then waits another day to kill himself. Man who kills family - willingly and systematically = HIS FAULT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav3rek Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I didn't say he had tourette's I was making a comparison to those diagnosed with tourette's. Tourette's people do things unwillingly. Maybe Benoit had something wrong that made him do things unwillingly, or made him not realize what he was doing or something along those lines. To just write the guy off as a sadistic human w/o considering the possibility of something bigger going on isn't fair to him. Innocent until proven guilty in my book at least. So until it's proven otherwise I'd like to think he wasn't sadistic and just went on a killing spree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildster Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Who are we kidding? The man was pumped up bigger than Barry Bonds. You dance with steroids, you flirt with insanity and death. In fact, you have to be a little tweaked to start taking steroids to begin with. The tragedy here is not the death of Chris Benoit but that the coward had to take his wife and seven year old son with him. For those of you who believe that we should wait until all the facts are in because maybe there is a reason to justify or excuse what he did, you have a long wait. There is no excuse. There is no justifacation. It is what it is. My heart goes out to his remaining family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I hope you guys know that there were legal perscriptions for the steroids that he takes, and steroids had absolutely NOTHING to do with the death of his family and Benoit himself, according to the investigators and police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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krawhitham Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I hope you guys know that there were legal perscriptions for the steroids that he takes, and steroids had absolutely NOTHING to do with the death of his family and Benoit himself, according to the investigators and police. That is not what I heard on CNN and Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Unfortunately for some here, I respect the man's wrestling ability, and I guess because I do, I'm supporting a murderer. Brilliant. I hate to be the one to tell you KC, but wrestling is FAKE All I'm going to say is to let the cops conduct their investigation before you guys start condemning the man. Yes, we know he killed his family, but there are so many variables that are still left unanswered. The man killed his family, nothing else matters and you act like something can justify what he did. Are you insane? Oh wait you did say you respect his wrestling ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynNets24 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I hate to be the one to tell you KC, but wrestling is FAKE The man killed his family, nothing else matters and you act like something can justify what he did. Are you insane? Oh wait you did say you respect his wrestling abilityyea i guess jumping off the top ropes of a ring and diving into peoples shoulders with yor head is pretty fake and deffinitly nto hurt whats so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynNets24 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 heres a statement Vince Mcmahon put out in the beggining of ECW he basically saying since Benoit is now considered a murderer he will not be mentioned at all anymore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXxqAiei4kw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 That is not what I heard on CNN and Fox http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitpressrelease 1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions. 2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so. 3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative. 4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage. 5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts. I hate to be the one to tell you KC, but wrestling is FAKE Wrestling is scripted, but I never said it was real. Maybe this guy did. I don't think that the WWE should try to erase him completely from their history, but I can certainly understand them not wanting anything to do with him now. As for his son, a man who kills a child, especially his own, with no intention of getting away with it, is clearly a man who has completely lost it and is no longer either sane or capable of normal rational thought. The layover between the death of his wife and the death of his son seems like it indicates that Benoit must have come to some realization of what he had done to his wife and completely broke apart trying to figure out what to do about it. It's not hard for a guy to go from just being enraged or crazy to being completely psychotic with grief and self-loathing at that point. And he must have been self-loathing since he killed himself. One doesn't do that when they're proud of what they've done. That doesn't exonerate him, though, and if there is another life to look forward to, he is going to pay for it with hell, if you believe such things. Anyway, that's how I see it, and I don't plan to ponder the murderous actions of Chris Benoit any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superciuc Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Chris Benoit had mental illness. A member of his family says that he tought that he was followed and he never let Nancy go out. But something isn't right now: why Benoit put the bible near Nancy and his son if he hated religion? And why his son didn't try to make contact after his mother had been killed? This questions will be unaswered in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrunner4623 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Chris Benoit had mental illness. A member of his family says that he tought that he was followed and he never let Nancy go out. But something isn't right now: why Benoit put the bible near Nancy and his son if he hated religion? And why his son didn't try to make contact after his mother had been killed? This questions will be unaswered in my opinion. Of course it will be unanswered. They are all dead now. I hope Benoit slowly turns in the fires of Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanzarelli Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 According to this portion of an ESPN article, Benoit was involved with a company who was being investigated regarding steroids: Toxicology test results may not be available for weeks or even months, he said. As for whether steroids played a role in the crime, he said: "We don't know yet. That's one of the things we'll be looking at." Benoit received drug deliveries from a Florida business that sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet, according to the Albany County, N.Y., District Attorney's Office, which is investigating the business, MedXLife.com. Six people, including two of the pharmacy's owners, have pleaded guilty in the Albany investigation, and 20 more have been arrested, including doctors and pharmacists. - Only one prior arrest of Chris Benoit is known. It was allegedly for a DUI, but nothing can be confirmed. There is no knowledge at this time if there was a history of domestic violence with Chris Benoit. It was also not know whether or not a divorce had been filed. - Lots of prescription medications found in Benoit’s house that police believe to be legal prescriptions at this time. However, he then said that police found anabolic steroids but would not say what all they found without a full list. - Nancy was found with her wrist and feet bound, she was on her feet, with blood under her head. That was the only sign of a struggle (the blood under her head). She was wrapped in a towel. - Both victims were found clothed. - Ballard said that he was told in 2003 a temporary protective order was sought and later dismissed. Ballard said that orders are typically for domestic violence, but not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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