WWE WRESTLER CHRIS BENOIT & FAMILY found DEAD!!

[Mav3rek]

His 7 year old son had been taking growth hormone for a while now. Thus the prescription steroids.

[el_jefe061]

Let's not kid ourselves, of course the guy was on steroids. Whether it was 'roid rage or just craziness, we don't know. For the people who said "R.I.P." initially, it's OK because we didn't know what happened earlier. I think we all thought it was carbon monoxide poisoning or something of that ilk in the beginning. After that, however, there's really nothing you could say to try and defend him.

Mental illness was certainly involved, I've always been in support of people with mental illnesses, but to say "He was crazy, it's not his fault" seems wrong. Forget about what you thought of him before or "how good" of a wrestler he was. He's a murderer and he's dead, and pro wrestling as we know it may follow soon enough.

[Mav3rek]

pro wrestling isn't going anywhere.

Just b/c a tragedy happened doesn't mean that it's going to kill one of the most popular forms of entertainment.

If Clemens went nuts and killed his family and then himself would baseball fold? Nope.

Professional wrestling is more popular that most people realize. They think it's just a bunch of rednecks watching it and no one else really cares.

I don't think anyone on here is arguing that professional wrestling to an extent is fake. All of the matches are scripted yes, all of the storylines are fake, yes. But some of the stuff they do actually involves real contact and real pain.

watch this clip and tell me that it was 100% fake, and that neither person was hurt in any way. Granted the stretcher and all that stuff that happened later was probably fake, no matter how you look at it, that had to hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkyy9xXNyyY...related&search=

[el_jefe061]

pro wrestling isn't going anywhere.

Just b/c a tragedy happened doesn't mean that it's going to kill one of the most popular forms of entertainment.

If Clemens went nuts and killed his family and then himself would baseball fold? Nope.

Professional wrestling is more popular that most people realize. They think it's just a bunch of rednecks watching it and no one else really cares.

Pro wrestling is as popular as everyone thinks it is, which is very popular. It's one of the highest rated cable programs weekly. However, I think we're all understating how big of a deal this murder suicide is. Not only is it one of the most beloved wrestlers of the past decade, but it outlines the underlying steroid use, and is another addition to the bizarre deaths of many famous wrestlers.

Will wrestling fold immediately? No, nothing really ever does. But could this possibly be the beginning of the end? Yes, and you'd be foolish to think it wasn't. At the very least, its image is extremely damaged and they lose whatever mainstream appeal was left. Wrestling's popularity has already declined over the last couple of years.

As for wrestling being fake, "fake" is the wrong word to describe it. "Scripted" is the proper word, and I think we can all agree that the injuries are real.

Also, the Roger Clemens analogy is stupid. There's a couple dozen wrestlers in an individual or tag team act, while there's one baseball (Albeit superstar) player on a team sport. Big difference. Also, wrestling isn't a sport as it is entertainment, where the personalities and actions of said wrestler dictates popularity and ratings.

It's also ironic when comparing someone who possibly snapped because of 'roid rage.

[BrooklynNets24]

pro wrestling isn't going anywhere.

Just b/c a tragedy happened doesn't mean that it's going to kill one of the most popular forms of entertainment.

If Clemens went nuts and killed his family and then himself would baseball fold? Nope.

Professional wrestling is more popular that most people realize. They think it's just a bunch of rednecks watching it and no one else really cares.

I don't think anyone on here is arguing that professional wrestling to an extent is fake. All of the matches are scripted yes, all of the storylines are fake, yes. But some of the stuff they do actually involves real contact and real pain.

watch this clip and tell me that it was 100% fake, and that neither person was hurt in any way. Granted the stretcher and all that stuff that happened later was probably fake, no matter how you look at it, that had to hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkyy9xXNyyY...related&search=

Iv seen Jeff Hardy do worst his best was wen he jumped off the ladder and did the swanton bomb on Bubba ray dudley through 3 tables but yea anything like this is far from fake the best examlple could be Undertaker VS Mankind in Hell in a Cell

[superciuc]

Well, Wikipedia said that Benoit died 16 hours before WWE annonced that his body was found n his house.

BTW, Wikipedia was modified from Stamford. The WWE knows something.

[BrooklynNets24]

Well, Wikipedia said that Benoit died 16 hours before WWE annonced that his body was found n his house.

BTW, Wikipedia was modified from Stamford. The WWE knows something.

um this is wikipedia someone can say there form antarctica

[seanzarelli]

Just read a report that the steroids will likely be ruled out of the question. It turns out that his son was taking growth hormones because of a disease called Fragile X Syndrome which would explain the needle holes in the boys body and the reasoning for all the prescription meds. Also doing some research on the disease, it says that it tears the families apart and they struggle because there isn't a lot of public help and support.

[BigDaddyCool]

For anyone who follows the Indie circuit, you probably know who April Hunter is. She's a fitness model, a beautiful redhead, and - oh yeah - she's a wrestler as well.

Here's her take which I got in my e-mail box this am:

Current mood: crushed

"Roid Rage" and Benoit

Like everyone else, I am shocked to hear about the Benoit family deaths. There have already been many moving commentaries written. I mostly feel betrayed... because I feel that Chris Benoit was someone everyone loved, trusted, respected and looked up to. No one had a bad thing to say about him. He was the epitome of morality. If HE isn't truly like the person we believed him to be...then what about the rest of us?

However, I would rather comment on another part of this story. I've always felt that "roid rage" label was a media cop out to sensationalize a story or blame it on something.

A roid rage is a flash of heat, like a child's temper tantrum. It a quick outburst of violence or aggression and usually leaves as fast as it arrived. It certainly does not last an entire weekend.

--When Phil Hartman's wife killed him and then herself not long ago it was never called roid rage.

--There are a lot of athletes (and people) who take steroids. Most of them manage to not kill family members.

--Is anyone investigating Bobby Cutts Jr for roid rage? He's accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend. But he's not a wrestler (he's a cop) - so no...they're not.

--PITTSBURGH PA. March 2007, George Terry, A retired custodian fatally shot his wife and two sons in their sleep, then turned the gun on himself, police said Thursday. As far as I know, he was not investigated for steroids.

"Wrestling" = "Steroids" to the general public. And "Steroids" = "Bad". That's the light it's been painted in.

A few facts: Anabolic steroids have used for numerous medical purposes including stimulation of bone growth, appetite, puberty, and muscle growth.

They have been used for prisoners of war to help them grow. For bone marrow stimulation, children with growth failure (dwarfs), to stimulate appetite, stimulate libido, testosterone therapy, fight many age related problems and bring on stalled puberty. The most widespread medical uses of anabolic steroids are used to help people with chronic wasting conditions, such as cancer and AIDS.

Despite rumors and heresy, no scientific evidence has shown any long-term serious health defects from proper use of anabolic steroids.

If someone's a violent, controlling person, using or not using steroids isn't going to change that --- or make them murder another. (That's like assuming that everyone who has ever used cocaine is an ATM robber or prostitute.)

I believe it's much deeper than that.

As someone who escaped a bad relationship that was very much headed in this direction, I know now that many entertainers have two personalities: the public/TV persona everyone knows and the private version few will ever.

I am not defending legal or illegal drugs. What I am questioning is why we can't look at things deeper and for what they really are, instead of giving them a sensational LABEL or placing blame elsewhere. Either way, it doesn't bring anyone back.

RIP Nancy & Daniel Benoit.

April Hunter

myspace.com/therealaprilhunter

www.AprilHunter.com

[martelliandmets]

Wow that's why porn stars don't have brains. Steroids do cause long term effects of high blood pressure leading to heart disease and stroke. Mentally, they cause violent mood swings, aggression, depression and hallucinations. If she is in denial, that there are no negative effects of steroids, then she is insane.

[Homer]

those effects are possible side effects, particularly of abuse. if you look at her message closely, she states that with proper use there is no such evidence.

[martelliandmets]

what exactly is proper use. Basically it's using it for medicinal purposes and is prescribed by a doctor. However, in Benoit's case he was using it illegally. If anyone is taking it illegally, most likely they are going to abuse it thus experiencing it's long term effects.

[Homer]

keep reading. your question's already been answered.

[brutushayesosu]

She mentions the Bobby Cutts case...how does she know the in's and out's of that case? Maybe the investigators didn't find steriods at his residence and maybe he's been tested (I don't know if police officers are...seems to me that they would be). What she should just say is that the media and the general public should not jump to conclusions or sugggest reasons without the facts. The autopsy will shed light onto what was in his system at the time of his death. If he was roids, does that mean roid rage was the reason for killing his family? They will never say that as being 100% the reason they can only suggest it. The media will say it was however, and everyone else will believe the media. Don't always take what the media says as being the 100% truth. Question the media every chance you get.

Unrelated to Benoit....As the missing pregnant woman from Ohio was missing did anyone wondering about the recent college grad from New York who was getting ready to apply to law school that gone missing in Miami? The Canton woman's story was more appealing for the media because she was a mother of child that came from a married man, who was black, and a cop. She was also pregnant at the time. It had a lot of different elements that make it appealing to the media. Hundreds of people volunteered to search for her and the national media ascended upon Canton. Meanwhile, Stepha Henry has been missing for almost a month and has gotten little coverage.

[Pokeys]

I long for a better tommorow...

[superciuc]

Chris Benoit may have been so depressed that he believed his family would be "better off in heaven" when he allegedly murdered his wife and son before killing himself, says an expert on murder-suicide.

WWE wrestler Benoit, his wife Nancy and son Daniel, 7, were found dead Monday in their suburban Atlanta home.

Local police are treating the case as a murder-suicide. Dr. John Bradford, associate chief of the integrated forensic program for the Royal Ottawa Health Care Group, said murder-suicides that wipe out a family are most often carried out by the father.

"The most usual cause is a major depression, normally a severe one with psychotic features," said Bradford, also a professor of forensic psychiatry at the University of Ottawa.

"They sort of start to think, in this psychotic thinking, that the whole family would be better off in heaven ... that, 'This is a horrible place, I think we'd all be better off dead.' "

Psychiatrists commonly refer to murder-suicide as "extended suicide," when the killer decides life is not worth living, he said.

Police in Georgia say they will be investigating whether steroid use was a factor in the case. Prescription anabolic steroids were found in the home.

Bradford said steroid use carries "a lot of baggage" when it comes to psychiatric health because the drugs alter brain and body chemistry.

"People that abuse steroids carry with them an increased risk of rage and rage attacks. There's also an increased risk of depression, so it's kind of a double whammy."

Dads who decide to kill their kids often turn to methods such as smothering because they don't want the children to suffer, said Bradford.

Eliza Barlow, Sun Media

[sdoyle7798]

what exactly is proper use. Basically it's using it for medicinal purposes and is prescribed by a doctor. However, in Benoit's case he was using it illegally. If anyone is taking it illegally, most likely they are going to abuse it thus experiencing it's long term effects.

FWIW, the police reports said he had a prescription for the steroids. Now whether or not the doctor that prescribed them is on the straight and narrow, I don't know.

[walkinman]

I don't follow the "sport" but it's sad to see a man come to the state of mind that would cause something like this.

It is amazing how Vince whats-his-name miracuously came back from the dead.

[sully04]

It doesn't surprise me that Vince McMahon ended his "death" storyline. This is a demonstration that Vince is not his character. I quit watching wrestling about 5 years ago, but I assume that Vince was comfortable maintaining his "heel" status. This was and is a serious problem for the WWE, one that threatens the image of his business, and that was more important than any fictional storyline he cared to maintain. I won't say that Vince is actually a good person, as Ive never met him, but I'm not surprised by his actions, and I'd say that so far he is handling this tragedy as well as any person in his position could.

[Guildster]

For anyone who follows the Indie circuit, you probably know who April Hunter is. She's a fitness model, a beautiful redhead, and - oh yeah - she's a wrestler as well.

Here's her take which I got in my e-mail box this am:

Unbelievable. That someone in her position would make a statement as irresponsible and unresearched as this, a statement that many youngsters would take as an endorsement of steroid use, is unbelievable and ethically undefendable. Stop making stuff up lady before it comes back and bites you on the ***. As for letting someone with her judgement drive a car at 200+ mph...

[Materfiend]

I hope that the WWE recants any comments that they made towards Chris Benoit. He's a coward and more so he nothing more than common criminal. I have totally lost respect for the WWE and anything remotely related to Chris Benoit. I'm glad he has left the face of the earth. He had no right to deny his son a life of his own nor his wife. He's selfish. If the WWE should take anything away from this, is that they need to be screening the perfomers that they are putting on the TV to do their biddings. Wrestling is prone to all these suicides and drug related issues for any wrestler trying to get out of the business that's why most of these guys have short life spans. Guerro, Sensational, Chyna, 6-Pak, the list goes on and on in this business and the WWE is only interested in filling their pockets. The wrestlers of this type of business are placed under a lot of stress and these should be going through annual psychiatric testing to remain performers in this industry. Benoit needed help for quite some time and the end result is the loss of 3 lives, a black eye for the WWE, and 3 hours of wasted homage to a cold blooded murderer!

[stEdfuNk]

I don't follow the "sport" but it's sad to see a man come to the state of mind that would cause something like this.

It is amazing how Vince whats-his-name miracuously came back from the dead.

If an actor dies in a movie, do you sarcastically say "wow he miraculously came back from the dead" when they appear after the movie? No, why? Because you understand that it's a movie made for entertainment. It's the same thing with this, all the WWE is is a long movie, or a long tv series. I don't follow the WWE anymore, but I use to when I was a kid, I'd follow the WCW (sting was my favorite ) and I'd follow WWF/WWE, and 1 thing I always hated when really smart people would point out that it was fake, I think only about 1% of fans think it's real (and that 1% is most likely under the age of 12). People know it's fake, but its about entertainment, it's basically a soap opera for men. It's an entertainment program, that's all it should be taken for, not "reality."

Sorry for my rant, it's just I hate when people assume everyone thinks its real, when really it's not like that.

[BigDaddyCool]

Uh, just to clarify Materfiend, Chyna and X-Pac are alive and well.

Apparently the steroids that Benoit had in his home were allegidly perscribed for his son, Daniel for treatment of Fragile X Syndrome.

District Attroney Scott Ballard stated the Daniel had old needle marks in his arms. Ballard said he had been told the parents considered him undersized and had given him growth hormones. "The boy was very small, even dwarfed," he said.

[Kccitystar]

I am just curious, if ESPN reports that Michael Jordan killed a grip of people in the past, does that mean he is no longer to be considered a great basketball player?

[AstroEric]

Give me a break, it's not like, say OJ Simpson, where he killed his wife because she was taking his money, ran from justice and used the best lawyers, his race and political pressure to get away scot-free and then attempted to sell a book about "how he'd have done it". You want to know evil? That's your poster-child.

Is OJ no longer considered a great football player?