WeAreBad Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Wow, last I knew he was ready to return fairly soon after the all-star break. Somehow I don't think he's going to leave, at least not until after his contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lz477 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 ARod to the Cubs for Carlos Zambrano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussFeathers Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Btw 15Beltran, just so you know, Carlos Beltran was booed in his first year when he didnt play that great so dont talk about how met fans dont boo their players. Why would A-rod leave now, when New York loves him now. Nobody boos him, now they are just in awe. There is no reason to leave anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean O Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Why would A-rod leave now, when New York loves him now. Nobody boos him, now they are just in awe. There is no reason to leave anymore. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ One for each million that Rodriguez is hoping to get. He doesn't care if he had to play for the Royals, the Omaha Royals, if he could get $30m a year out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Why would A-rod leave now, when New York loves him now. Nobody boos him, now they are just in awe. There is no reason to leave anymore. Maybe he wants to live a relatively private life. Also, let's not jump the gun on the New York love fest. He had an MVP season two years ago and still got booed when the playoffs rolled around. Say the Yankees do make the playoffs, only to have another A-Rod choke performance. Is everyone in awe then? I think when it's all said and done, A-Rod stays in New York, but to the people who say there's no way he's leaving: Are you crazy? He's a Scott Boras client, he has no private life, the Yankees aren't the team they used to be, he could get more money, New York has been brutal to him, and who knows if he actually likes it in New York, or he's just saying it? Aside from the rapidly fading "Yankee mystique" why would he want to stay in New York? He can't hit on a waitress without it being on Page 5. He can't got 1-4 in October without being crucified. This is without considering who his agent is, and none of us know what is actually going on in his head. When writers involved in the game are saying A-Rod most certainly will opt out, why are we so quick to disagree? Because "A-Rod says so"? I'm sure Mariners fans thought there was no way he'd ever leave Seattle too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superciuc Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 All he typed was "we can replace him," so I'm going to assume that he meant just what he wrote -- that he thinks of the best player in the game is replaceable. And that, to me, is just very funny. Sure you can plop someone else at third, but will he really replace Alex Rodriguez? I typed we can replace him because there are a lot of good 3B (not like A-Rod) that the Yankees can sign. and another thing, A-Rod likes just one thing: 1.money. Who gives A-Rod a lot of money? The Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15Beltran Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 1 - The media is tough in New York no matter where you go dumbass. doesn't mean the real Yankee fans don't like A-Rod. Ignorant people. 2 - Btw 15Beltran, just so you know, Carlos Beltran was booed in his first year when he didnt play that great so dont talk about how met fans dont boo their players. Answer to # 1 - I never said I wanted A Rod. Go back to school then maybe you'll learn to understand what you read. I said he SHOULD HAVE BEEN a Met, not SHOULD BE. His transition to NY would have been easier. So keep the Dumdass to yourself DUNCE. I know the media is tough in NY, I live in NY and see how eveything he does is blown out of proportion. And as for the "REAL" Yankee fans, I'll remember you said that when they Boo him for not getting the "BIG" hit when it counts. Ah, you'll be watching the playoffs this year anyway. Why don't you drop $50 million bucks on Paul Molitors doorstep since you need to buy retired players to help. Yeah yeah I know, 26 championships, 2000 Yanks beat Mets, blah blah blah. I choose to live in the present. This is the season that counts to me. Answer to # 2 - Mr Russ Feathers. Another guy who does no read the whole post correctly. I said that us Met fans did, "DID" give Beltran and Piazza a hard time, just that it did not last that long. Yankee fans have been calling for A Rod's head even up until the beginning of this season until he went on his tear. Geez guy's, I was not trying to be a wiseguy. Was not looking for trouble, I was just adding my 2 cents that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Oh please...Met fans were calling for Beltran's head until his back to back 2 HR games a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15Beltran Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Beltran is not the topic of this discussion. Besides, Beltran has not been thrown under the bus ( Yet ) the way A Rod has. There's no picture on the cover of NY newspapers of Beltran sunbathing or messing with hookers in Toronto. Just a little edit here to the A Rod booing Yankee fans. Imagine what your season would be WITHOUT him this year. Think about that when you think of booing him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr33niL Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 As soon as ARod goes through another little slump, Yankee fans will be back to booing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 You mean like that 0 for 20 slump he had this year? Hitting .235 in May? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 You mean like that 0 for 20 slump he had this year? Hitting .235 in May? I know it's a Yankee love fest for A-Rod this year, but don't be pointing at how you've (Yankee fans) treated him this year when two years ago, after the playoffs, you guys wanted his head on a stick. You know, two years ago when he won AL MVP. Wait till after October or another A-Rod playoff collapse to say "Hey, we love A-Rod, we're behind him through thick and thin!". Like I said on the previous page, why should A-Rod stay in New York? The media is brutal, the fans haven't been great to him (It may be better this year, but I'm sure he remembers everything before that), and he may be able to get more money elsewhere. Why is it so out of the question for A-Rod to leave? Edit: I'd like to hear something relatively definitive from Yankee fans that they're going to treat A-Rod like a human being if something goes wrong. Not an 0-20 slump in May, I'm talking a full playoff* meltdown. What are you guys going to do if A-Rod lays another egg in the playoffs? What if he strikes out in the bottom of the 9th, bases loaded? You booed him mercilessly after the playoffs of 05, and he had won AL MVP that year. If you can't accept someone the year after they won MVP what's to say you'll accept them for good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Oh please...Met fans were calling for Beltran's head until his back to back 2 HR games a week ago. :protest: Boooooooooo Beltran Booooooooooo :protest: Anyway, back on topic: 1. The Yankees will resign A Rod to a 10 year deal 2. A Rod will break Bonds' single season homerun record 3. A Rod will break Bonds' career homerun record 4. A Rod will be first ballot hall of famer Enough Said !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stEdfuNk Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 that 0-20 was what... a 4-5 day slump? with an injury, that's hardly enough time to count it as "we stuck with him" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I know I don't speak on behalf of every Yankee fan (sadly) but I dare you to look back on every comment I have made regarding A-Rod since joining this board, and I swear I never made one comment regarding his inability to hit in the clutch or hoping he opts out of his contract or wanting to trade him. I have never hated on A-Rod, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I know I don't speak on behalf of every Yankee fan (sadly) but I dare you to look back on every comment I have made regarding A-Rod since joining this board, and I swear I never made one comment regarding his inability to hit in the clutch or hoping he opts out of his contract or wanting to trade him. I have never hated on A-Rod, period. No one's saying you have, but the majority of the Yankee fan empire hated him. He buttoned up his jersey and Yankee fans hated him. If he can't get some love after an MVP season, what's to say he'll get some now? Another issue, Yankee fans harp about how clutch he's been this season. When hasn't he been clutch during the regular season? He was in a complete slump last year, but he came up big a few occasions. Same the year before that, especially when he ruined Curt's first time as a closer. His 9th inning heroics this year prove nothing. Just that he's a ridiculously good hitter. If he does what he's done this year in October, I'll change my tune. But until then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 There is reason for people to rag on him, but not like that. Most of it is jealousy, anyway. I will once again say he will have a good postseason. I mean he did poorly in the ALDS vs. Detroit, but seriously, who didn't do poorly outside of Jeter and Jorge? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 There is reason for people to rag on him, but not like that. Most of it is jealousy, anyway. That's obviously not the reason Yankee fans rag on him. It's easy to forget the stinkers he has put up during the postseason with his numbers this year, but people will remember come October. Until he dominates, not just plays well, during the playoffs, he's not going to be accepted as a "true Yankee". As for the idea of a "True Yankee", this is just stupid. The Yankees may have a storied history, but if I had a nickel for every washed up, overpriced superstar who's played in pinstripes I'd be A-Rod. When people mention the Yankee mystique, they also forget to mention the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFallenPhoenix Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 ...it's not exactly fair for the Yankee fans on this forum--most of whom are actually good baseball fans who know how to appreciate a talent like A-Rod, regardless of how well or poorly he might do in a smaller sample size, and have no qualms about ignoring such media-created labels as "true Yankees"--to have to defend all of the other bad seeds who claim to be Yankees fans. As far as I'm concerned, if you boo one of your own players for on the field performance on a consistent basis, especially when those players are putting up serviceable (or above-serviceable, as A-Rod certainly does) numbers, you are not a fan of the team. I think that applies for all fans, across the board. Of course, it's hard to draw the line--I can't blame Red Sox fans for booing Lugo and his sub-.200 average, for example, especially if you never liked the signing in the first place--but I think that's a fair enough guideline. ...the point I'm trying to make, is, it just seems like we Yankees fans on this board have the undue burden of having to defend the jackasses who boo A-Rod time and time again, who have selective memories, and would sooner see Bernie Williams batting fourth in the 2007 World Series than Alex Rodriguez. That said, as I've said time and time again, I hope the Cash Man does everything in his power to resign A-Rod in the likely scenario he opts out. Again, I don't care how much you pay him, there is no comparable position player talent on the market, not now, and probably not within the next five years. Probably not even within the next ten or twenty years. That's how good he is. When he retires, he will be hailed one of the best players of all time, and the best player of his generation. How do you justify letting a player like that go, when you have the enormous resources the Yankees have? I know I always talk about how it's important not to overpay for players, and praise the Cash Man for the direction he's put the franchise in, but there are always exceptions, and I think once-in-a-lifetime talents qualify as the type you can afford to overpay, if you have the resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 He will opt out, and sign with the Reds in the off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 he said i don't know but he said that he feels great in New York and he's proud of wearing the Yankees uniform day in and day out. "I don't know", in these situations means "NO". I am with the rock on this one. I know I am a Boston fan, but this right here, says it all. He can't be offered any more money, so for him to say that, means no. The "Im proud to wear that uniform", is something he has to say. I'll make it easy for ya, he's never been a guy of suspense, or making fans believe something that isn't the case. When asked, all he needs to say is, YES, I will be a YANKEE. Lord knows they would want to keep him, so no worries about contract extension here. He wants to go, and I don't blame him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ro290190 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I typed we can replace him because there are a lot of good 3B (not like A-Rod) that the Yankees can sign. and another thing, A-Rod likes just one thing: 1.money. Who gives A-Rod a lot of money? The Yankees. There is pretty much no 3rd basemen on the free agent market next year so it wont be easy to replace him at all. The Yankees dont pay him the Rangers do, their the team that signed him to this contract and still pay for most of it. Money may be A-rod's main interest but I also think that he isnt happy at how he was treated for his first 3 "bad" seasons and that will be another reason why he will leave New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drizz Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I dont think arod will be in pinstripes next year. Arod overall does not look very happy in new york. Money isnt exactly his upcomming issue considering damn well he knows he will be payed not in 100's franklins, but 500's with his face printed on it anywhere he decides to land. Arod came to NY for the sole reason of winning a world series, and he now knows things arent going to get any better with the yanks for another 2 or three years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussFeathers Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Basically if the Yankees made the playoffs and A-rod was terrible, then i agree with everyone hes gone. If A-rod wants money, hes coming back to the Yankees. Which in my view means that even if the Yankees dont make the playoffs hes coming back. And i heard an interesting perspective from someone on the Yes network. I dont know if A-Rod would stick to it, but they said that if A-rod moved onto another team like the Angels, Dodgers, or anyone other than the Yankees, Rangers or Mariners, he would have no true legacy with one team. Basically he wouldnt be remembered as a great yankee, a great mariner, or great rangers. He wouldnt get his number retired by anyone, and would not have his "own" fans. And Apparently has a great understanding of baseball history, and understands something of this. Basically that was the essence. Look you cant say hes definitly leaving but you cant say hes definitly staying. How the season ends will determine it. Btw booing your own players doesnt mean your not a true fan, it just means your frustrated, and btw A-rod didnt get booed until if im correct after his first season despite how "poorly" he played. And btw i dont care what the numbers said, he did not have an MVP year the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 he would have no true legacy with one team This is really an interesting thought. He would definitely go down in history as a great player, but a money grubbing mercenary. Has anyone else thought, that if he leaves NY, his defining moment will be the ballslap? And btw i dont care what the numbers said, he did not have an MVP year the following year. That's right. Big Papi did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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