Kccitystar Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 When it was released at the beginning of the year, the general consensus seemed to be amiable acceptance. "Nothing that revolutionary, but the interface is cool, it's got DX10, and there is some great new housekeeping/security stuff going on underneath the hood" was the general vibe I got. Now we are 9 months removed from the launch. It seems like just in the past couple months the enthusiast press has turned on Vista, making it sound like the biggest mess since Millenium Edition. "It's bloated....everything runs slower....driver support is still awful....there's a ton of bugs and random screwups.....the security features nag you to death over everything.....the overhead consumed by the UI bogs everything down" is now the vibe I get. There was a column some weeks back where an analyst said that Microsoft should just abandon Vista as a platform and continue to support XP until they come up with something better. I imagine there's far too much hubris for that to happen, but the future does seem really muddy. I'm sure Microsoft will be okay on home PCs since OEMs will just keep bundling Vista, but for the business market it sounds like things might be pretty grim. I've had virtually no experience with Vista as a user, so I'm curious what people who've bought and used Vista have to say about it. FOCUS: Is this just the Honeymoon being over, or is there something seriously borked? Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgi Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Im curious to see what everyone says, because all the cheaper laptops have vista, but ive help off in fear of it sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skittles12 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 im using it. Works fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Im curious to see what everyone says, because all the cheaper laptops have vista, but ive help off in fear of it sucking. yeah me too, but thus far just crickets.... but i'd love to hear what the truth of the matter really is. i've heard both sides of it. but i'm gonna be buying a computer soon and everything's bundled with vista. and i'm probably gonna want it without for the time being, but i know that the stupid salesman's gonna tell me i can't. bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmexico Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I'd say with the successes of Gutsy Gibbon and Leopard , it's a huge failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmexico Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Windows 7 looks to be a much more efficient and far out better OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 There is no overwhelming desire for me to drop XP for Vista like there was when XP launched. I only just used Vista recently, and holy shizz is the user access control the most annoying piece of crap conceived by man. Fscking YEARS of development time and there are no attractive bullet points. Ugh. Why can't MS just adopt a UNIX-like architecture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuanshuowu Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Well I've been using Vista for a while and I think its pretty nice, since I have no problem with it. The only thing that bothers me is that they need to confirm EVERYTHING that I do, such as "Do you wanna open Firefox?" "Do you wanna open CCleaner?" Also, many programs don't work unless you run it as administer, such as MVP, after I installed KC's Total MLB 1.30, I need to run it as administer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc006 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 For me, I've had no major complaints about vista. The fact that you have to confirm everything is annoying, but it's not much more than that, it's just annoying. Still, you'd think they would be able to think up of something that doesn't require you to keep confirming the opening or copying or pasting of stuff. I don't see it so much as a failure, more as not as much a success as it should be. You'd think with all those years of planning and development they would be able to come up with something better than an only slight upgrade from XP. That's why you could say it's a "failure." Still, as long as I've used it, it still is narrowly better overall than XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay16509 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Guys, If you turn off User Account Control, you will not get the annoying messages such as "Are you sure you want to open MVP Baseball 2005?" This has made a much better experience for me. Other than that, it takes a little time to get used to Vista, but it seems to be ok so far. What I do is when I install a program, I go into compatability mode, and select XP SP2, and that has also reduced a number of compatability problems as well. Thanks, Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPaPa Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Vista is very good platform The MAin hole in Windows XP was that anyone who used it was given Administrative powers, including people who hack into it and every program you install on it. With vista if someone were to log into your computer over the internet or something like that every time it asks you to allow something it would jsut say you cant do that without administrative powers similarly for programs when a program tries to do something you havnt approved your computer stops it form doing that even if it is innocent because it could be malicious. This feature creates many Compatibility issues because what programs used to be permitted to do they cant anymore and some programs dont know how to handle that. Vista is BIG step foward in safety and Reliability, however as far as user firendlyness it could be called a bust. I think once all the kinks are out and Programmers get used to the added safety Vista will be far from a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 My dad tested Vista for a few months before it came out with HP and said it was absolutely awful. That seems to be the general consensus, and like everything else Microsoft has done lately it's just too gimmicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinerschas2 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 My dad tested Vista for a few months before it came out with HP and said it was absolutely awful. That seems to be the general consensus, and like everything else Microsoft has done lately it's just too gimmicky.might as well put in my $.02 I've been using vista on my main computer since january. However, i was leery so i installed XP to dual boot along with it so that if i ran into a problem, i could boot into xp and do my work there. 10 months later, this is how i've done my day to day stuff on my computer. Anything internet or media related i use vista (about 75% of my use). Any game whatsoever, i have to boot into XP to play any games (smoothly at 1280x1024 for any game), and get this. USE MY DVD BURNER in any way. Heres a quick pros and cons list i have found vista with. Pros: I love the organization of files, be it with photos, videos or music. I love that i can sort, rename and deal with hundreds of files at 1 time. Runs perfectly smooth on my computer. Can have multiple programs without worrying about a crash I love the live thumbnail preview of whatever you highlight on your taskbar. I'd love media center if i wasnt based off of itunes. I havent had too many problems with older programs CONS No matter what driver i use, i cannot get the same game performance that i can get with xp. I hate booting into xp for this. Will not install drivers for my SONY dvd burner, i've tried all the drivers. I have to boot into xp to use it at all. the built in wireless networking sucks. I could go on forever about that one. Runs a little slower. (plenty smooth, just slower) heres my comp specs. core 2 duo 4400 (2ghz) 2gb ddr2 800 ram geforce 7600gs 256mb graphics I'm getting close to ditching vista for awhile and shifting back to xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPaPa Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 vista is a major step up in security just not streamlined enough yet to make it palatable for most users. I run it very smoothly but ive had to disable all the bells and whistles along with several of the safety features. If you logged onto my computer outside of the logon screen you might think you were in XP Also I have gone through a large amount of trouble getting new hardware to work but almost always i can get ti to work though sometimes it took a week or more of tweaking and head scratching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildster Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I installed Vista Home Premium 32bit on my home-built computer last February and it drove me crazy until I turned the UAC off. I highly recommend that if you do turn UAC off, do it immediately after performing a clean install of Vista, and before you install anything else. After doing this and turning off the usual bunch of unnecessary services, it has been running great ever since. Extremely stable with 2gigs of RAM or more. That said, if you are considering a Vista upgrade and have a little bit of knowledge on how to keep out of trouble on the Internet or a network, I would wait to see what the rumored Windows XP SP3 is going to offer. Also, the first service pack for Vista has been pushed back into next year. I would wait for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 It's like MS made this OS to completely validate the Mac commercials poking fun at them. After six years of waiting, Vista only does one thing better than XP. It doesn't auto-select the file extension when you try to rename a file. I hope Leopard and the surging Mac sales really prompt Microsoft to actually give a damn the next time they give this OS thing a shot. The only way Windows will ever truly become great is if Microsoft loses the legacy ordeal and start again like Apple did with OS X. Never going to happen though. I understand Apple's first years with OS X weren't so good, but so far from what I've used and what I've seen, it's paid off big time. To be able to have transitioned from Classic to OS X and from Power PC to x86 and ARM totally in the space of 7 years has been remarkable. You could just never do it with Windows. The transition would take about 30 years and you'd still get resistance from all sides because some company wants to keep using crappy old parallel printers or 1.44MB floppy discs in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SESbb30 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 we have a laptop with vista, and we havent had any problems with it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil1182 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 The thing about Vista I don't like is of course the software compatibility, there are millions of programs for XP, and now we have to start over or wait for a compatible driver. Also, the hardware requirements, why in the world you need a minimum of 1gig of ram for a operating system? I bought a cheap laptop a few months ago, Celeron 1.5ghz, 512mb ram, 60 gig hard drive, and it says Vista ready, BS, Vista would barely run on it. So, I'm sticking with XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers94 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I have Vista on my laptop. It's not that bad, but there are a few things that are really annonying. To open a program, you usually have to open it as administrator or else it won't work. When you want to open a problem, it asks you "Are you sure?", which gets pretty annoying. If you are downloading fonts or stuff like that, you can't download it directly to that folder, you have to download it to a like downloads, pictures, etc. folder and then have to move it to the folder you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Turn of UAC and this will remove almost all of the "Do you really want to do this" prompts. This, will, however, massively increase your chances of screwing over your Windows install, especially if you are an idiot. UAC was designed for that particular section of the market. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmexico Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/windows...boost-with-sp3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliesphan18 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 It's like MS made this OS to completely validate the Mac commercials poking fun at them. :lmao: Wow, that sentence sums up my thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Shoot I can't even get my stupid XP computer to download SP2. Now there might be an SP3. I hate computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliesphan18 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Shoot I can't even get my stupid XP computer to download SP2. Now there might be an SP3. I hate computers.Really? SP3? I never heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezer Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Its either Vista that sucks or its my PC. Or both. But Vista always has blockers on just about everything that did not come with my PC. It also has a pop up that says allow or don't allow on everything downloaded from the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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