BigRog Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I'm giving him a hard time overall about selling the game for a profit. I never once did that. edit: Kraw, my portrait was for a player who got drafted in the amature draft last year, i believe. Not sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee4Life Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 No plural there, just one person. And I'm giving him a hard time because he's giving someone else a hard time... for things that he himself does. He's a hypocrite and needs to called out on it. Funny that you're going after me in a thread where we're both standing up for the same guy and agreeing on the same points... is it just the thrill of the fight for you? BigRog contributes as much as he can around here. I know he's not one of the super modders like all the guys who make the stadiums and uniforms, but he helps. I don't mind giving him a break. Maybe with encouragement he'll make more portraits. And I do not have any thrill fighting or talking with you. I know how much of a bang up job you do in being sarcastic towards people and I didn't want it to go further with that kid. not to draw this out any further because it has gone far enough, but I was under the impression all portraits were going to be redone when pressbox released this years photos. So no current portraits (except maybe some real low A guys who have no new photo) will be in the 08 mod And that right there should end this. When the pressbox people release the photos next month I am sure BigRog and many others can contribute a lot more photos for this upcoming mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmexico Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 BigRog contributes as much as he can around here. I know he's not one of the super modders like all the guys who make the stadiums and uniforms, but he helps. I don't mind giving him a break. Maybe with encouragement he'll make more portraits. And I do not have any thrill fighting or talking with you. I know how much of a bang up job you do in being sarcastic towards people and I didn't want it to go further with that kid. So wait Spungo, I help people as much as I can, by directing them to places where they can get what they ask for and contributing to threads and voicing my own opinion, sometimes even sparking a reaction, but since I have no photoshop skills I shouldn't be considered helping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 there are 3 types of contributing 1) making mods 2) helping others fix/install mods 3) donating money to members of 1 & 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmexico Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Ok, I guess I'm not a contributor... not gonna say it's amazing, but it's the best alternative for now, unless y'all have something better planned, and I don't have time to finish it with schoolwork and other complications involved in life. If you do have something better in the works, then I guess I won't be anything but a blemish on this community, via kraws definition. http://www.mvpmods.com/Downloads/details/id=3421.html Also I'd like to point out that me and bigrog do help with people installing mods, it's part of our community service that got us out of being spammers : P Though some like the sponge would beg to say that we still are them I'm sure, I just don't like to see people bullying others around on forums, which I consider a good place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Ok, I guess I'm not a contributor... I can think of at least one mod from you off the top of my head plus you help people with their MVP issues quit trying to pick a fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoCubs720 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The bottom line is it's getting really stupid that people can sell MVP 05 on the internet and pull in some heavy dough because of our work. I don't care what you say or how bad you might need money, but making money off of other peoples' free downloads is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thespungo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 So wait Spungo, I help people as much as I can, by directing them to places where they can get what they ask for and contributing to threads and voicing my own opinion, sometimes even sparking a reaction, but since I have no photoshop skills I shouldn't be considered helping? Come on man, don't put any more spin on this. I went after BIGroger because he's a hypocrite -- he's giving someone a hard time about not contributing when he himself contributes nothing. He deserved it, everyone knows it. And last time I checked, you put out a great progression and free agent mod, something I personally consider to be very important. In my opinion, the free agency and player progression in MVP 05 was horrible and you did us all a favor by correcting it -- you're a big time 'contributor' in my eyes. But like my favorite admin said, it doesn't matter if you contribute anything or not. A lot of people are here just to download the mods, and that's just fine by me. I make mods for those people, people who contribute, and everyone else in between -- my work is for everyone to enjoy. The problem here was someone who doesn't contribute going after someone else for 'not contributing'. I don't care if anyone 'contributes' or not, but I do care when BIGroger starts typing hypocritically... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee4Life Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The bottom line is it's getting really stupid that people can sell MVP 05 on the internet and pull in some heavy dough because of our work. I don't care what you say or how bad you might need money, but making money off of other peoples' free downloads is pathetic. No way you can dispute that. But once you put your work on the internet, it's impossible to control what people are going to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just because mods I have submitted aren't amazing like you doesn't mean I don't contribute. Its not much but it is contribution. As Ron said, I have helped people in the forums with installation issues and pointing them in the direction of mods. That is contributing also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee4Life Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Off topic for a second, but where'd you get the Red Sox theme for Firefox BigRog and do they have a Yankee one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 It was in the Mozilla themes. I just searched for it and found it. Don't know if there is a Yankee one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pujols Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee4Life Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thank you very much pujols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pujols Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 No problem man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP_Frost Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 "Let's dance, dickweed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoltinJoeCarter Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 i can't believe the game is selling for that high of a price - especialy the one that sold for $100. totally proved me wrong. sorry, i had no idea mvp 05 was scarce :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayxero Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 That was my point from the beginning. The mention on 08 has crap to do with my sale other then giving the buyer knowledge. So Cubs720, go Pop-shove it lol. Bad skater joke. It matters even less now that Totte wants the game and bid. If i had left the Buy it now up seeing that its only 4 dollars more than his bid then he would def have it. But some dude is bidding with him and i bet others will do the same last minute. And i want him to def win since i love his work with Ultimate rosters. Plus he needs a game for his friend, so another reason why the game sells itself. People can say as they wish but if i wish to sell it and make a decent amount then why not. That is like me selling a Xbox 360 for retail on ebay when it first came out in 05 and we know those easily went for double their worth. Stop hating as they say. Case closed. This should be the last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoCubs720 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 That was my point from the beginning. The mention on 08 has crap to do with my sale other then giving the buyer knowledge. So Cubs720, go Pop-shove it lol. Bad skater joke. It matters even less now that Totte wants the game and bid. If i had left the Buy it now up seeing that its only 4 dollars more than his bid then he would def have it. But some dude is bidding with him and i bet others will do the same last minute. And i want him to def win since i love his work with Ultimate rosters. Plus he needs a game for his friend, so another reason why the game sells itself. People can say as they wish but if i wish to sell it and make a decent amount then why not. That is like me selling a Xbox 360 for retail on ebay when it first came out in 05 and we know those easily went for double their worth. Stop hating as they say. Case closed. This should be the last post. Unfortunately, that's really all I can do. I mod for myself, but I'm willing to share it with others. As Y4L said, how they use it is up to them. But I guess the least you could do is show some respect to a person who's helping you get your money, instead of telling them to shove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayxero Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 You expect something when you came in here with your little comment? Trying to call people pathetic. hmmm, You receive no cool points sir. Ill thank everyone except you for the mods i use for my game. And especially thank Totte for UR, and hope he wins my auction. Even without my post here I still highly believe I would have my bids even without mention of this site. Its ebay for gosh sakes, If you want something you def would think to go there. So you sir are mistaken in saying you are helping me make money. Ea is for having discontinued sale of this game and not producing new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoCubs720 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 You expect something when you came in here with your little comment? Trying to call people pathetic. hmmm, You receive no cool points sir. Ill thank everyone except you for the mods i use for my game. And especially thank Totte for UR, and hope he wins my auction. Even without my post here I still highly believe I would have my bids even without mention of this site. Its ebay for gosh sakes, If you want something you def would think to go there. So you sir are mistaken in saying you are helping me make money. Ea is for having discontinued sale of this game and not producing new ones. Look, I'm not going to argue with you, it's not worth my time. Whether you want to believe it or not, you are pathetic for making money off of other peoples' hard work. I'm not the only one who thinks this, many other modders do also. Don't just hate me, I was nice and tried to leave you with a little dignity in my last post. I could have ripped you a new one for insulting me, but I didn't. You're flat out wrong, and allow me to explain it to you: It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. Take a look at the listings for High Heat Baseball 2004: http://search.ebay.com/High-Heat-Baseball-...QsaobfmtsZinsif Many people still enjoy playing that game, but very little modding is being done for it. As you can see, people aren't paying nearly as much for it as they are for MVP 2005. You argue that modding is because of MVP's popularity. I argue that MVP's popularity is because of modding. Your arguement has no merit. If it did, wouldn't people be paying just as much for it on other consoles? Why don't you take a look for yourself: http://search.ebay.com/MVP-Baseball-2005_W...1QQsacatZQ2d100 http://search.ebay.com/MVP-Baseball-2005_W...1QQsacatZQ2d100 http://search.ebay.com/MVP-Baseball-2005_W...1QQsacatZQ2d100 Isn't that strange? The game is exactly the same on all consoles (except for the Xbox version that contains some textures in higher resolutions), yet people are paying significantly less for it for Xbox, GameCube, and PS2. I hope you buy something nice for yourself with the money you make! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayxero Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Again i will say this. Is anyone pathetic for selling the xbox 360 for way over retail value two years ago when it was microsofts hard work? Its general supply and demand, simple economics. You say all this as if I am trying to make money off of everyones work. Its as simple as this I bought this game. Mods were made. I played with mods. Had fun. I am selling my game. The fact that others pay high for it does not mean i am trying to use mvpmods. It means I am paying attention to the law of supply and demand and paying attention to market value. You still fail to realize that even if i did not post here or mention mvpmods that id still make the same amount of money. Look whos bidding, Totte surely would of found my auction without mvpmods post. Ebay is fairly popular i would think =P. So if some guy on ebay made 90 bux from selling his pc game and was not a member here and didnt even mention the mods, wouldnt he be juyst as guilty as you try to make me? =/ As we both have no intent to make profit off of mvpmodders work. It is called economics my friend. I am done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoCubs720 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 You still fail to realize that even if i did not post here or mention mvpmods that id still make the same amount of money. This is correct, but only because people already know beforehand that people are modding MVP and that mvpmods and eamods exists. You should already understand this Mr. Economics. Do you think mvpmods and eamods are just blips on the radar? This place has had articles written about it in gaming magazines. Why are people paying $100 for the PC version, yet only a couple bucks for any other version? Just for the heck of it? It's the same game. People are paying top dollar for this game because it's constantly being updated here and at eamods. Here's my little economics lesson for you: High Heat Baseball 2004: supply=low demand=low cost=low MVP Baseball 2005: supply=low demand=high cost=high What's missing? They're both fun PC baseball games that are a couple of years old, why aren't they valued the same? It's because one is still being updated, one is not. Any way you look at it, you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayxero Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Oh wells, seems we will have to just disagree on this one. No hair off my back. Ill just finish my sale and be happy. I just hope everyone else who sells their copies gets the same guff, funny how the other topics didnt nearly get this much attention nor same sort of response. Meh o wells. Ill just enjoy my game the same way i always have and not worry about forum dudes-_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiheat32 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 sigh, back in economics class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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