carpenter Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Just a tribute to one of the greatest sportsmen ever. Incredible talent, always on the field, unlimited love for the GAME and toughness. He made me fall in love with football and the Packers. The nfl won't be the same without number 4 running out of the tunnel at Lambeau. Good luck for the rest of your life, captain! Post your thoughts and your best Favre memories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dude is a legend but I have to say about friggen time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrigleyville33 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dude is a legend but I have to say about friggen time. Uhh, he was only 38 or 39. I mean there are a couple of qb's that are in their 40's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_rich Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Without doubt, Brett Favre is a first-ballot NFL Hall of Famer. As a guy living in Wisconsin, I'm sure you can picture all the sad faces of Packer fans walking around town today. It's safe to say that Favre did everything he wanted to accomplish in his overall career... win a Super Bowl, break numerous NFL passing records, capture the hearts of millions of football fans (not just Packer fans)... not bad for a guy drafted by Atlanta that loved to party a little too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 He's the best QB of all time, of course he's 1st ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Uhh, he was only 38 or 39. I mean there are a couple of qb's that are in their 40's. and only a couple QBs put up the number he put up last season But with his retirement at least I have no reason to follow the NFL anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ro290190 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmexico Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 He's the best QB of all time, of course he's 1st ballot. o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbaseball Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 To me, it's almost impossible to argue otherwise. Montana is very very close, but when you combine Favre's durability and wins, there's no one better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmexico Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 As a Jets fan I can say this because he never actually won anything, but I'd say Dan Marino was better, though I'd say Montana was also better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryrat Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Here comes the "Whose better" debates, again. Regardless of who everyone thinks is the best QB of all-time, the NFL loses one of its best ambassadors. Even as a devout Chicago Bears fan, I am a bit saddened by his retirement. I grew up watching him play every Sunday, and it won't be the same without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaysFTW Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Step out the way Favre. It's the Vikings time to shine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jefe061 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 To me, it's almost impossible to argue otherwise. Montana is very very close, but when you combine Favre's durability and wins, there's no one better. Toughest QB (Easily Brett Favre) and best QB are two very different things. Some facts (off the top of my head, which I read somewhere) about Favre in the Playoffs since 1997: -Two of the worst playoff interceptions of all time (This year and the one from the 4th and 26 game) -16 Touchdowns and 18 Interceptions -Green Bay has lost more playoff games since 2001 than between 1921 and 2001. Not only does Favre have the most INTs all time, but his positive passing records are helped by the fact that he has a ridiculous number of attempts over all of the other great QB's. Nothing against Favre, he is a tough SOB and a great QB, but his recent playoff failures (I don't mention his record since 1997 because I don't remember for sure, but it's in the 3-7 range I think) and ridiculous amount of attempts don't make him the best ever. Elway, Marino, or Montana, but not Favre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpenter Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Toughest QB (Easily Brett Favre) and best QB are two very different things. Some facts (off the top of my head, which I read somewhere) about Favre in the Playoffs since 1997: -Two of the worst playoff interceptions of all time (This year and the one from the 4th and 26 game) -16 Touchdowns and 18 Interceptions -Green Bay has lost more playoff games since 2001 than between 1921 and 2001. Not only does Favre have the most INTs all time, but his positive passing records are helped by the fact that he has a ridiculous number of attempts over all of the other great QB's. Nothing against Favre, he is a tough SOB and a great QB, but his recent playoff failures (I don't mention his record since 1997 because I don't remember for sure, but it's in the 3-7 range I think) and ridiculous amount of attempts don't make him the best ever. Elway, Marino, or Montana, but not Favre. I don't think a playoff win or loss depends only on the QB. If so,Trent Dilfer wouldn't have won a Superbowl. Sure, Favre did ,make a bunch of arguable decisions in his career and we tend to remember the playoff ones, but that was his way of playing, I'd say a "childlish" way, meaning with the same enthusiasm a child would have playing in front of such an audience. Maybe some of his mistakes costed the Packers some games, but ask every fan...I think no one would swap Brett Favre with any other QB in the history of football. And that's because no one makes you hold your breath that way anytime he pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesmvp04 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 He was no doubt one of the best. He probably wanted to retire when he just finished strong. It wouldn't be that good if he played bad next season and then retired. Remember what happened with Steve McNair last season? I do think though that this might give the Packers a reason to start running the ball more. I think their lack of a running game cost them on quite a few occasions, including their playoff loss. If all you know how to do is send 5 wide recievers on the field on every play, you won't win every time. Good teams have multi-dimensional, i.e., they are good in most if not all aspects. Hopefully, the Packers will run more and develop a more diverse offense that will help them go to the Super Bowl sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully04 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Toughest QB (Easily Brett Favre) and best QB are two very different things. Some facts (off the top of my head, which I read somewhere) about Favre in the Playoffs since 1997: -Two of the worst playoff interceptions of all time (This year and the one from the 4th and 26 game) -16 Touchdowns and 18 Interceptions -Green Bay has lost more playoff games since 2001 than between 1921 and 2001. Not only does Favre have the most INTs all time, but his positive passing records are helped by the fact that he has a ridiculous number of attempts over all of the other great QB's. Nothing against Favre, he is a tough SOB and a great QB, but his recent playoff failures (I don't mention his record since 1997 because I don't remember for sure, but it's in the 3-7 range I think) and ridiculous amount of attempts don't make him the best ever. Elway, Marino, or Montana, but not Favre. I'll give you the fact that he was sometime inconsistent in the playoffs, but there are some points I have to argue here. -The more playoff losses argument is completely ridiculous. Considering there wasnt an actual playoff system in the NFL until 1967. The 2 best teams record wise simply played a championship game. And for many of the years there was a gradually expanding playoffs Green Bay was terrible, and couldn't lose in the playoffs because they couldn't make the playoffs. You're actually comparing teams with decades of losing records to the Packers of the last 10 years, that includes only 1 losing season. The all-time interception number is in a similar situation, it's inflated by the extra attempts you knock him for later. TD-INT ration would be a better stat to look at, which probably places him maybe slightly higher than middle of the road. -Most of all I feel you discount the value of his durability. You state that his extra attempts invalidate his higher totals, but he was only capable of these higher attempts because of his amazing durability. That durability has value and should definitely be considered when comparing him to the other greats, and I feel that it is this durability that validates those extra attempts. In my eyes for his competitive spirit, achievement, and most importantly absolute love for the game that was evident every time he stepped on the field and everything he did there, he is the greatest QB of all time, and maybe the greatest example of the ideal football player of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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