baseballfans Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/28/nation...hs-first-pitch/ George W. Bush will throw the ceremonial first pitch Sunday at Nationals Park, new home of the Washington Nationals. The president who is concerned about substance abuse in baseball winds up and throws the ceremonial pitch to a catcher linked to substance abuse. To avoid a potentially dicey situation, General Manager Jim Bowden informed catcher Paul Lo Duca that the honor instead will go to Manager Manny Acta. Did Bush object to throwing to Lo Duca? MLB.com reports this response from Lo Duca: “Im not mad at all.†Update: Bush will appear on ESPN. Will he answer any question regarding MLB Steroids policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brutushayesosu Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 But yet, he's willing to send men and women to die in the desert based upon a bunch of lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLegend Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 But yet, he's willing to send men and women to die in the desert based upon a bunch of lies. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlot Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Theres no proof that Bush actually made this happen. EDIT: for this 1st pitch, because in general I just can't say this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Bush is against performance-enhancing drugs, despite his own storied history of drug usage and criminal background? Now there's some hypocrisy for your ***! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupeFiasco Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 quit bashing bush and george bush never did drugs or have a criminal background so get your facts straightened out a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Bush took a transfer to the Alabama Air National Guard in 1972 to work on a Republican senate campaign, and in October 1973 he was discharged from the Texas Air National Guard almost eight months early to attend Harvard Business School and completed his six-year service obligation in the inactive reserve.[21] There are a number of accounts of substance abuse and otherwise disorderly conduct by Bush from this time. Bush has admitted to drinking "too much" in those years and described this period of his life as his "nomadic" period of "irresponsible youth".[22] On September 4, 1976, at the age of 30, Bush was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol (DUI) near his family's summer home in Kennebunkport, Maine. He pled guilty, was fined US$150, and had his driver's license suspended in Maine until 1978. Edit: I was to harsh in what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Wasn't Bush the owner of the Rangers at the start of the Steroid Era in which at least a few Rangers were taking Steroids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogar84 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 His image as the president is separate from his own private life, some of you are being unfair. Technically he's suppose to represent the American people so not pitching to that cheating sleazeball Lo Duca is the right thing no matter what you think of Bush. Anyway, how the hell is this real news? Just play the stupid game already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 There is no way I'm getting into a political debate over this, but the guy is an ex-cocaine, alcohol and marijuana abuser and criminal. Saying his public and private life should be seen and treated as separate is way off base, and completely goes against the values of being president. I'm not even American, and I know that - not because it's actual knowledge, because it's common sense. A person with a terrible reputation and a shambolic private life should not be elected into the role of a public figure. And if I'm wrong, then I guess a certain William Clinton can become un-impeached and be re-voted back into the White House. Pick your poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupeFiasco Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 then i guess if you say that markb then obama shouldnt be elected president should he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 There is no way I'm getting into a political debate over this, but the guy is an ex-cocaine, alcohol and marijuana abuser and criminal. Saying his public and private life should be seen and treated as separate is way off base, and completely goes against the values of being president. I'm not even American, and I know that - not because it's actual knowledge, because it's common sense. A person with a terrible reputation and a shambolic private life should not be elected into the role of a public figure. And if I'm wrong, then I guess a certain William Clinton can become un-impeached and be re-voted back into the White House. Pick your poison. Don't you realize that everything is political and every conversation eventually turns into a political debate? That is why I'm substaining from everything this year. LOL Bush is doing the right thing in this instance. And from reading everything he has to say, I'd say MarkB for president but I forgot about the little thing known as the Constitution. I wonder if anyone else forgot about the Constitution as well. * Imagine how much better life would be if every conversation in life would turn into a baseball debate instead of a political one.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catzrthecoolest Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Edit: I was to harsh in what I said. well, if wikipedia said it, then it has to be true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnymvp Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 President Bush won’t pitch to Steriods user Paul Lo Duca If you are going to make a thread titled this atleast slip in the word alegidly since this isn't a known fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Everybody shut up about Bush's life and stick to the topic. You guys cry about this enough in the shoutbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautrec Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 There is no way I'm getting into a political debate over this, but the guy is an ex-cocaine, alcohol and marijuana abuser and criminal. Saying his public and private life should be seen and treated as separate is way off base, and completely goes against the values of being president. I'm not even American, and I know that - not because it's actual knowledge, because it's common sense. A person with a terrible reputation and a shambolic private life should not be elected into the role of a public figure. And if I'm wrong, then I guess a certain William Clinton can become un-impeached and be re-voted back into the White House.Pick your poison. I'm getting pretty close to being sick over American presidential politics. Why do we think ANY politician gives one iota of a crap about us? McCain, Hillary, Osama Barak, they're all worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennsing Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Let it be known that I am responding to no-one in particular, just venting...perhaps this isn't the right venue, this being a baseball video game forum, but I had to get this off my chest...forgive me. It never ceases to amaze me how everyone forgets that it was Congress that voted to attack Iraq based upon information that, at the time, was thought to be true. I love all the hindsight geniuses and history revisionists we have in this country. Let's not forget that less than 5 years prior to our attack on Iraq during Desert Storm, back in the 90's, Saddam used a deadly nerve agent on his own people, killing tens of thousands. I suppose that all of you who jumped on the bandwagon when WMDs could not be found, knew for sure that Saddam didn't have them before our invasion. Where were you and this amazing knowledge? Why weren't any of you beating down the doors of Congress? We took a crap shoot and made a hasty decision based upon what was thought to be the right action for our country, at the time. Never mind that we took a sadistic tyrant out of power. A man who killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, who lobbed scuds into Israel and Egypt when he was losing in Kuwait. A man who's regime led to the racial cleansing of thousands in ways not seen since the Third Reich. But you go ahead and tell us how all of you know so much, now. How you would have made better decisions. How you wouldn't have done the same. Join all the others who were cheering the downfall of Saddam one day and abandoned our president's decision when it didn't turn out perfect the next. President Bush has disappointed me in thousands of ways. But I will never bash his decision to go into Iraq. It was the right thing to do. Not only for the citizens of the United States, but for the citizens of Iraq and the world. Men like Saddam cannot be tolerated, period. May this be an exciting baseball season! Good luck to all of you! Go Dodgers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnymvp Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 You said it very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbycards Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Let it be known that I am responding to no-one in particular, just venting...perhaps this isn't the right venue, this being a baseball video game forum, but I had to get this off my chest...forgive me. It never ceases to amaze me how everyone forgets that it was Congress that voted to attack Iraq based upon information that, at the time, was thought to be true. I love all the hindsight geniuses and history revisionists we have in this country. Let's not forget that less than 5 years prior to our attack on Iraq during Desert Storm, back in the 90's, Saddam used a deadly nerve agent on his own people, killing tens of thousands. I suppose that all of you who jumped on the bandwagon when WMDs could not be found, knew for sure that Saddam didn't have them before our invasion. Where were you and this amazing knowledge? Why weren't any of you beating down the doors of Congress? We took a crap shoot and made a hasty decision based upon what was thought to be the right action for our country, at the time. Never mind that we took a sadistic tyrant out of power. A man who killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, who lobbed scuds into Israel and Egypt when he was losing in Kuwait. A man who's regime led to the racial cleansing of thousands in ways not seen since the Third Reich. But you go ahead and tell us how all of you know so much, now. How you would have made better decisions. How you wouldn't have done the same. Join all the others who were cheering the downfall of Saddam one day and abandoned our president's decision when it didn't turn out perfect the next. President Bush has disappointed me in thousands of ways. But I will never bash his decision to go into Iraq. It was the right thing to do. Not only for the citizens of the United States, but for the citizens of Iraq and the world. Men like Saddam cannot be tolerated, period. May this be an exciting baseball season! Good luck to all of you! Go Dodgers! Very well put :yeah: :wtg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballfans Posted March 30, 2008 Author Share Posted March 30, 2008 Do you guy think ESPN will ask President Bush about MLB Steroids policy? Or you think they will even avoid question regarding Clemens who seem to be very good friend of the Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emanuelsaavedra Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 this is kind of funny. Please remember that this is a baseball forum first of all, and second. American presidents have been less than perfect and still the US is the greatest superpower in the world. Take Harry Truman for example. perhaps one of the best presidents in our history. The guy would curse time and time again in front of Congress and National TV. There is a story where they mentioned how he rallied the troops during WWII using "language that is not appropriate under any circumstances" Throughout our history our presidents have been slaveowners, drunks, gamblers, fighters, etc, etc. And in that list are men like Lincon, Washington, Jefferson, Truman, and many other great men. Remember, even though they are presidents, they are still human beings who will make mistakes. Their job is to run a country not to be saints. NOW BACK TO BASEBALL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Learn how to stay on a topic guys. The thread is about President Bush not throwing the first pitch of the season to Paul LoDuca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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