HardcoreLegend Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: Smile, HCL, smile. I've never seen anyone so constantly unhappy around this site. Even RQ and I are able to joke around sometimes. Says the guy who constantly complains about how his 2-time-World-Series-champion-in-the-last-4-years organization is run. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorQuiz Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: Smile, HCL, smile. I've never seen anyone so constantly unhappy around this site. Even RQ and I are able to joke around sometimes. I don't get it. HL didn't seem to be being crabby or ignorant just now. I do have a related question. Sean O, you were saying a potential problem w/ EC is that a victim could be too embarassed/ashamed/confused to go to their doctor soon enough after an attack to get the EC in time. HL was saying a visit to any clinic (or in some cases, pharmacies) can get you EC, as a doctor's visit is not neccessary. Is this not the case in all states? I don't have many facts on this one. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorQuiz Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: Says the guy who constantly complains about how his 2-time-World-Series-champion-in-the-last-4-years organization is run. Says the guy who constantly complains about how his 1-time-World-Series-champion-in-the-last-2-years organization is run. :wink: tee hee. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLegend Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: Says the guy who constantly complains about how his 1-time-World-Series-champion-in-the-last-2-years organization is run. :wink: tee hee. THEY SUCK! :D Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesmvp04 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: What do you mean carrying it for a while? Are rape babies known immediately to the mother/victim, as opposed to every other pregnancy? My guess is, when the rape victim finds out she's pregnant, while she's dealing with the emotional and physical effects of the attack, she wants to abort that kid pretty quickly. Once again, I ask, have any of you ever been close to a victim of sexual assault? I see that you referred to the supposed nonhuman in the woman's womb as a "kid." That proves my sociological point that deep down, we really believe that fetuses are human. We're just too stubborn to break from our ancient, outdated, unscientific cultural philosphy that until the child exits the womb, it is nothing more than blob of nothing. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean O Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: I see that you referred to the supposed nonhuman in the woman's womb as a "kid." That proves my sociological point that deep down, we really believe that fetuses are human. We're just too stubborn to break from our ancient, outdated, unscientific cultural philosphy that until the child exits the womb, it is nothing more than blob of nothing. Yeah, you... got me there? The way I see it, fetuses are wholly nonfunctional "blobs of nothing." This country has virtually no protection against murdering and torturing creatures far more capable of feeling pain, and with far higher functionality, without batting an eye. It's not murder when you drown a cat, but it is when you fish a sack of goo out of a uterus. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhiggy1961 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: Yeah, you... got me there? The way I see it, fetuses are wholly nonfunctional "blobs of nothing." This country has virtually no protection against murdering and torturing creatures far more capable of feeling pain, and with far higher functionality, without batting an eye. It's not murder when you drown a cat, but it is when you fish a sack of goo out of a uterus. Wow I hope you realize there is a huge difference between a cat and a human. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesmvp04 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 This argument is going to go nowhere and only lead to more antagonistic feelings between us in addition to what already exists. You have your view, I have mine. So, let's talk about something else. I suggest we change the subject to the environment. What's your opinion on global warming? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: This argument is going to go nowhere and only lead to more antagonistic feelings between us in addition to what already exists. You have your view, I have mine. So, let's talk about something else. I suggest we change the subject to the environment. What's your opinion on global warming? There are three topics that I tell coworkers that should be off-limits at work: Politics, Religion and Pro-Life/Pro-Choice. All these topics sometimes lead to heated arguments and everyone views their belief as right and the other is wrong no matter which side you're on. This is not the case if everyone involved is open minded to at least the point where they accept that other people will have a differing view or if you know they share the same view. I work for a government agency so the politics is hard to escape and when a while ago I was asked which candidate I supported, I was criticized for saying that all the candidates are all the same after telling them five times that I don't talk about politics at work. Suffice to say, it angered them more. LOL BTW ... Global Warming ... some believe there's no such thing. Some others believe it's going to be a big issue and is already happening. There's proof but professionals interpret the proof to suit their own belief of For or Against it. And besides, I think Global Warming is very good. Only if we can get more of it. I don't have to buy that many winter clothing anymore and we all know that winter clothes can be more expensive. Plus, I hate shoveling snow. J/K :) Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayxero Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: Wow I hope you realize there is a huge difference between a cat and a human.A life is a ******* life. No matter if you are human or small bird. I love my cat, and its caturday dammit. Wheres the new pics! lol Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 \ said: Wow I hope you realize there is a huge difference between a cat and a human.You want to know the huge difference, A cat is actually a living breathing life form while a blob a nothing is just that, nothing. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 To go kind of off topic for a bit, Front line on PBS (NY Area) is now having an episode about Bush's administration regarding Iraq. Part 1 of 2. A history of the Iraq War that features both new and archival reporting, beginning in the year following 9/11, when the Bush administration was discussing the idea of ousting Saddam Hussein's regime. Included: divisions within the administration on the matter; what role the UN should play; whether intelligence linking Hussein to Al Qaeda could be trusted. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhiggy1961 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 \ said: You want to know the huge difference, A cat is actually a living breathing life form while a blob a nothing is just that, nothing. You are kidding, I hope. If you are actually comparing the value of a cats life to that of a human fetus then you are truly too far gone for me to even debate you. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 If you are saying that Cats (or other animals) are valued less than people, then you should talk to those who have Cats or Dogs as pets. Also, talk to those from PETA. LOL Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I'm telling you that until the legal mester that the thing inside the women is considered a living fetus and can not be aborted I consider it nothing but a blob that isn't living. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesmvp04 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 \ said: If you are saying that Cats (or other animals) are valued less than people, then you should talk to those who have Cats or Dogs as pets. Also, talk to those from PETA. LOL As a Christian, I believe that humans are more important than animals. However, I believe that God loves animals and we humans are given the task of caring for them. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 \ said: As a Christian, I believe that humans are more important than animals. However, I believe that God loves animals and we humans are given the task of caring for them. I know. Me too but some people with dogs and cats I know think of them as part of the family and value their life just as much if not more than some of their family. And I don't know what those involved with PETA think but I would tend to think they do the same if not definately more so. But, I do find it funny that some people with certain view points where they view life to be very important and sacred have no similar view point towards another issue where life should be just as important or sacred. But, I guess that's how life is. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhiggy1961 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I think anyone who would kill a cat should be punished. The point I was making is that a human life is more valuable. I think you would have a hard time getting a capital punishment law passed for killing a cat. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meteamo Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 \ said: I think anyone who would kill a cat should be punished. The point I was making is that a human life is more valuable. I think you would have a hard time getting a capital punishment law passed for killing a cat. I understand. But, how about if it happened on Caturday? What do people think will be the biggest issue in the election? Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesmvp04 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 \ said: I think anyone who would kill a cat should be punished. The point I was making is that a human life is more valuable. I think you would have a hard time getting a capital punishment law passed for killing a cat. There already are laws in place against abuse of animals. Look at what happened to Michael Vick. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkharsh33 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 \ said: I'm telling you that until the legal mester that the thing inside the women is considered a living fetus and can not be aborted I consider it nothing but a blob that isn't living. thankfully your mom didn't feel that way about you... Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean O Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 \ said: Wow I hope you realize there is a huge difference between a cat and a human. Yeah, cats and other animals don't commit genocide. Humans are disgusting, vile, selfish creatures. The 20th century gave us some tremendous examples of the depths of what humans can accomplish. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRog Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 \ said: thankfully your mom didn't feel that way about you...Ya she wouldn't because I wasn't a mistake or the result of a rape. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckdodger215 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 \ said: Not everyone can fly around for 8 hours trying to miscarry after the water breaks. i'm sorry, but what exactly does this have to do with anything? nothing. thanks. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckdodger215 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 when in the hell is this thread going to get off the abortion bit and back to actual discussions on the candidates Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/34437-official-political-republicandemocrat-debate-thread/page/17/#findComment-535885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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