mrg1 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 So what do people outside of St. Louis think of McGwire? He used andro, but it was legal at the time. His increase in size suggest that he may have been taking a little something else at the time as well, but there has been no evidence turning up against him. Here in St. Louis, he's like a god, but im interested to know how others see him. Good guy or cheater? At the very least, I would think that most would agree that he isnt as much of a cheater as bonds or sosa :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDiddy Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I dont like McGwire. He cheated... he just did it at the right time. Performance enhancing drugs is peformance enhancing drugs... period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 He is as much cheater as Bonds :cry: and Giambi.... He just (like Kc said) cheated at the right time, I think everybody who cheats is a cheater.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzone Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 so i cheat...does that make me a cheater?..no, it does not my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDiddy Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Yes, if you cheat you're a cheater. Whats most important is the extend of the cheating. In a steroidic case its pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sask3m Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 according to conti just about everyone in sports is cheating but they don't think of it as cheating just keeping up with the jones's, actually i could care less if they take steroids, in fact the farther the ball goes the better i like it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegz Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 according to conti just about everyone in sports is cheating but they don't think of it as cheating just keeping up with the jones's, actually i could care less if they take steroids, in fact the farther the ball goes the better i like it now thats just stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Well after all it was what brought baseball back to the fans after the strike of '94, right?...the longball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sask3m Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 now thats just stupid stupid is as stupid does, i always say, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 stupid is as stupid does, i always say, lol. OK Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I think they should clear up baseball, like a revolution! Test everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kccitystar Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 they should do the NFL type of steroid testing, where you can't even take nyquil unless you have the league consent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 they should do the NFL type of steroid testing, where you can't even take nyquil unless you have the league consent ahha...nodding.... :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYYKing Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 there's no doubt that he cheated. So did many other Major Leaguers. Homerun totals don't simply skyrocket to 60+ per season and then all of a sudden drop back down to the point where noone hits 50+ homeruns. the game hasn't been clean for at least a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutombo Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Just have to add that Big Mac flirted with 50 homers when he was a rookie. The power was always there for him. He was never a great average guy, yeah he bulked up, but the andro was for a troubling back condition, and as soon as he found out it was bothering people, he stopped taking it. Still hit 60+ that next year too. Nonetheless, andro could be bought at any health store and was legal in the MLB at that time, the steroids we are discussing in today's news have always been illegal. In my eyes, that makes it a different scenario. At least he never corked his bat. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee4Life Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 McGwire is retired now. You can't touch him. So whatever he did or did not do is a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPrelesnik Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 cheating is cheating mac and bonds and giami and half the mlb are all cheaters. legal or not its still wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69Yanks Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 In my heart and mind, Maris' record still stands. Now consider Mantle: As far as strength, compare the home run distances of Mickey Mantle verses McGwire without a beefed up ball and the mound being higher which helped the pitchers. For the comparision, see the site: http://www.themick.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 In my heart and mind, Maris' record still stands. Now consider Mantle: As far as strength, compare the home run distances of Mickey Mantle verses McGwire without a beefed up ball and the mound being higher which helped the pitchers. For the comparision, see the site: http://www.themick.com/ I know Mick hit some LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG home-runs... But come on, 734 Feet? That is complete bull.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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