25 Man All Time Team

[Yankee4Life]

that would be the challenge to all of this. if you change the rules, it's no longer the same game.

Let him make his own list then Homer. The way you set it up is just fine. I've been so busy since you started this thread that I never posted mine yet. I'll try to do it this week but I'll be sure not to make two different lists.

[2kdrooler]

Wow the possibilities, but this is the team I'd want on the field

SP Lefty Grove

SP Walter Johnson

SP Steve Carlton

SP Pedro Martinez

SP Bob Gibson

RP Hoyt Wilhelm

RP Mariano Rivera

RP Dennis Eckersley

RP Billy Wagner (need a lefty arm)

CP Rollie Fingers

1 Honus Wagner SS

2 Rogers Hornsby 2B

3 Babe Ruth RF

4 Lou Gehrig 1B

5 Ted Williams LF

6 Willie Mays CF

7 Mike Schmidt 3B

8 Johnny Bench C

9 pitcher spot

Bench

1B Jimmie Foxx

2B Joe Morgan

3B Brooks Robinson

SS Cal Ripken Jr

LF Stan Musial

CF Ty Cobb

RF Hank Aaron

C Yogi Berra

[Red14]

SP- Satchel Paige

SP- Nolan Ryan

SP- Randy Johnson

SP- Sandy Koufax

SP- Bob Gibson

RP- John Wetland

RP- Trevor Hoffman

RP- Rollie Fingers

RP- Dennis Eckersley

CP- Mariano Rivera

Batting Order

1- Honus Wagner (SS)

2- Rogers Hornsby (2B)

3- Lou Gehrig (1B)

4- Babe Ruth (RF)

5- Ted Williams (LF)

6- Mike Schmidt (3B)

7- Willie Mays (CF)

8- Yadier Molina

9- Pitcher (DH is for chumps)

7 man Bench

Johnny Bench ©

Jimmie Foxx (1B)

Mel Ott (OF)

Rod Carew (MIF)

Derek Jeter (MIF)

Jim Edmonds (OF)

Hank Aaron (OF)

[jollydodger]

Gonna go 5 starters, 6 relievers, no DH, 8 position players, 6 bench

SP - funny thing is, you could totally exclude about 60 years of baseball history and make a perfect staff from pre-1920 and post-1980 pitchers.

Matthewson, Young, Johnson, Nichols, Alexander........Maddux, Johnson, Martinez, Clemens, take 5 from those, and you're never wrong. However, I think the staff should represent all eras.

RP - obviously we're talking about the 3-inning save guys vs. the 1-inning save guys. Again, a mix is best. Rivera and Eckersley are the obvious guys, but there are other things I'd want - lefties, non-flame-throwers, etc.

My staff:

W.Johnson - what he did for the IP...insane

L. Grove - just great, nothing to criticize

T.Seaver - best of his era, over Palmer

S.Koufax - preposterous peaks

R.Clemens - of the recent guys, combination of wins, Ks, ERA, longevity wins out

M.Rivera - the best

D.Eckersley - video game stats

B.Wagner - untouchable lefty

H.Wilhelm - different era, knuckleball amid the smoke

R.Fingers - started and closed, great guy to have (a la Smoltz)

R.Gossage - multi-inning finisher

C - defense first? Piazza had the most pop, but a defensive position first, like SS

J.Bench - offense + defense = best

1B - surprisingly shallow, in terms of all-time greats

L.Gehrig - obvious

2B - 3-headed monster at the top, can't go wrong with any

E.Collins - great all-around

3B - power vs avg, think it comes down to Schmidt vs Brett

M.Schmidt - take his power

SS - defense-first position, only one choice

H.Wagner

LF - plenty of talent here

T.Williams

CF - like 2B, 3-headed monster, just depends on what you value

W.Mays

RF - deep position, but obvious choice

B.Ruth

Bench - real bench, backup catcher, corner IF, middle IF, 2 OF....mix of R/L, defensive specialists, speed guy, etc.

C - Y.Berra...3 MVPs, great all-around, plus play LF

1B - J.Foxx...righty pure power

SS - O.Smith...best defensive SS ever, could also run

OF - B.Bonds...patient, could run early, could rake late, lefty hitter

OF - T.Cobb...will take his wheels over Mantle's pop

Starting lineup:

1.Collins

2.Wagner

3.Ruth

4.Gehrig

5.Williams

6.Mays

7.Schmidt

8.Bench

[zzcoolj21]

SP - Pedro Martinez
SP - Greg Maddux
SP - Sandy Koufax
SP - Randy Johnson
SP - Lefty Grove

CL - Mariano Rivera

SS - Ozzie Smith
CF - Ken Griffey Jr
LF - Rickey Henderson
RF - Roberto Clemente
2B - Craig Biggio
1B - Albert Pujols
3B - Chipper Jones
C - Yadier Molina