Accused of Cheating???...

[APR]

I was playing online, vs. this kid named TheGriff06 ok. So were playing and he is swinging at everything, seriously. So I throw 3 pitches in a row out of the strike zone and he swings at every one of 'em. He gets on and chat calls me some unmentionables on this board because I threw pitches outside and he swung at em. So I end up beating him 3-0. Not a beat down in any respect, but he is going on an on about my mom and stuff like that. So I leave without saying a word.

Then, when back to the lobby screen I warn everyone about playing this kid. He swears and tries to be condescending. So he said I threw 8 balls in a row out of the strike zone, which is a lie, I only threw 3. So this other guy comes out of nowhere and says throwing out of the strike zone is cheating.

Do you guys agree that throwing the ball out of the strike zone would be cheating???

[RonBurgundy]

I was playing online, vs. this kid named TheGriff06 ok. So were playing and he is swinging at everythnig, seriously. So I throw 3 pitches in a row out of the strike zone and he swings at every one of 'em. He gets on and chat calls me some unmentionables on this board because I threw pitches outside and he swung at em. So I end up beating him 3-0. Not a beat down in any respect, but he is going on an on about my mom and stuff like that. So I leave without saying a word.

Then, when back to the lobby screen I warn everyone about playing this kid. He swears and tries to be condescending. So he said I threw 8 balls in a row out of the strike zone, which is a lie, I only threw 3. So this other guy comes out of nowhere and says throwing out of the strike zone is cheating.

Do you guys agree that throwing the ball out of the strike zone would be cheating???

Throwing out of the Zone is called PITCHING. Tell that kid that...

[APR]

I will never talk to him again, it's not worth it to talk to him.

[NYM]

its not cheating its called good pitching.....all the greats do it....

[RonBurgundy]

I will never talk to him again, it's not worth it to talk to him.

That kid sounds like an immature sore loser...

[APR]

That's what I do, I throw it out of the zone and he swings at it. I'm trying to win what does he expect.

[carter]

Throwing a ball out of the strike zone is not cheating, however if you do it regularly or continuously it's cheap. MLB pitchers don't throw continously out of the zone and therefore you should mimick that when playing the game. You can get away with throwing a lot balls in the game because more often than not your opponent will swing and therefore you'll get a strike. It's not really the best way to win.

As an aside, please don't bring specific issues like this (where you name names) to this site - it can only result in fights.

[APR]

That kid sounds like an immature sore loser...

Oh man, you should of been there. The things he said, he is definitely a sore loser. Plus he was even acting and saying stuff before he was losing.

[APR]

Throwing a ball out of the strike zone is not cheating, however if you do it regularly or continuously it's cheap. MLB pitchers don't throw continously out of the zone and therefore you should mimick that when playing the game. You can get away with throwing a lot balls in the game because more often than not your opponent will swing and therefore you'll get a strike. It's not really the best way to win.

As an aside, please don't bring specific issues like this (where you name names) to this site - it can only result in fights.

I totally agree, and next time (hopefully there isn't a next time I will not name his name, sorry.

[RonBurgundy]

Yeah, repeatedly out of the zone can be a bit much, but if the opponent has no plate discipline and can't lay-off, too bad.

[carter]

Well if a pitcher continuously throws balls, it's great because you'll walk more, but it can get boring.

It definitely ruins the fun of the game when players do that.

[RonBurgundy]

Oh man, you should of been there. The things he said, he is definitely a sore loser. Plus he was even acting and saying stuff before he was losing.

By da way, you play on XBOX Live, PS2 Online, or PC Online?

[APR]

Yeah, repeatedly out of the zone can be a bit much, but if the opponent has no plate discipline and can't lay-off, too bad.

I have the same opinion to that also. Every time I would go for a strikeout I would throw it out of the zone because he would swing at it. But I would get ahead of him by pounding the strike zone.

And I play on PC.

[RonBurgundy]

Well if a pitcher continuously throws balls, it's great because you'll walk more, but it can get boring.

It definitely ruins the fun of the game when players do that.

But see, if the opponent starts to lay-off the out-of-the-zone pitches, he can thereby force the pitcher to throw strikes.

[APR]

But see, if the opponent starts to lay-off the out-of-the-zone pitches, he can thereby force the pitcher to throw strikes.

That's what he did late in the game, he knew I was going outside and laid off of them. So, to fix that i used a mix of pitches and speeds.

[Chickybomag14]

I cant stand when all someone does is throw out of the zone. Non stop balls. After a while it gets to me and all i wanna do is play. Great players that mix in and out of the zone really know how to pitch. I play on live and my tag is Scarface027 for any of you that Live.

[RonBurgundy]

That's what he didlate in the game, he knew I was going outside and laid off of them. So, to fix that i used a mix of pitches and speeds.

That's the definition of pitching.

Take any advantage you can get and adapt to the batter.

Point is, you were just plain A LOT BETTER than the kid. He shouldn't have been complaining, he got schooled, that's it.

[APR]

I cant stand when all someone does is throw out of the zone. Non stop balls. After a while it gets to me and all i wanna do is play. Great players that mix in and out of the zone really know how to pitch. I play on live and my tag is Scarface027 for any of you that Live.

That's how I pitch in the game. I mix up my pitches, speeds, and locations as much as I can to throw him off. So he then tries to tell me that I know nothing about the game. The whole game I don't think he threw a pitch that wasn't a knucklecurve or fastball, and he tells me that I know nothing.

[APR]

That's the definition of pitching.

Take any advantage you can get and adapt to the batter.

Point is, you were just plain A LOT BETTER than the kid. He shouldn't have been complaining, he got schooled, that's it.

Heck yeah he got schooled. He was complainin' the whole game and would not shut up.

[cubsfaninfla]

That kid seems stupid. :lol:

[carter]

Remember, we are only hearing one side of the story. What Apr4488 is saying about mixing up pitches and speeds is fine, but I am sure his opponent had some reason to go off the way he did. Throwing balls consistently is a bushleague play. Baseball is a gentleman's game and should be played as such. Play with respect. You have only a split second to decide if you want to swing or not, so if you see a pitch that may be close, you're going to swing and if it's a ball you have little chance of hitting it. If three balls are thrown in a row only to exploit the fact that a player swings continuously, that's cheap in my mind. It's just like taking a lead and then throwing crap so the player can't catch up. Total bushleague garbage.

Also, please do not judge the other party or call him names. That is just wrong.

[APR]

Remember, we are only hearing one side of the story. What Apr4488 is saying about mixing up pitches and speeds is fine, but I am sure his opponent had some reason to go off the way he did. Throwing balls consistently is a bushleague play. Baseball is a gentleman's game and should be played as such. Play with respect. You have only a split second to decide if you want to swing or not, so if you see a pitch that may be close, you're going to swing and if it's a ball you have little chance of hitting it. If three balls are thrown in a row only to exploit the fact that a player swings continuously, that's cheap in my mind. It's just like taking a lead and then throwing crap so the player can't catch up. Total bushleague garbage.

Also, please do not judge the other party or call him names. That is just wrong.

He went off because I threw 3 pitches in a row out of the zone. However, that doesn't mean that they were all intentionally thrown to be out of the zone. For instance, on one of the pitches I threw a slider low and away and out of the zone. My pitcher's (Curt Schilling) slider stayed in the zone and then broke out. That is why I threw it, because it stays on the plate and then breaks off. It looks like a strike, but it turned out to be a ball. Do you understand my POV now. I am not lying and would never lie about this sort of thing.

After I struck the kid out on a pitch out of the zone, he came onto Chat and started going off me me saying that I was a type of flower, and a little cat ok??? So don't get mad at me for playing the game how it should be played. By miking up pitches, speeds, and locations. That is called pitching, and yes, I do throw pitches out of the zone, everyone does. Especially this year, if you aim for the corner's, some of you're balls may drift outside of the zone. So don't blame me for what he did, I was just playing the game.

[mrg1]

There is NOTHING wrong with throwing out of the strike zone

If someone throws me 4 bad pitches, I take the walk.

THATS realism... batters in real life dont swing at everything, but it seems that most people I play in this game do.

Take advantage of other peoples stupidity/impatience

[abhall]

Throwing a ball out of the strike zone is not cheating, however if you do it regularly or continuously it's cheap. MLB pitchers don't throw continously out of the zone and therefore you should mimick that when playing the game. You can get away with throwing a lot balls in the game because more often than not your opponent will swing and therefore you'll get a strike. It's not really the best way to win.

As an aside, please don't bring specific issues like this (where you name names) to this site - it can only result in fights.

MLB pitchers don't throw out of the zone continously because most MLB hitters have enough discipline to lay off balls. When I've played online, opponents have tried this concept, unfortunately when I consistently laid of the pitches and walked they realized there strategy would fail (more often than not).........

[APR]

There is NOTHING wrong with throwing out of the strike zone

If someone throws me 4 bad pitches, I take the walk.

THATS realism... batters in real life dont swing at everything, but it seems that most people I play in this game do.

Take advantage of other peoples stupidity/impatience

Exactly, they should know that every pitch is not going to be one they can hit. Also, everyone isn't going to be a strike.