HypnoxXx Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 I think the idea is good in theory, but I think there's a better way to do it...If we looked at a good, comprehensive depth chart for every team and noted where players were listed, that would be a good way to determine second positions... It would be nice if there was a 3rd position or if there was a way to decrease fielding/range for secondary or tertiary positions. It wouldn't be a big deal to allow outfielders to have OF as their second position if we could decrease their fielding ability for the other OF spots. But we can't. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfaninfla Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 My comments in bold ARIZONA Troy Glaus 3B (He was "only" rumored to play 1B, if his arm injury deal heal right) Koyie Hill C (Has never played 1B in MLB) Chris Snyder C (Has never played 1B in MLB) Jose Cruz Jr. RF (Most of his career has been in RF) Yet, he probably could play left if needed Luis Gonzalez LF (Has been playing LF for the last few years) ATLANTA Marcus Giles 2B (only played 8 games in MLB at 3B) Andruw Jones CF Brian Jordan RF Raul Mondesi RF Rafael Furcal SS (Has not played 2B since rookie year) CHICAGO Todd Walker 2B (Primarily used as 2B, only played 5 games (in relief) at 1B in career) Michael Barrett C Jose Macias Corey Patterson CF (Primarily used as CF) Jason Dubois played lots of 1B in the minors, and I know he played at least 30 games at 1B in AAA) Jerry Hairston Jr. 2B (1st position), OF (2nd position) CINCINNATI Javier Valentin C He played a lot of 1B in Spring Training '04, and a little in the season Ken Griffey Jr. CF (Seriously, is their any other position he’s going to play) RFight Field Adam Dunn LF (He won’t play CF again) COLORADO Aaron Miles 2B Garrett Atkins 3B (He will never play 1B as long as Helton is there) What about injuries, ever think of that? Preston Wilson CF Matt Holiday OF (Same as Atkins) Clint Barmes SS FLORIDA Juan Pierre CF (No other position played) Miguel Cabrera LF (Hasn’t played 3B regularly in a few years) HOUSTON Willy Tavares LF (Mainly played CF/LF in minors) Milton Bradley JD Drew plays CF Cesar Izturis SS (W/ Kent there, no need for 2B) MILWAUKEE JJ Hardy SS (Was kind of surprised to see UTIL) Carlos Lee LF Geoff Jenkins LF NEW YORK Doug Mientkewics 1B (only played 2B w/ ’04 Sox ‘cause of injuries & for a short period) Carlos Beltran CF PHILADELPHIA Chase Utley UTIL this one surprised me, as he oly plays 2B and 1B Kenny Lofton CF Pat Burrell LF Bobby Abreu RF PITTSBURGH SAN DIEGO Mark Loretta 2B (played 2B for a few years now) Khalil Greene SS (has never played 1B in majors) SAN FRANCISCO Ray Durham 2B (has never played OF in majors) Pedro Feliz 3B (1st position) LF or UTIL (2nd position) (played primarily 3B entire career, only played 1B in ’04 due to injury to Snow) Barry Bonds LF Mike Matheny C (Wow, I never knew he played 1B…LOL) Moises Alou LF (Before coming to SF, he was an LF) ST LOUIS Albert Pujols 1B (has not played any other position in 3 years) But the point is, he can play the other positions if needed John Mabry LF (1st position) 3B (2nd position) (Rarely played 1B) same with Pujols Jim Edmonds CF Probably should have 1B as his 2nd position since he had played 1B a lot earlier in his career Reggie Sanders RF (Moved to LF after Walker deal) Larry Walker RF David Eckstein SS WASHINGTON After work, I'll go through these again (this was just a quick glance) but a really good start. My views are in bold.....and that, my firends is why I think why that wolfyfinger's idea is really dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcmac Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 You can still play them out of position. You could still play Edmonds at 1st if your little heart desires. I hate seeing Tony Batista getting signed and playing SS for someone, he'll never play SS again. Pujols will probably never play a different position. Griffey won't play Left ot Right until his body doesn't let him play CF anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfaninfla Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 You can still play them out of position. You could still play Edmonds at 1st if your little heart desires. I hate seeing Tony Batista getting signed and playing SS for someone, he'll never play SS again. Pujols will probably never play a different position. Griffey won't play Left ot Right until his body doesn't let him play CF anymore. I know, but, they will not play as good at the said position if they do not have it as their 2nd position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 sorry its nothing specific for any changes, but please, where is 2.2? Could someone tell me why it takes 6 hours to upload something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low42 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 sorry its nothing specific for any changes, but please, where is 2.2? Could someone tell me why it takes 6 hours to upload something? That's what I've been wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 That's what I've been wondering. At least it is not just me. Looks liek if there is no Admin online, it just doesn't pop up 'til validated. Which is necessary, but kinda sucks timingwise sometimes. Guess it is neither server nor host, that cause delays like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Thanks guys! They are now ready for DL. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lual Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 never mind :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhath Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 just open in mvp edit and export Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hh20xxconvert Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 2.1 had Carlos Zambrano with a 5 mph 2 seam fast ball. You don't want to see what your graphics engine does with this. Don't know if it was corrected in 2.2, but you will want to correct it in MVPEdit prior to starting your dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoxXx Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 So many people were having problems with DAT files, that I just uploaded it in .mbe. All you need is MVPEdit to export them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lual Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 So many people were having problems with DAT files, that I just uploaded it in .mbe. All you need is MVPEdit to export them. aye - i didnt read the notes on the d/l - just assumed cheers mate good job :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoxXx Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 2.1 had Carlos Zambrano with a 5 mph 2 seam fast ball. You don't want to see what your graphics engine does with this. Don't know if it was corrected in 2.2, but you will want to correct it in MVPEdit prior to starting your dynasty. I hadn't even touched Zambrano...Just goes to show you the crazy things MVPEdit does sometimes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 So Hyp, version 2.2 has all of the suggestions mention in the Tweaks thread? If so, extremely impressive. We'll always think of these rosters as "Ultimate", :mrgreen: Just waiting on Kraw for conversions, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lual Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 never mind - 10th time lucky :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hory Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 2 id corrections that didn't make it into 2.2 SEA-AAA 7069 Aaron Rifkin - not 7119 FA - 8040 Shaun Babula - not 8104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lual Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 can i ask a quick q? no offence to the roster makers - llmac and hypnoxxx but ive changed you in game to be 50 year old catchers - with 0 at every stat anyway, rather than have 2 cloggers in the game for a season - will the game crash if i just delete you both? if so, ill just see how the vets get on if they get picked up also are there any other fakes in the FA Pool? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacusand13south Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Im sorry, but that idea is s***. I completely agree about that idea being stupid. Plus alot of wolfys changes are stupid as well. Furcal has played second since his rookie year, he started four games there in 2002 and also once last year. Brian jordan is the startinf lf in atlanta so why would he need changed to rf? What about macias? his name is there but no positions for him? same for dubois? Valentin is actually a backup first basemen, same with dunn, dunn has actually played more games at first than right field and has actually never played center in the majors. Dunn has played atleast 10 games at first in every year of his career except for his rookie season. garret atkins actually played more games at first than he did at third last year, and plus hes the top backup if helton doesnt start atkins will. Barmes actually played in as many games at second as he did at first last year and actually projects as more of a second basemen instead of a shortstop. I wont even say anything about your houston dodgers changes because im sure youll get enough crap about that from others. You want to give some crap rule about 15 percent at a postion and you go and say utley as a utility? he only EVER played first and second, so I dont really follow that one. Bby might beat me to this one but you are all wrong about feliz, he was originally set you go into this season as a first basemen against lefties and playing every except center and second against righties, until bonds went down and he was needed as a full time outfielder. Considering that mabry has played more 1b in his career and over the past three years than he has at third and he is the only other non pujols first basemen the cards have I beleive his main position should be first, and then outfield as his second. He is the starter at third now though with rolen gone down but he never played there last year so I guess that shows how much confiedence the cards have in him as a thirdbasemen. This was nothing about against you personally wolfy but I feel maybe this should be left up to the actuall roster creators, and to not use a strict formula on the matter. Ps eli marrero needs changed to be a lf as his main and 1b as his second, I dont was to see the royals starting him at short anymore in a dynasty. EDIT: looks like I should have read page 181 before I posted, alot of things I commented on cubs fan had already pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmagicfan Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 2.1 had Carlos Zambrano with a 5 mph 2 seam fast ball. You don't want to see what your graphics engine does with this. Don't know if it was corrected in 2.2, but you will want to correct it in MVPEdit prior to starting your dynasty. what should it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmagicfan Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Dodger correction for 2.2 Antonio Perez should be in the majors and Mike Edward to the minors. Perez is injure in real life, but most likely he will be put back in the majors. Mike Edward was call to the Majors because of 3b Valentine, but now that we have injure player back in the majors. there no need to have Mike Edward in the majors. Giants correction on 2.2 Barry Bonds not in starting lineup for NL vs LHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk13 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Padre corrections Steve Sparks ( AAA) has been cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunteroo2 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 un installed the game, reinstalled it, downloaded all 3 patches, put all the .dat files in the database folder, replaced everything, still didnt work...i give up...thanks for the help though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 un installed the game, reinstalled it, downloaded all 3 patches, put all the .dat files in the database folder, replaced everything, still didnt work...i give up...thanks for the help though ok, I am beginning to think you might just not realize that they are updated? I know this sounds stupid, but did you check under SF, and is says J. Dowd and not Bonds? If so, hit RESET ROSTERS, if you still have Dowd, download "not-so-ultimate rosters 2.2" put that .mbe file in the MVPEdit folder and fire up MVP Edit. click open, select the .mbe file, it will load the rosters within MVPEdit. Now you click on Export, and navigate to the following folder: MVPBaseball2005datadatabase....It will say that this exists, and if ya wanna overwrite, YES you do. Fire up MVP...That has GOT TO WORK mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoxXx Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 I'd put Bonds in the vs.LHP lineup, but I havent seen him bat against a southpaw yet this year! Lual, everyone can do whatever they want with the rosters (except repost it as their own work)...If you want to make hypnoxXx a short, fat, red-headed pigeon who was born in 1942, feel free...There are NO fakes in the rosters besides llcmac and HypnoxXx...and even then, we are REAL people! Honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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