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[wolfy6finger]

I completely agree about that idea being stupid. Plus alot of wolfys changes are stupid as well. Furcal has played second since his rookie year, he started four games there in 2002 and also once last year. Brian jordan is the startinf lf in atlanta so why would he need changed to rf? What about macias? his name is there but no positions for him? same for dubois? Valentin is actually a backup first basemen, same with dunn, dunn has actually played more games at first than right field and has actually never played center in the majors. Dunn has played atleast 10 games at first in every year of his career except for his rookie season. garret atkins actually played more games at first than he did at third last year, and plus hes the top backup if helton doesnt start atkins will. Barmes actually played in as many games at second as he did at first last year and actually projects as more of a second basemen instead of a shortstop. I wont even say anything about your houston dodgers changes because im sure youll get enough crap about that from others. You want to give some crap rule about 15 percent at a postion and you go and say utley as a utility? he only EVER played first and second, so I dont really follow that one. Bby might beat me to this one but you are all wrong about feliz, he was originally set you go into this season as a first basemen against lefties and playing every except center and second against righties, until bonds went down and he was needed as a full time outfielder. Considering that mabry has played more 1b in his career and over the past three years than he has at third and he is the only other non pujols first basemen the cards have I beleive his main position should be first, and then outfield as his second. He is the starter at third now though with rolen gone down but he never played there last year so I guess that shows how much confiedence the cards have in him as a thirdbasemen. This was nothing about against you personally wolfy but I feel maybe this should be left up to the actuall roster creators, and to not use a strict formula on the matter.

Ps eli marrero needs changed to be a lf as his main and 1b as his second, I dont was to see the royals starting him at short anymore in a dynasty.

EDIT: looks like I should have read page 181 before I posted, alot of things I commented on cubs fan had already pointed out.

the reason llcmac and I wanted to change some of these was that I simulated a few games w/ the Cards. And they kept benching Rolen and playing Albert Pujols at 3B It made no sense. This is just one example where a star player was being benched for another guy

OK, on Furcal, big whoop he's played 5 games at 2B in the last years does that mean he he will play 2B again (maybe a game or two).

As for Brian Jordan (yes, he does start in LF) but his secondary position should be RF (not OF). HE won't play CF, but he has played RF recently.

Macias & Dubois that was more of a reminder for myself to check on them (I didn't know much on them)

Valentin I didn't know about him either, but he has yet to play 1B w/ Reds (only in spring training)

Dunn's 2nd position was listed as OF (not 1B), thats why it was changed from LF/RF

Utley was a mistake, I meant to put IF (he has played some 3B)

Atkins actually did not play 1B last year he played 6 games at 3B and 4 in the OF (He played some 1B in '03, but again more at 3B)

As for the HOuston and LA thing, I think that was were I left off when I went to lunch at work. Thats why I never finished that part

Mabry should be LF/3B. Over the last 2 years he played most of his games in the OF (specifically LF), then more at 3B than 1B (I just checked mlb.com) I know I'm a Cards fan. Seriously how often does Pujols miss a game in comparison to Reggie Sanders?

Also, remember my rule wasn't just 15%. I also said over the last couple of years (not career). "cause we have guys that played lets say alot of 3B or LF early in their career, but have become a fulltime 1B. Think Pujols. (Even a Furcal, etc) Crap Nevin was Catcher when he first came up, but hasn't played it in years. So does that mean we play him at Catcher....NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Finally I said there was excpetions to the rule (see above)

Also this was a quick glance, while I was work.

[wolfy6finger]

Oh yeah I also said I was "just suggesting"

I'm sorry I get pissed when people call me or my ideas dumb. Especially when I all I'm trying to do is get the possible rosters for all of us (and I know I'm not the only one)

If you think of it logically some of these people's 2nd positions do need to be changed.

[voodoo_daddy]

Need to take 3B Juan Portes off of the Twins A Ft. Myers:

Promising prospect Portes leaves team

Also, RHP Scott Tyler needs to be on the Twins somewhere, whether its AA or AAA. The guys' on the Twins 40-man roster, so he should be in the roster. Take out Brian Wolfe and put Tyler in on the AA team, Wolfe's a dud, 7.04 ERA in AA New Britain.

My suggestions:

Wolfe out, Tyler in. (AA)

Portes out, OF Deacon Burns in. (A)

[AcousticNut]

version 2.2 had sp Carlos Zambrano with the Chicago cubs with a 5 mph 2 seam fast ball.

what should it be?

Based on the speeds of his other pitches, it probably was supposed to be '85' as opposed to '5'.

I was just playing against the Cubs and Zambrano and I'm like "WTF!!!!"..... The ball literally disappeared right after it came out of his hand and I was getting invisible strikes called on me. I came here to this thread to see if it was just a problem with me or an error in the roster.

Glad it's not just me.

[GamerPyle]

Basics:

Name: Scott Tyler #58

Birthday: August 20, 1982 (2005 age, 22)

Height: 6′5″

Weight: 220 lbs (I have seen reports ranging from 210 to 235)

Bats: Right

Throws: Right

Position: Pitcher

Acquired: 2001 amateur draft

Drafted: Selected by the Twins in the 2nd round (45th overall) in the 2001 amateur draft

Roster: currently on 40-man; still has 3 options

Contract: the minimum if he makes the roster

Statistics last three seasons (complete):

Year Lvl W L ERA IP H R ER HR BB SO H9 W9 K9 WHIP

———————————————————————————————————-

2002 ® 8 1 2.93 68 37 23 22 5 46 92 4.9 6.1 12.2 1.23

2003 (A) 6 12 5.50 106 93 70 65 7 82 110 7.9 7.0 9.3 1.65

2004 (A) 7 4 2.60 104 73 33 30 3 64 132 6.3 5.5 11.5 1.32

Totals: 21-17 3.79 278 203 126 117 15 192 334 6.6 6.2 10.8 1.42

(Sorry for the formatting, WordPress does not have a table feature as far as I can tell, and this was the best I could do without cutting and pasting and resorting to all sorts of other troubles…)

Pitching:

1) Fastball (mid-nineties), 2) slider, 3) changeup. Tyler is an imposing presence on the mound and uses his size to bring some serious heat. However, he also struggles with his control (averaging over six walks per nine innings the past three years). His slider is above-average and he is still working to harness his changeup as a third option. Some days he can be unhittable (he brought a no-hitter into the seventh inning in one start last year), but even then his control stands as an impediment (he lost the aforementioned start). He is yet another power arm in a system stocked with power arms.

[alcoholicstepfather]

Not to nitpick, but Wes Letson, a relief pitcher for Myrtle Beach,, has his name misspelled. In verion 2.2 of the rosters his name is Wes Leston. Info from http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/mil...ilb&cid=521. Other than that the Braves look great.

[CaptainSpooge]

Hey wolfy,

I think the idea you and llcmac have about editing the sceondary positions is great. I hope this is implemented in any upcoming versions of the roster.

[voodoo_daddy]

Thanks for the help on Tyler's info, GamerPyle.

BTW, where did you get that info on his pitches?

[GamerPyle]

Thanks for the help on Tyler's info, GamerPyle.

BTW, where did you get that info on his pitches?

Your Welcome NP

I got it from here:http://wyoung.net/twins/index.php?cat=1

hes got an awesome search tool on the right for anything Twins

[alcoholicstepfather]

Is their anyway to give john Rocker a mullet? I saw him on Sportscenter the other day. I noticed that he's got a sweet mullet. Classic

[mustangchang]

Is their anyway to give john Rocker a mullet? I saw him on Sportscenter the other day. I noticed that he's got a sweet mullet. Classic

no.......but I hear his new hair style is going to be Cornrows :D

[kangarooboy78]

For any Cubs edits regarding skin color and face edits, please go to these links. For

MLB: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...275&yr=2005

AAA: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...279&yr=2005

AA: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...&nid=313324

A: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...202&yr=2005

A (mid): http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...&nid=313248

90% of the players have pictures

[MVPlover]

Here are some White Sox changes:

* Willie Harris' batting stance should be set to "CROUCHED".

* Juan Uribe's batting stance should be set to "CLASSIC 3".

* Scott Podsednik's socks should be set to "HIGH".

* Kevin Walker's jersey number should be set to "58".

* Tetsu Yofu of the Birmingham Barons (White Sox AA) tested positive for steroids and was released.

The other Sox suspended were Triple-A Charlotte first baseman Jorge Toca and Double-A Birmingham pitcher Tetsu Yofu, who was released earlier this week.

[abacusand13south]

the reason llcmac and I wanted to change some of these was that I simulated a few games w/ the Cards. And they kept benching Rolen and playing Albert Pujols at 3B It made no sense. This is just one example where a star player was being benched for another guy

OK, on Furcal, big whoop he's played 5 games at 2B in the last years does that mean he he will play 2B again (maybe a game or two).

As for Brian Jordan (yes, he does start in LF) but his secondary position should be RF (not OF). HE won't play CF, but he has played RF recently.

Macias & Dubois that was more of a reminder for myself to check on them (I didn't know much on them)

Valentin I didn't know about him either, but he has yet to play 1B w/ Reds (only in spring training)

Dunn's 2nd position was listed as OF (not 1B), thats why it was changed from LF/RF

Utley was a mistake, I meant to put IF (he has played some 3B)

Atkins actually did not play 1B last year he played 6 games at 3B and 4 in the OF (He played some 1B in '03, but again more at 3B)

As for the HOuston and LA thing, I think that was were I left off when I went to lunch at work. Thats why I never finished that part

Mabry should be LF/3B. Over the last 2 years he played most of his games in the OF (specifically LF), then more at 3B than 1B (I just checked mlb.com) I know I'm a Cards fan. Seriously how often does Pujols miss a game in comparison to Reggie Sanders?

Also, remember my rule wasn't just 15%. I also said over the last couple of years (not career). "cause we have guys that played lets say alot of 3B or LF early in their career, but have become a fulltime 1B. Think Pujols. (Even a Furcal, etc) Crap Nevin was Catcher when he first came up, but hasn't played it in years. So does that mean we play him at Catcher....NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Finally I said there was excpetions to the rule (see above)

Also this was a quick glance, while I was work.

I get what was said about alot of positions needing changed, especially if there is no way a player will play there again, like pujols. As for brian jordan I misread your statement I thought you wanted him changed to rf with no secondary. As for your games played stats im not sure what your using but it is wrong. Valentin has played 1b he actually started 3 games there and releived casey 4 times as valentin is a pretty good defender at first. Utley has never played a different position besides first and second in the majors. Atkins did not play any position besides third in 03 but did three games at first 4 games at third and 3 in the outfield last year. So sorry that you feel like your getting crap and being called stupid for trying to help, but I know lots of others have been helping out here for a while and dont like to see new people come in and try to change things with these extraordinary rosters that dont need changed.

[cubsfaninfla]

Here are some White Sox changes:

* Willie Harris' batting stance should be set to "CROUCHED".

* Juan Uribe's batting stance should be set to "CLASSIC 3".

You never could of guessed, but there is a thread for this!

[llcmac]

Oh yeah I also said I was "just suggesting"

I'm sorry I get [naughty word] when people call me or my ideas dumb. Especially when I all I'm trying to do is get the possible rosters for all of us (and I know I'm not the only one)

If you think of it logically some of these people's 2nd positions do need to be changed.

Yes, There are way to many Util players and way to many players playing many positions.

After I edited every major leaguer who wasn't a utility player, there were still 76 left, this is horrible.

let's name all the true UTIL players

Desi Relaford, Joe McEwing, Willie Harris, Chone Figgens, Frank Catalanatto, Bengi Gil, Denny Hocking.......

[mustangchang]

Jerry Hairston jr, Jose Macias.................

[wolfy6finger]

I get what was said about alot of positions needing changed, especially if there is no way a player will play there again, like pujols. As for brian jordan I misread your statement I thought you wanted him changed to rf with no secondary. As for your games played stats im not sure what your using but it is wrong. Valentin has played 1b he actually started 3 games there and releived casey 4 times as valentin is a pretty good defender at first. Utley has never played a different position besides first and second in the majors. Atkins did not play any position besides third in 03 but did three games at first 4 games at third and 3 in the outfield last year. So sorry that you feel like your getting crap and being called stupid for trying to help, but I know lots of others have been helping out here for a while and dont like to see new people come in and try to change things with these extraordinary rosters that dont need changed.

Your right on Atkins, I was looking at mlb.com and the 3 games I saw for 1B was actually 2004 (not 2003) So, 2003 he had all games (19) at 3B and in 2004 he had 4 at 3B and 3 each at 1B/OF.

Going by my 15% rule within the last 2 years (plus this year). He played 1B and OF roughly 7% each. (3/42)

maybe I should lower my pct to 10%

As for Valentin I had stated I didn't know what position other than C he played. But someone had pointed out he had played 1B in spring training. Putting him on the list was more of reminder for myself to double-check it.

llcmac had brought up this point that positions needed to be changed and I agreed. I took the NL, he took the AL. He didn't mind that helped.

[AI03]

For UTIL's:

How about Miguel Cairo, Rey Sanchez, Chris Woodward? Or do they fall under IF?

[moylkell]

For any Cubs edits regarding skin color and face edits, please go to these links. For

MLB: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...275&yr=2005

AAA: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...279&yr=2005

AA: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...&nid=313324

A: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...202&yr=2005

A (mid): http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...&nid=313248

90% of the players have pictures

This is DEFINITELY what I was looking for...decent scouting reports (who's a starter, a reliever, etc) and picture attributes. Guys like J.J. Johnson, Chris Walker, and Weston O'Brien (Daytona A) need their skin colors changed (obviously) after looking things over here...there's probably more, but for now, I see those as some obvious ones. This is an excellent collection of sources.

[sfgiantsflgators]

UTIL...Pedro Feliz.

[McCarroll21]

Ok I'm bored so I'm going to do something... Every player that should have a second position will be listed with their positions. This is coming from the Depth Charts on MLB.com. If there is something wrong on this list just say it, don't get upset. I took them straight off the Depth Charts listed on MLB.com unless I knew something was different. Everyone not listed on this list should only have one position, I made a note on some guys who were once thought to be utility players that have now settled into one position on here. I think this does a pretty good job of cutting down on the utility players who only play the infield or something like that. Like I said, if there's something wrong, just post the correction and if it seems sufficient I'll edit this post to reflect that. I'm sure you know your teams better than I do, I'm just going by the depth charts. One guy I'm looking forward to hear from is Millennium about David Newhan. The depth charts only had CF listed and I haven't seen them enough this year to know differently right off the top of my head. Anyway, I see this as a good starting point...

American League

Team......Player......1st Pos......2nd Pos

Angels......Jeff DaVanon......RF......OF

Angels......Juan Rivera......RF......LF

Angels......Chone Figgins......3B......Util

Angels......Maicer Izturis......SS......IF

Angels......Dave Matranga......2B......IF

Angels......Robb Quinlan......3B......1B

Angels......Darin Erstad......1B Only

A's......Eric Byrnes......LF......OF

A's......Charles Thomas......LF......OF

A's......Bobby Kielty......RF......LF

A's......Matt Watson......LF......RF

A's......Mark Ellis......2B......SS

A's......Keith Ginter......2B......IF

A's......Marco Scutaro......SS......IF

A's......Adam Melhuse......C......1B

Blue Jays......Frank Catalanotto......LF Only

Blue Jays......Reed Johnson......RF......OF

Blue Jays......Alex Rios......RF......CF

Blue Jays......Eric Hinske......1B Only

Blue Jays......Shea Hillenbrand......1B......3B

Devil Rays......Carl Crawford......LF......CF

Devil Rays......Alex Sanchez......RF......CF

Devil Rays......Damon Hollins......CF......OF

Devil Rays......Eduardo Perez......LF......RF

Devil Rays......Nick Green......2B......IF

Devil Rays......Jorge Cantu......2B......3B

Devil Rays......Alex Gonzalez......3B Only

Indians......Coco Crisp......LF......CF

Indians......Ryan Ludwick......LF......OF

Indians......Casey Blake......RF Only

Indians......Jose Hernandez......SS......Util

Indians......Jhonny Peralta......SS......IF

Indians......Alex Cora......SS......2B

Mariners......Randy Winn......LF......CF

Mariners......Willie Bloomquist......3B......Util

Mariners......Scott Spezio......3B......1B

Mariners......Greg Dobbs......3B......RF

Mariners......Dave Hansen......1B......3B

Orioles......Jay Gibbons......1B......OF

Orioles......David Newhan......CF Only

Rangers......Kevin Mench......RF......LF

Rangers......Chad Allen......LF......CF

Rangers......Gary Matthews......CF......RF

Rangers......Mark Derosa......2B......IF

Red Sox......Jay Payton......RF......OF

Red Sox......Ramon Vazquez......3B......IF

Red Sox......Kevin Millar......1B......LF

Royals......Eli Marrero......LF......OF

Royals......Joe McEwing......3B......SS

Royals......Tony Graffanino......2B......3B

Royals......Craig Monroe......CF......OF

Royals......Marcus Thames......RF......LF

Royals......Jason Smith......3B......2B

Royals......Omar Infante......2B......SS

Royals......Brandon Inge......3B......C

Royals......Ramon Martinez......2B......IF

Twins......Lew Ford......RF......CF

Twins......Nick Punto......2B......SS

Twins......Terry Tiffee......3B......1B

Twins......Matt LeCroy......C......1B

White Sox......Timo Perez......CF......OF

White Sox......Juan Uribe......SS......IF

White Sox......Willie Harris......2B......CF

Yankees......Hideki Matsui......CF......LF

Yankees......Tony Womack......LF......2B

Yankees......Ray Sanchez......2B......IF

National League

Team......Player......1st Pos......2nd Pos

Astros......Mike Lamb......3B......1B

Astros......Lance Berkman......LF......RF

Astros......Orlando Palmeiro......RF......LF

Astros......Jose Vizcaino......SS......IF

Braves......Pete Orr......2B......3B

Braves......Ryan Langerhans......LF......OF

Braves......Wilson Betemit......SS......3B

Braves......Brian Jordan......LF Only......

Brewers......Chris Magruder......LF......OF

Brewers......Bill Hall......2B......SS

Brewers......Jeff Cirillo......3B......IF

Cardinals......So Taguchi......CF......OF

Cardinals......Roger Cedeno......RF......LF

Cardinals......John Mabry......LF......3B

Cardinals......Abraham Nunez......2B......IF

Cardinals......Scott Seabol......3B......2B

Cardinals......Albert Pujols......1B Only

Cubs......Jerry Hairston......2B......CF

Cubs......Niefi Perez......SS......IF

Cubs......Jose Macias......3B......IF

Cubs......Todd Hollandsworth......LF Only

Cubs......Jeromy Burnitz......RF Only

Diamondbacks......Luis Terrero......CF......OF

Diamondbacks......Jose Cruz......CF Only

Diamondbacks......Alex Cintron......SS......IF

Diamondbacks......Craig Counsell......2B Only

Diamondbacks......Matt Kata......2B......3B

Diamondbacks......Chad Tracy......1B Only

Diamondbacks......Shawn Green......RF Only

Dodgers......Ricky Ledee......LF......OF

Dodgers......Milton Bradley......CF......OF

Dodgers......JD Drew......RF......CF

Dodgers......Jason Repko......LF......RF

Dodgers......Jose Valentin......3B......IF

Dodgers......Jason Grabowski......LF......1B

Dodgers......Olmedo Saenz......1B......3B

Dodgers......Oscar Robles......3B......IF

Dodgers......Jeff Kent......2B Only......

Dodgers......Jason Phillips......C Only

Giants......Pedro Feliz......IF......LF

Giants......Deivi Cruz......SS......2B

Giants......Jason Ellison......LF......RF

Giants......Michael Tucker......RF......CF

Giants......Moises Alou......RF......LF

Giants......Edgardo Alfonzo......3B Only

Marlins......Jeff Conine......LF......1B

Marlins......Damian Easley......2B......SS

Mets......Mike Cameron......RF......CF

Mets......Eric Valent......RF......1B

Mets......Chris Woodward......SS......Util

Mets......Marlon Anderson......2B......LF

Mets......Miguel Cairo......2B......3B

Mets......Kaz Matsui......2B Only......

Mets......Jose Reyes......SS Only......

Nationals......Ryan Church......CF......OF

Nationals......Brad Wilkerson......LF......1B

Nationals......Jeffrey Hammonds......LF......RF

Nationals......Jamey Carroll......3B......IF

Nationals......Carlos Baerga......2B......IF

Nationals......Tony Blanco......3B......1B

Padres......Xavier Nady......OF......3B

Padres......Mark Sweeney......1B......LF

Padres......Robert Fick......C......OF

Padres......Miguel Ojeda......C......LF

Padres......Damian Jackson......2B......IF

Padres......Mark Loretta......2B Only

Padres......Phil Nevin......1B Only

Padres......Ryan Klesko......LF Only

Phillies......Jason Michaels......CF......OF

Phillies......Tomas Perez......1B......IF

Phillies......Placido Polanco......2B......IF

Phillies......Chase Utley......2B Only

Pirates......Rob Mackowiak......3B......2B

Pirates......Matt Lawton......RF Only

Pirates......Ty Wigginton......3B Only

Reds......Ryan Freel......2B......Util

Reds......Felipe Lopez......SS Only

Reds......Adam Dunn......LF......1B

Reds......Austin Kearns......RF......OF

Reds......Willy Mo Pena......CF......RF

Reds......Javier Valentin......C......1B

Edited to correct:

[olyrunner]

Willie Bloomquist (SEA) can play just about anywhere (infield and outfield), and he's an emergency catcher.

EDIT: Here are his Fielding Stats where you can see him bouncing around from position to position as needed.

[moylkell]

For the Cubs' Diamond Jaxx AA affiliate, I recommend that Jason Wylie (who I don't believe exits), be changed to Rich Hill (SP): SP L L 6-5 205 3/11/1980 Prospect Michigan Boston, MA...as mentioned by a previous member, the list of Diamond Jaxx AA ballplayers can be found @ http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=260&p=8&a...&nid=313324

I'm sure there are others that can be tinkered with.

KM

[low42]

Thanks for those links kangarooboy.

KM, Jason Wylie exists and played for Daytona last year. I'm not sure where he is now. Maybe on the DL? Quit? I don't know.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/jason_wylie.shtml