jhath Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 yes cav... you have to... a .300 at coors is not the same as a .300 at houston's park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpmath Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Are we going to penalize ballplayers because of their home park? A hit is a hit and it counts in the standings. Anyone discount Sammy Sosa's power because he played in Wrigley Field? Actually one of the major factors of evaluting players fairly and in vacuum is adjusting for their home park. Park Factor it's called. If I hit .300 at Dodger Stadium, I should get more credit than I guy who hit .300 a mile high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavicchi Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Well, then, anybody adjust Sammy Sosa for hitting at Wrigley? Scott Rolen batting .309 over 3-years against lefties is not a 97 rating! If Helton is being penalized for hitting at Coors Field, then how come he has a 96 Contact against righties? He should have a 96 rating against lefties as well since he has the same 3-year average .346 and .345. Helton's 3-year average on the road is .310 which is still higher than Rolen's .309--and last year Helton hit .326 on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip07 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 When can we expect 2.4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerPyle Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Well, then, anybody adjust Sammy Sosa for hitting at Wrigley? Scott Rolen batting .309 over 3-years against lefties is not a 97 rating! If Helton is being penalized for hitting at Coors Field, then how come he has a 96 Contact against righties? He should have a 96 rating against lefties as well since he has the same 3-year average .346 and .345. Helton's 3-year average on the road is .310 which is still higher than Rolen's .309--and last year Helton hit .326 on the road. 2 reasons short left field porch??? cold vs lefties inside to the right field porch??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeds Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 the thing about ratings is if you mess with a few players you'd have to tweak them all. not to mention there will be varying opinions about each and every player. that would be far too time consuming and this roster would never be finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 the thing about ratings is if you mess with a few players you'd have to tweak them all. not to mention there will be varying opinions about each and every player. that would be far too time consuming and this roster would never be finished. Do agree that Rolen does need some lowering (i'll probably do a few more sims myself (I am sure if others could and post them that would help too). I was just saying that Helton might be a guy that simming out would be good for due to that ballpark. I know most the sims i do he is near the top or the top most the time but maybe he is still underrated. I am not pushing in my posts to do 3 year splits, etc for everyone but some major guys. When Luis Gonzlez and Eric Chavez were clearly better vs L in the game but in real life they are not- that should be done. If Rolen does hit constantly .330 in the game (more than my one sim)- he should be lowered (the ratings point that way anyway). If you want to give extra weight for last year and/or this year- that is fine. If you want to raise Derek Lee 2 points i get that but i think guys should be mainly on the larger sample of 3 + year and/or lifetime. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravesj858 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 i'm just wondering, mabye a walk up ditty update can be done for a future update. many players, esepcally the latin players have incorrect dittys. dont' worry, i made a list alderdy and sources we can use if you guys want to pursue this for later updates. the list is linked below. http://www.mvpmods.com/index.php?name=Foru...p=126100#126100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 More hitters- Rolen which we talked about i think 83/85 VS R and 91/91 vs L would be generous. He hits in the .320+ range in my sims. Pujols- he seems to K's a tad to much- lower chase a tad? D Lee- I could see raising the power some. I have simmed 5 season with him and he typically gets below 30 homers. Raise to 78/82 vs R and leave L alone. Helton- I seem to get 40+ homers all the time from him in sims. maybe lower that R pow to 90. so 96/90 and raise L avg. 93/79. Wilkinson- hits L better than R in real life. Either way the avg are high on here. I would go vs R- 70/79 and L- 75/80 which is probably still high in avg. Varitek- pow vs L is too much at 87. lower to 80. JD Drew- good hitter but a beast when i sim with power. I think shave vs R to 85/82 and vs L to 75/72. Mora- he tends to hit around 37 homers when i sim. In real life better slug vs R- not in the game. vs R is fine. lower L power to 74. A-Rod- hits R better than L in real life so the R split of 79/84 seems low. A 84/88 seems better. These are the major big time hitters i saw that could use some tweaks. Like the Cub hitting and pitching spreadsheets i made you can see lessers that could use some work but overall the file is very, very good. I really is no way to get the pitchers K to go up like they should. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavicchi Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Quote-"Rolen which we talked about i think 83/85 VS R and 91/91 vs L would be generous. He hits in the .320+ range in my sims." Since 1996, Rolen has hit over .300 only once! and that was .314. So, he shouldn't be constantly hitting in the .320 range. Quote-"JD Drew- good hitter but a beast when i sim with power. I think shave vs R to 85/82 and vs L to 75/72." dkrause, the problem of lowering Contact/Power is what about the Hot/Cold zones? Shouldn't they also be adjusted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 you could adjust them but i don't think the comp sits up and in to jack homers like the humans do. Lower these power or averages should do well enough. With those change prehaps Rolen would be more a .290, 30 homer guy. The odds are better of it than before. Plus, Rolen is hitting in the .320 with the current V2.35 ratings. I haven't simmed any with the one i suggested. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholicstepfather Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Version 2.35 will be out today. Why 2.35? because this one isn't an official release, it's beta, so much has been done, but I wouldn't recommend starting a dynasty with 2.35. Why don't you recommend starting a dynasty with version 2.35? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavicchi Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 you could adjust them but i don't think the comp sits up and in to jack homers like the humans do. Lower these power or averages should do well enough. With those change prehaps Rolen would be more a .290, 30 homer guy. The odds are better of it than before. Plus, Rolen is hitting in the .320 with the current V2.35 ratings. I haven't simmed any with the one i suggested. Don But Rolen is not a .320 hitter! As I said previously, he only hit over .300 once in his career and that was .314. Rolen should, according to his stats, be a about .290 hittter. Rolen's 3-year average is .287 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavicchi Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I just noticed Baez of the Devil Rays is rated "Super". How is a guy with an ERA over 3 Super? If this guy is Super, what is Rivera? 2001 Cle 43 0 0 0 50.1 34 22 14 5 20 52 5 3 0 14 1 2.50 2002 Cle 39 26 1 0 165.1 160 84 81 14 82 130 10 11 6 0 2 4.41 2003 Cle 73 0 0 0 75.2 65 36 32 9 23 66 2 9 25 5 10 3.81 2004 TB 62 0 0 0 68.0 60 31 27 6 29 52 4 4 30 1 3 3.57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI03 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I honestly think that we should not go around and edit existing players...I believe that EA's ratings are good enough, and we should only worry about the created minor leaguers. Because, if you start messing with the points, who knows what will happen and it'll be hard to get any realistic stats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadscout Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 what program do you use to load the .mbe file w/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravesj858 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 what program do you use to load the .mbe file w/? mvpedit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andruw25 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Quick question guys. I simmed a year in dynasty to see who would be available as a free agent to get some ideas of how I wanted to shape the Sox once I start one with them. Anyway, Miguel Cabrera, Rocco Baldelli, Joey Gathright, BJ Upton, Lew Ford, and other such names show up. You guys were phenominal at updating contracts, so is there any way we can avoid things like this happening? Perhaps some of these guys would be tenured a deal we could predict so that teams like the D-Rays don't senselessly lose all their best players for the future. If you apply the "years of service rule" where most of these younger players are playing off of their signing bonus and then minimum wages until they're considered veterans, you could extend their deals and avoid the turnover that would NEVER happen in real life. In reality, small market teams can lose these players but only after 6 or so years when they require a raise and put in their time. I mean Miguel Cabrera is only looking for 2 @ 900K/Y too to make it more insulting! Just figured I'd bring this up since I'm sure we could do something...if not just update a few of these guys if they've been inked for longer deals if what I propose isn't doable or just too much work. Coming from a console user, so again I'm not sure, but I thought it was a valid request. Many thanks as always! BTW llcmac - when can we expect the Red Sox to be integrated as you said with the other effort, perhaps adding the Christian Lara's of the world I've been pushing for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadscout Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 i know this sounds stupid but where on here can i find mvpedit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavicchi Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 i know this sounds stupid but where on here can i find mvpedit You can get it here: http://www.glass4.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholicstepfather Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Is Tony Pena available as a free agent manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I honestly think that we should not go around and edit existing players...I believe that EA's ratings are good enough, and we should only worry about the created minor leaguers. Because, if you start messing with the points, who knows what will happen and it'll be hard to get any realistic stats... Where have you been? Just about every pro has been adjusted in some form already. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 But Rolen is not a .320 hitter! As I said previously, he only hit over .300 once in his career and that was .314. Rolen should, according to his stats, be a about .290 hittter. Rolen's 3-year average is .287 I guess i don't understand where we are missing each other on this. If Rolen was hitting .320+ with the current V2.35 and i posting rating changes that are lower then why do you keep telling me that Rolen isn't a .320 hitter? I obviuosly agree and posted tweaks that should lower that already. Have i tested whether those changes would lower it- No. Should it in Theory- Yes. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Quick question guys. I simmed a year in dynasty to see who would be available as a free agent to get some ideas of how I wanted to shape the Sox once I start one with them. Anyway, Miguel Cabrera, Rocco Baldelli, Joey Gathright, BJ Upton, Lew Ford, and other such names show up. You guys were phenominal at updating contracts, so is there any way we can avoid things like this happening? Perhaps some of these guys would be tenured a deal we could predict so that teams like the D-Rays don't senselessly lose all their best players for the future. If you apply the "years of service rule" where most of these younger players are playing off of their signing bonus and then minimum wages until they're considered veterans, you could extend their deals and avoid the turnover that would NEVER happen in real life. In reality, small market teams can lose these players but only after 6 or so years when they require a raise and put in their time. I mean Miguel Cabrera is only looking for 2 @ 900K/Y too to make it more insulting! Just figured I'd bring this up since I'm sure we could do something...if not just update a few of these guys if they've been inked for longer deals if what I propose isn't doable or just too much work. Coming from a console user, so again I'm not sure, but I thought it was a valid request. Many thanks as always! BTW llcmac - when can we expect the Red Sox to be integrated as you said with the other effort, perhaps adding the Christian Lara's of the world I've been pushing for? I have seen a fair amount of top 100 prospects too in FA. Outside raising the contract length i think we are screwed. It is weird to see Upton, Marte, etc in FA often. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I am going to push for this again but don't you guys think the minors hitters suck? I sim season after season and there is typically 10-20 pitchers in the league with ERA below 2 on the leaderboard. Here is an example of real life- http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/mil...pit&lid=112 The pacific coast league has only 8 under 3.00. Lets globally edit a tad more hitting for the minors guys or less pitching- i prefer the hitting (like +3 in avg and pow even) myself based on the previous examples i gave like Dan Johnson, etc. BTW the international league is similar in stats. Its really amazing how good the rosters are- my requests in general are not that huge. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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