kangarooboy78 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 MY LAST POST CONCERNING ATTRIBUTE CHANGES BECAUSE IT'S JUST MY OPINION AND THE ROSTERS ARE GREAT EVEN IF ALL MODDING CEASED TODAY. Then are we doing any changes? You cannot tell me the majority of players in this file were not changed alot. I really see zero reason to give someone props for 2 months of the season. Like I Said: Guys like to see their new jump on the band wagon players play like they are playing today. People want to use a Garland, a Eaton, a Lee and a Perez and see them perform similar to their current real life performances. I might be the minority here but i would to actually see a set that is kinda finished, not with players raising because of two months of work. Then we are all stuck those inflated ratings. Like jeter last year- i would assume you would have had him drop since he was hitting like .210 at this time. Well he ended up like .295. I really don't get why three year splits are so bad to you, but boosting over two months isn't. You still don't really base your posts on anything but feelings. Maybe some research would be nice. Don I totally agree with 95 % of what you say and it's not that 3 year splits are a terrible idea. This whole idea modding rosters is great because EA drops the ball on it. They are NOT 100% accurate on a pitcher's pitches, velocities, batting stances, accessories and with call-ups, send downs, trades and player releases. I sure want to see the best rosters out there and dropping stats won't get it there. I just don't believe in dropping anyone's stats dramatically based on 3 yr splits. EA takes into consideration a player's career stats and a player's age. EA gives good stats to a Rolen for a career year for example. His age: 30. Players hit their prime at about 30. So EA's progression will have him play at a high level for a few more years and EA's sim engine will more than likely drop his stats every dynasty year til it decides to retire him. Then again since Baseball is about as predicable as Clint Barmes grocery fall down a flight of stairs or Barry Bonds mini-god like numbers from age 35 to 39. One should again not drop a player's stats due to 3 year splits because a player may have turned the corner or hit his prime. My prime example of why I give props to a player for a hot start of the season. MVP 2004's Cleveland Indians. If you like the Indians or not wouldn't you want the likes of V. Martinez or T. Hafner to scare you when you play against them in a dynasty? Default rosters have Martinez at a 42 power and 82 contact vs. RHP and Hafner at a 79 power and 77 contact. Would you be scared to face that or would you even want to play as Cleveland as ur dynasty without a attribute boost? Takes the fun out of it. IMO I give you props if you would. Also, I would not drop Jete's stats nor would I give D. Lee a 91 or more power because of the 1st month or so. I just think that dropping stats is something one would do at the end of a season Ulitimate Roster Release IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfisch Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Correction Correction Correction Detroit Tigers Nook Logan- Batting Stance Chipper Jones Omar Infante- Batting Stance Egar Renteria (add batting gloves) I don't understand why people don't believe me of these two stances. I have posted them a number of times and these stances are perfect for the hitters. Also 1b Chris Shelton has the "evil" bent stance. He has more of an upright stance. I will get back with the correct stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybernetic Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Jays correction: I know it's minor Reed Johnson wears a dark brown fielding glove, not a blue one and he has a full beard now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 MY LAST POST CONCERNING ATTRIBUTE CHANGES BECAUSE IT'S JUST MY OPINION AND THE ROSTERS ARE GREAT EVEN IF ALL MODDING CEASED TODAY. Like I Said: Guys like to see their new jump on the band wagon players play like they are playing today. People want to use a Garland, a Eaton, a Lee and a Perez and see them perform similar to their current real life performances. I totally agree with 95 % of what you say and it's not that 3 year splits are a terrible idea. This whole idea modding rosters is great because EA drops the ball on it. They are NOT 100% accurate on a pitcher's pitches, velocities, batting stances, accessories and with call-ups, send downs, trades and player releases. I sure want to see the best rosters out there and dropping stats won't get it there. I just don't believe in dropping anyone's stats dramatically based on 3 yr splits. EA takes into consideration a player's career stats and a player's age. EA gives good stats to a Rolen for a career year for example. His age: 30. Players hit their prime at about 30. So EA's progression will have him play at a high level for a few more years and EA's sim engine will more than likely drop his stats every dynasty year til it decides to retire him. Then again since Baseball is about as predicable as Clint Barmes grocery fall down a flight of stairs or Barry Bonds mini-god like numbers from age 35 to 39. One should again not drop a player's stats due to 3 year splits because a player may have turned the corner or hit his prime. My prime example of why I give props to a player for a hot start of the season. MVP 2004's Cleveland Indians. If you like the Indians or not wouldn't you want the likes of V. Martinez or T. Hafner to scare you when you play against them in a dynasty? Default rosters have Martinez at a 42 power and 82 contact vs. RHP and Hafner at a 79 power and 77 contact. Would you be scared to face that or would you even want to play as Cleveland as ur dynasty without a attribute boost? Takes the fun out of it. IMO I give you props if you would. Also, I would not drop Jete's stats nor would I give D. Lee a 91 or more power because of the 1st month or so. I just think that dropping stats is something one would do at the end of a season Ulitimate Roster Release IMO. EA took overly heavy consideration of the 2004 stats and that is about it , just like your mainly into taking the 2005 stats on these select with. If your beef is guys want to face Derek Lee as the 2005 model when why would guys want to laugh as a 2005 model of a player struggling is my point Most the changes i listed were correct in 2004 and the years prior to that ( i didn't drop Rolen to a .282 lifetime hitter). Example- Burnitz is 36- EA only took in his career 2004 season. I would guess most players better or worse are like this. I think i'll stop posting and looking up info also as the creators haven't been responding to any of these. The time and energy is pointless to use if falling on deaf ears. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI03 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Where have you been? Just about every pro has been adjusted in some form already. Don Donnie, I've been here since page 100. I just don't want this all to snowball when we're getting all these major leaguers new ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavicchi Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I think there are Star Power ratings that also need adjusting. I don't believe in rating a player based on last year's performance alone. I think the 3-year average plus the last year for fine tuning is how a player should be rated. If the guy has only one-year in the majors, then I would go by that year and take his "propect" into account. I don't think EA based its ratings just on last year. Vernon Wells hit only .272 I believe and is rated Super, so I think EA uses some kind of system that points away from just one year, possibly there is input like "projected" that comes into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Donnie, I've been here since page 100. I just don't want this all to snowball when we're getting all these major leaguers new ratings. I listed like 7-8 guys pros over the last 5-7 pages and really the majority were not huge changes. The farm hitters global changes were not monster either. On the flip side- I would say the 50% of so of the pitchers having movement on the 4 seamer and the other half not (default i am almost positive is zero for all) are much more severe then anything i have listed or could have. Plus, all of my tweaks are based on actual information. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrause Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I think there are Star Power ratings that also need adjusting. I don't believe in rating a player based on last year's performance alone. I think the 3-year average plus the last year for fine tuning is how a player should be rated. If the guy has only one-year in the majors, then I would go by that year and take his "propect" into account. I don't think EA based its ratings just on last year. Vernon Wells hit only .272 I believe and is rated Super, so I think EA uses some kind of system that points away from just one year, possibly there is input like "projected" that comes into play. I think many potentials could be changed. I think a few stars could be changed (like the ones i posted). While some like Wells might very well be based on career potential many, many like Burnitz, G Monroe, A-Rod, etc i defintely don't think were. Plus, we can argue about stuff all we want but without the creators saying anything- what is the point? Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfisch Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 PROBLEM There is a user at this site that claims to have done the same thing that these guys have done. Somebody should look into it. He even mentions Kraw's name a couple times. The users name is BravesBeat22 (rookie, Join date: Apr. 2005) Heres the addy... http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulleti...ad.php?t=128236 Just trying to help guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY_Yankees Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I havent been here in a while, and rather than searching through hundreds of pages... I'll just ask. Are the EA stats tinkered with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 PROBLEM There is a user at this site that claims to have done the same thing that these guys have done. Somebody should look into it. He even mentions Kraw's name a couple times. The users name is BravesBeat22 (rookie, Join date: Apr. 2005) Heres the addy... http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulleti...ad.php?t=128236 Just trying to help guys. #1 Stop stirring the pot when you don't know what you are talking about. He never mentioned any roster moves/full minors. He just said he gave everyone a face from the disc. #2 See what I did at the end of the thread there? Before you come here accusing anyone of anything, ask him where he got the base roster from. #3 He mentioned Kraw's name once, stating Kraw wouldn't convetr the file for him. How does that link him to the URP? You, my friend, seem to make a judgement without actually reading what was said. Let's see how he answers my question there (even though you should have asked it before coming here)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I havent been here in a while, and rather than searching through hundreds of pages... I'll just ask. Are the EA stats tinkered with? Yes, very much so. Every pitcher was overhauled with their correct pitches/speeds, and most if not all of the batters were tinkered with in some way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY_Yankees Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Are they more accurate for the most part? I just hate having stacked teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basballfanatik9 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 The Mets signed Danny Graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andruw25 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Quick change to Wilson Betemit. His skin color is a little too light and he doesn't have his goatee. This'll fix it. Face: 14, Hair color: 1, Hair style: 8, Facial hair: 6 Andy Marte is wearing # 11 with the club tonight in his Braves debut. Remove his elbow guard and his shin guard, he wears neither. Besides that, change the bat color to 1 and he looks PERFECT with his appearance and his H. Matsui stance. Brayan Pena grew in some facial hair, # 7 for the chin only. Hair style 8 also as he is no longer bald. I like Brian Giles's stance for him as well after seeing him tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoxXx Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 In response to someone potentially stealing our rosters, there's really nothing we can do about it. We arent copywrited or anything, and honestly, if someone is putting out our rosters with their name on it and they aren't making money off it, then whoopdee doo. I know for a fact that there are many rosters out there somewhere claiming to be something else but really are the URP. I think most people will recoginize our rosters regardless and give credit where credit is due. My only issue is when people try making money off of our rosters, which I havent seen yet. If anyone notices that a roster set involving money, even donations, is our set, all we can do is really get the word out and tell people not to download them and not to give any money to those people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 I can't go through 200+ pages so I'll just hope someone is kind enough to answer. Has anyone had any positive results for increasing strikeout numbers for specific pitchers? Is there anyway I can increase Santana's K count at the end of a simulated season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRIMM Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Help....I had no problem installing version 2.0 but 2.35 only has a MBE file!!! how do i insert this into game??? please help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan1919 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 hey make sure Ryan Drese and Ron Mahay suck please :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegz Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Help....I had no problem installing version 2.0 but 2.35 only has a MBE file!!! how do i insert this into game??? please help You need to open it using MVPEdit and then export it to the database directory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegz Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 In response to someone potentially stealing our rosters, there's really nothing we can do about it. We arent copywrited or anything, and honestly, if someone is putting out our rosters with their name on it and they aren't making money off it, then whoopdee doo. I know for a fact that there are many rosters out there somewhere claiming to be something else but really are the URP. I think most people will recoginize our rosters regardless and give credit where credit is due. My only issue is when people try making money off of our rosters, which I havent seen yet. If anyone notices that a roster set involving money, even donations, is our set, all we can do is really get the word out and tell people not to download them and not to give any money to those people. Sorry to hear that, some people just don't know what this community is about :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavicchi Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 hey make sure Ryan Drese and Ron Mahay suck please :x If he doesn't, you can do it with MVP Edit :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRIMM Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 You need to open it using MVPEdit and then export it to the database directory thank you i have mvp edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybernetic Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Jays changes: Miguel Batista now only throws these 5 pitches as a closer: 4-seamer, sinker, cutter(described as almost as good as Mariano Rivera's), forkball (his main out pitch) and a slider(high 80s, right-to-left movement) which he rarely throws Roy Halladay main throws: 4-seam(typically 92-95), cutter(low 90s), sinker(low 90s), knuckle-curve(high 70's/low 80s) and change(low 80s).. he doesn't throw a 2-seam Pete Walker He throws a 4-seam(caps around 92mph), cutter(low 90s), sinker(low 90s) and forkball(low 80s).. he does not throw a slider Josh Towers: 4-seam (90-91mph), slurve(moves away to righties/back doors to lefties), 2-seam(left-to-right movement) and change(12-6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybernetic Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Oh and Jason Frasor also throws a slider (left-to-right movement) which is not in his pitches.. it's actually his 2nd best pitch to go with his mid-90s 4-seamer, curve and change-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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