bbythepier Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Took me a while to translate that post Kraw , but it's a quick fix for Round Rock. Lineup #'s start at 0 instead of 1. I'm sure Hyp can have it fixed by next version. I think the better way to label Range in this game would almost be "anticipation." It's like a lower rated guy gets bad breaks on the ball. His actual running speed in the outfield should still be fast, but he doesn't get to balls you think he should because his reaction time is subpar. I haven't done enough with this year's game to tell if it's different, but last year's game treated it much this way. I would assume it's still largely the same. GH GForce, I may stand corrected. That actually sounds more like my "Baldelli play". Slow off the line and the gapper rolls all the way to the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhath Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 wouldnt this be much easier bbythepier if u just did the rosters urself??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hory Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 id changes to make SD-AA Brad Baker 8704 not 0 Players to create SD- 3186 Rusty Tucker, 3182 Sean Thompson, 8705 Paul McAnulty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GForce22 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 wouldnt this be much easier bbythepier if u just did the rosters urself??? Gathering some info is one thing, data entry is another. BIG difference (and the reason why I'm not involved in rosters this year). Those who don't do it have NO idea how much time it takes to do right. *** Not sure that came out as I meant it...if taken as an insult, it's taken wrong GH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 wouldnt this be much easier bbythepier if u just did the rosters urself??? easier for who? You because you wouldn't have to read? Much more goes into a "realistic" roster than a few pitching tweaks and some transactions. Don't fool yourself. HypnoxXx and llcmac have put in way more work than you or I will ever know. Sure I could email or PM the stuff to HypnoxXx. The only reason I put the stuff out on the thread is because a lot of times I'M WRONG. What better way to come to a consensus than a public message board. I kind of like having baseball minds such as HypnoxXx, llcmac, GForce, jb, abacus, golden, millenium, etc. sort thru my crap. If you're happy with the default rosters be my guest, play away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomHero Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 I know it was only spring training, but Dan Cabrera's change is coming along nicely, and the Red Sox staff said he might have been the best pitcher that they saw all spring. Bedard should have a Zito-like curve (i.e. knee buckling). Julio does have a good slider, not sure of the command on it though. But, he can use that as his out pitch. He gave me near heart attacks every time he would pitch because he can never come in and have a 1-2-3 inning, he makes things interesting for sure. And as for B.J. Ryan, well, he should just be flat out nasty. Bauer needs to be switched from SP to RP in the rosters. He and Parrish as the long relievers, Reed and Williams as the middle relievers, Kline and Julio as set-up men, and Ryan the closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Just got back from the O's/A's game, couple of notes: - Rodrigo Lopez threw 3 pitches: 88-91 mph Fastball, 83-85 mph change-up, and, get this, 74-77 mph breaking pitch. I don't know if it was the slider, or a slurve (which it has been called before). But he NEVER threw a breaking pitch above 77. - A's line-up is as follows: CF Kotsay C Kendall 3B Chavez DH Durazo 1B Hatteberg LF Byrnes (you have him batting 9th) SS Crosby RF Swisher 2B Ellis - Marco Scutaro is definitely on the bench for the A's. He came in for Crosby. - O's line-up: 2B Roberts 3B Mora SS Tejada RF Sosa 1B Palmeiro C Lopez DH Gibbons CF Matos LF Bigbie (Matos and Bigbie should be switched in your line-up) - I now know that I must love Luis Matos. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 I know it was only spring training, but Dan Cabrera's change is coming along nicely, and the Red Sox staff said he might have been the best pitcher that they saw all spring. Bedard should have a Zito-like curve (i.e. knee buckling). Julio does have a good slider, not sure of the command on it though. But, he can use that as his out pitch. He gave me near heart attacks every time he would pitch because he can never come in and have a 1-2-3 inning, he makes things interesting for sure. And as for B.J. Ryan, well, he should just be flat out nasty. Bauer needs to be switched from SP to RP in the rosters. He and Parrish as the long relievers, Reed and Williams as the middle relievers, Kline and Julio as set-up men, and Ryan the closer. - Bedard has a biting curve, not a big looping curve like Zito's. - Best pitcher the Red Sox have seen or not, Cabrera's change is still brand new. It is refined in the least. - Parrish is not long relief this year. He is a left handed middle guy this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL1LiNKiNPaRkFaN Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 question.... ok I am using the consloe friendly version of your last rosters .... i was wondering if anyone has a solution for the fake free agents in the free agent list yet ??????? i was actually gonna put all thir attributes down to zero ......but then I though well whats the point cause there are till fakes on tems at this point ????? what is your guys thought about this ?????shoould we just keep them ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 no solution, rosters can only hold 255 free agents. Once the game starts it generates fake players and raises the free agent total upto 300+. and if more people retire than get drafted the game will make more fake FAs at the end of each season no way around it really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL1LiNKiNPaRkFaN Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 ok so might as well just keep um they way the game produces them then wright????? hell we can use them as trade bait !!!!!LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Couple more quick A's/O's hits: - Tejada's stance - Helton holds his hands too high. Ironically, the Chavez stance is perfect for Tejada. - I just tried a Slurve for Lopez, 63 control, 70 movement, 76 velocity with the same 11 to 5 movement. It is a perfect match for what he was throwing today. - Mark Ellis' stance should be Generic or Vina. Get that Bent crap out of here. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhath Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 one thing i noticed.... could you please review the hot/cold zones for todd hollandsworth of the cubs? I know hes no barry bonds, but to have only 1 hot zone and cold zones DOWN THE MIDDLE when facing rhp's seems a lil over the edge of screwing him out of the ratings he deserves... he did hit .318 last year and 8 hr's in 57 games, mostly as a ph until sosa got injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceBoy Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 To Mr. Ungrateful from a few posts earlier---"Everyone in the minors are fake"...Odd, seeing as all AAA is real and there are probably over 100 real players in AA too...You're obviously some punk who doesnt even read the readme, did we say all real? no...but you probably cant read anyway. Anyways, I'll give you 2 weeks to give me an accurate, COMPLETE roster from ML-A including free agents (From scratch too, dont use anyone's hard work as a "guide") and then we'll actually give your posts some thought. Until then, go back to your algebra homework. Don't let these ungrateful people get you guys down. These rosters are great! When the full minors are included, they will be fantastic! Most of us know you guys put lots of blood, sweat and tears into these rosters, and it definitely shows! For me, I can be patient until the complete rosters are out...I'll have restarted my dynasty for the 3rd time, but by then, I should have all my sliders tweaked to the perfect setting. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmagicfan Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Dodger Steve Schmoll not on Ultimate Roster 1.0 # 49 Steve Schmoll RP R R 6-2 200 2/4/80 Silver Spring, MD Rookie he is in the Real 25 man Major league roster. but because we doing the injury rule for ultimate roster, maybe he belongs in AAA because Alvarez, Gagne, Penny is on the 25 man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Dodger Steve Schmoll not on Ultimate Roster 1.0 # 49 Steve Schmoll RP R R 6-2 200 2/4/80 Silver Spring, MD Rookie he is in the Real 25 man Major league roster. but because we doing the injury rule for ultimate roster, maybe he belongs in AAA because Alvarez, Gagne, Penny is on the 25 man roster. jb, hope you don't mind if I jump in on Schmoll, but here's his scouting report. "...dropped his arm slot to near submarine level...sits regularly around 87-90 (flashes to 93) with nasty running movement...his cutter actually rises...slider will never have great break...changeup has potential...attacks the zone and pitches ahead in the count..." What an unbelievable Tournament! Aaaaawesome Baaaaaby!!! Some may think I took it easy the Red Sox staff, but really how can I offer suggestions on Schilling (4-seamer is best), Wakefield (knuckler), Foulke (circle change from hell). There were no corrections to be found. Same on the next team, Chicago Cubs. Am I really supposed to find something off w/ Prior, Wood, Maddux and Zambrano. Those guys are right on. Now I have to make a public argument on some guys in the pen so bear w/ me. John Smoltz has a Top 5 slider, correct (Lidge, F. Rodriguez, etc.) His ratings on this pitch are 12/15 movement, 89 control, 86 velocity Now I can find no objective reason (stats or scouting report) why Chad Fox and Ryan Dempster should have a slider even close to his. (don’t give me that scouting report in your own words, or I’ll tell you Lowry’s changeup should be a 99) Chad Fox- 12/15 movement, 85 control, 84 velocity Ryan Dempster- 12/15 movement, 74 control, 87 velocity Unless someone can give a NATIONAL source that says these guys have ultra-control, ultra-movement sliders, then this is equivalent to cheating. Their slider’s ratings should be lower. (I might buy Fox's slider having some good movement but the control? look at his BB/Inn. the last 2 years) Now this guy should have better stuff Leicester "...fastball sits at 95-96 mph and reaches 98...can overmatch righties w/ his slider, and lefties w/ a slider that serves as his changeup...secondary pitches aren't always reliable..." This guy should be demoted to AAA-Iowa and given a curve Mitre [optioned 4-3] "Boasts a nice sinking fastball and also throws his CURVE and change for strikes." http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/teams/player_bio.asp...amp;hubName=CHN There are three borderline guys on the Cubs and two are going to be demoted when Prior and Borowski come back off DL. Any ideas on who the ONE is that is going to stay? Cliff Bartosh, Jon Leicester, Mike Wuertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhath Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 leicester or bartosh, most def not wuertz.... my guess is leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintbernard Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 it's going to be Bartosh, in an interview Dusty said he wanted an extra Lefty and that's why the Flubbies traded for Bartosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhath Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 yea makes sense since rusch will likely leave the bullpen for the rotation soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Now this guy should have better stuff Leicester "...fastball sits at 95-96 mph and reaches 98...can overmatch righties w/ his slider, and lefties w/ a slider that serves as his changeup...secondary pitches aren't always reliable..." Should have read: Leicester "...fastball sits at 95-96 mph and reaches 98...can overmatch righties w/ his slider, and lefties w/ a splitter that serves as his changeup...secondary pitches aren't always reliable..." oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCarroll21 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 bby I know you haven't gotten to the hitters yet... and I don't have any kind of scouting reports to back this up... I'll look for something on the internet... so this is kind of more of a bby take a mental note so when you do hitters you'll remember to make sure of this kind of thing but on the Braves Kelly Johnson should be a left handed hitter and should have more power... and a lot of the career potentials seems low for the Braves organization... Marte and Francoeur should be 5-star potential... Luis Hernandez needs some major work... He is a defensive wizard and in the rosters he doesn't resemble that at all... He'll most likely be the shortstop in Atlanta next year if Furcal doesn't resign... And a pitcher you didn't mention for the Braves... Buddy Hernandez should be in the majors right now... all he does is get people out but isn't getting respect from the Braves management... He's dominated the minor leagues so he should be one of the best relievers in the minors but in the game he's not even one of the better one's on the Mississippi team... Needless to say he needs some attribute and potential tweaking... Don't forget about checking career potential when going through the roster bby... Having correct attributes is one thing but if we make them reflect that they're in the minors we need to have a correct potential rating to match... I know the two I mentioned above should be 5-star prospects and a lot of other guys need an upgrade in their potential as well... I've only had time to look over the Braves organization as of now but I was just giving a heads up for you right now... I know you're doing a lot of work and when I get my copy of the Prospect Handbook in I'll help you knock some of these out... I'm forever grateful of the work you guys have done, I've done rosters for football and basketball before so I know how tidious it can get... Big ups to everyone that's put in work on the rosters and I hope to be more help a little later on to get everything matched up right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 More O's talk: Cabrera throws an "above average, big curveball", and his change-up "is a below-average work in progress, rarely used before reaching the majors". Both qutoes from the 2005 Scouting Notebook. John Maine: Fastball can reach 94, normally comfortable in the 92-93 range with solid sinking action. Sharp slider which is almost an out pitch. Also adds a curve and a change, both are too inconsistent in staying in the strike zone. Rodrigo Lopez (helps explain what I saw today): Fastball 88-90 mph, good movement. Breakign ball more like a slurve than a curve (explains the 74-77mph breaking ball I saw today, no mention of a slider). Average change-up. None of his pitches are out pitches, he relies on mixing speeds and movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 bby I know you haven't gotten to the hitters yet... and I don't have any kind of scouting reports to back this up... I'll look for something on the internet... so this is kind of more of a bby take a mental note so when you do hitters you'll remember to make sure of this kind of thing but on the Braves Kelly Johnson should be a left handed hitter and should have more power... Just a bit of info on Kelly Johnson: Postion: OF 2nd Pos.: SS Bats: L Throws: R Opening Day Age: 23 6'1", 180 lbs. 2004 AA Greenville - 135 GP, 479 AB, .282, 16 HR, 50 RBI, 9 SB, 49 BB, 102 K, 35 2B A shorstop since he was drafted with the 38th overall pick in 2000, Johnson made a seamless move to the outfield last year at AA and proved capable of manning all 3 positons. He showed excellent range and gt good jumps on balls while displaying above-average arm strength. Offensively, Johnson has made significant strides in his plate coverage by spreading his stance. He can drive the ball to all fields and should develop more power as his body matures. The Braves say the key to his development centers on his confidence. Once he turns that corner, he has the package to be an everyday player in the major leagues. Hope that helps ya, McCarroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCarroll21 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Exactly what I was looking for... He should be a stud somewhere with Atlanta in a few years... An outfield of Johnson-Jones-Francoeur may not be too far away... I know they were talking about loving his bat this spring, they just don't want to rush any of them along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 ... Marte and Francoeur should be 5-star potential... If we (Giants) could only draft positions players like these. We have arms galore but Marte and Francoeur have more potential in their right leg than anything we have. That being said HypnoxXx and llcmac will have to decide which prospects get 5 stars, 4 stars, etc. My only idea is to take the Top Ten of the Top 100 as 5 stars, 10-20 as four stars etc. , in which case Marte would be a 5 and Francoeur a 4. (Or maybe 1-15 get 5 stars, in which both get a 5, and my M. Cain would be a 5 too ). Either way that might be an executive decision, because you don't want too many stars. Here's the Cubs minor leagues AAA-Iowa Pinto- “hitters have trouble picking up his pitches from his LOW ¾ delivery…†(I’m not good w/ deliveries, but I know that is not ‘Clemens’) “…his best pitch is a plus changeup…†Wuertz- “…his stuff surged; his fastball went from 87-88 mph to 91-93 with a peak of 95.His SLIDER went fro a fringy to a plus pitch at times, though it’s still inconsistent…has better command than Wellemeyer and Leicester…†Ohman- “…Like many Tommy John survivors, Ohman throws harder than he did before the operation, pitching at 91-95 mph…also has a nasty slider with downward tilt…could throw a few more strikes…†Can’t find these guys Ricky Nolasco- SP, RHP “challenges with low 90s sinker and curveball…curve is his best offering, but he relies on it too much…doesn’t throw his changeup enough and that’s the pitch that can make a difference in AAA…he gets his second chance in Iowa this year…†Jermaine Van Buren “…running on fumes at the end of the year, Van Buren continued to compete well in AAA…he’ll return there this year…before he got tired he showed explosive stuff at times…91-93 mph fastball and his slider can be plus pitches, though he needs to improve his consistency…†AA- West Tenn. Bobby Brownlie- “…hasn’t seen the overpowering stuff he showed in college...had a fastball at 92-94 mph but now works between 88-90 mph…curveball is still his signature pitch, BUT IT’S NOT THE KNEE-BUCKLER IT ONCE WAS…has compensated by becoming a more polished pitcher…developed an effective changeup…possesses the best overall command in the system…after some time in AAA, he will be able to help the Cubs in the back half of the rotation…†I have no idea if this guy will even pitch this year (?) Chadd Blasko-SP, RHP “…torn labrum…won’t be ready for start of season…deceptive delivery…low-to-mid 90s fastball…big curveball…also employed a changeup and slider…†Can’t find this guy, but he’s ready for AA Rich Hill-SP, LHP “…As good as Pinto and Sean Marshall are, they can’t match Hill’s stuff…88-93 mph fastball and power 12-to-6 curveball…can be untouchable when he finds the plate…has control issues…also has a promising changeup…†All other Cubs prospects are in A or R ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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