jtc324 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 enrique cruz SS and anthony gwynn jr. OF on brewers AA need to be created as well as delvin james pitcher for anaheim AA and justin thompson pitcher for texas AA also HypnoxXx i didn't know how the process went in making the rosters..meaning i didn't know you make them and let others tweek them..they are worth the wait...when available there should be a thread as well as a link for ps2 x-port files? correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtc324 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 by the way did anyone include the portraits for players like bonds, millar, donnelly, etc. in the new update..if not i saw a couple of good pics by Hory for download that would go perfectly with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfaninfla Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 enrique cruz SS and anthony gwynn jr. OF on brewers AA need to be created as well as delvin james pitcher for anaheim AA and justin thompson pitcher for texas AA also HypnoxXx i didn't know how the process went in making the rosters..meaning i didn't know you make them and let others tweek them..they are worth the wait...when available there should be a thread as well as a link for ps2 x-port files? correct? Enrique Cruz is in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoxXx Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 by the way did anyone include the portraits for players like bonds, millar, donnelly, etc. in the new update..if not i saw a couple of good pics by Hory for download that would go perfectly with them You have to download those portraits...The only thing our rosters have to do with portraits is making sure that the players ID matches up with the corresponding portrait number so that it shows up in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 MLB-Texas Almanzar- got rid of the two-seam and made 4-seam tail. I don’t think he has two-types, just a “hard tail-erâ€, increased his slider [note: he’s the only guy I touched after the sim, by giving his slider 2 more in mov’t because he’s had 3 straight years of sub-4.00] Astacio- decreased stuff, made the slurve a splitter via this site: http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php?story...&mode=print Brocail- got rid of change and made it a sinker, tweaked curve and switched the 2-seam to slider Cordero- got rid of change, that’s BS: a true two-pitch pony Drese- swapped effectivness of sinker and fastball I also changed his pickoff to 8/15 from 1/15 Quote from ESPN: He made two errors, one of them on a bad pickoff throw, but otherwise was quite good at holding runners. Francisco- again changeup is a crock, slider is a splitter that has cut movement instead of the regular fade. Why? This quote:â€His out pitch is a split-finger that dives and sometimes acts like a slider with cut action†Mahay- made change a circle, made curve a slider, got rid of 2-seam, made 4-seam tail Park- I know he looked good against the Halos a couple of days ago, but his last 3 years are garbage; decreased him across the board Riley- changed control and speed on curve Rogers- gave his curve big mov’t and lower control(anyone seen it; it’s not Zito-big but it is close) Shouse- made 2-seam a slurve and made fastball tail: I’m getting no help on pitching motion, but this guy is straight across sidearm when I find it Young- increased his stamina to 70, added slider and 2-seam via scouting report in S.N. Ult. Guide, lowered fastball speed 2 mph Texas Pitch tweaks and 3 season sims here: http://img170.echo.cx/my.php?image=rangers8kn.jpg BTW millenium, Bruce Chen ratings will be 99 across the board, Kline will have meat, and B. Roberts will have 99 power. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtc324 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 You have to download those portraits...The only thing our rosters have to do with portraits is making sure that the players ID matches up with the corresponding portrait number so that it shows up in the game. is there a way to dl the new rosters you will put out and then put these portraits in..if not could you explain how..i would love to try to edit rosters these rosters just to see how the pic look in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoxXx Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hey BBY---Slider Speed on Chris Young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomarhits400 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hey bb!: Concerning Ortiz's body type- you are correct- he looks silly as is- change his bone profile to Heavy and body type to Large- and he looks much better (IMHO)...And keep the faith- I think what you are doing is great- and just realize that there are several statistical shortcomings in t his game that cannot be addressed (like you didn't already know)...I DARE somebody to show me simmed K totals for a pitcher with 300+...Or even a pitcher who averages 10 K's per 9...Still the best game out there that isn't text based. Out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan1919 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Cool nice job on Texas, but here some things to add on Chan Ho now throws a sinker, which is causing the success he has had this year, Astacio has been pretty nasty so far, best he has looked in 5 years. Chris Young throws a fastball every freakin pitch and it screams crush me. Ricardo Rodriguez will be called up soon to replace him, he was off to great start last year til he got hit by a line drive and has been good in the minors this year. Oh yeah and Drese has a 2 seam fastball as well as the 4 seam, the 2 seam is more effective and moves down and in on righties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacusand13south Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Scott Sullivan is now a 3/4 throwing motion due to his health concerns. Kerry Ligtenberg signed a minor league contract with the Diamondbacks and will report to Triple-A Tucson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 I had my mind on “figures†last night, just not baseball “figuresâ€. I went back over Rangers and played them. Cool nice job on Texas, but here some things to add on Chan Ho now throws a sinker, which is causing the success he has had this year, Astacio has been pretty nasty so far, best he has looked in 5 years. Chris Young throws a fastball every freakin pitch and it screams crush me. Ricardo Rodriguez will be called up soon to replace him, he was off to great start last year til he got hit by a line drive and has been good in the minors this year. Oh yeah and Drese has a 2 seam fastball as well as the 4 seam, the 2 seam is more effective and moves down and in on righties Juan, Some pitchers have 6 pitches they use regularly (Kris Benson comes to mind, who I did a couple of days ago). Drese does, so I made his 4-seam act like a 2-seam since its mandatory. (See the mov’t). Park's sinker is actually a 2-seam. See source at bottom. Ranger corrections: Source for Cordero change (the same one I used for Astacio split): • Francisco Cordero: In this, the Season of the Blown Save, Cordero has been no exception ... His problem has been leaving his forkball way, way too far up in the zone ... Both saves have been blown by key hits by Darin Erstad ... Ordinarily, his forkball has good late movement ... Always works from the stretch ... Likes to work lefthanded hitters away ... taken from: http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php?story...&mode=print Source for Park change: Type: “chan ho park sinking fastball†in to Google, first three articles HypnoxXx & bbythepier rule: If it’s new or phrases like “need to trust this pitch†are used, it’s his least rated pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 MLB- Cubs Dempster- made 4-seam tail, decreased changeup and slider Fox- 90+ rated slider? No. Increased changeup a tad Hawkins- increased curve, slider and split a tad Leicester- Increased slider, fastball velocity, splitter Maddux- Changed 2-seam trajectory so it would act like sinker, changed sinker to curve he throws occasionally, increased NO MOV’T cutter, change change to circle Prior- made curve his second best option, increased slider a tad, added 1 mph to fastball Remlinger- 90+ rated fastball? Lowered its control, made curve a slurve, increased change mov’t and made to fade Rusch- lowered control of change and curve Wellemeyer- increased slider, decreased change Wood- lowered control on change and increased mov’t, increased curve so its 2nd best pitch, increased velocity on slider Zambrano- increased splitter (or sinker, whatever it’s called) a tad Added to roster (since ver. 1) and simmed (in case HypnoxXx uses one or the other): Borowski- got rid of 2- seam, made 4-seam tail, made slurve a slider and increased ratings (All reports I saw say he was back to himself following rehab until hand got broke. I even saw where he’s wolfing down milk to help it heal faster. Huh?) Wuertz- increased sinker, curve, change and fastball velocity a tad. Find Cubs pitch tweaks and 4 season sims here: Why 4 this time? The results were all over the place and royally pissing me off. http://img170.echo.cx/my.php?image=cubs9kp.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 O's update as I watch Tejada hit a Granny off of Kevin Brown: Rodrigo Lopez - Pitching Style 5 Daniel Cabrera - Curveball should be 80-82 mph Geronimo Gil - Large body type (I don't know what it is called in MVP, Bulky or whatever, but Gil is a plump guy). Brian Roberts - Hot zones should be the same but opposity for LHP and RHP: Inside middle, Inside low, Middle low. Also, can I beg for a little contact increase against LHP Todd Williams - Fastball should have 2-8 movement on it and be 90-92 mph. He throws his fastball exclusively with movement Equipment updates: Tejada - Elbow Guard 2, No Shin Guard Javy Lopez - No Elbow Guard, Shin Guard 2 Mora - Remove Elbow Guard Palmeiro - Remove Elbow Guard And for the Yankess, John Flaherty should have the Generic batting stance (death to the Bent stance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 MLB- White Sox Buerhle- increased cutter Contreras- decreased slider Cotts- made 4-seam tail, added 2 mph, changed 2-seam to slider Garcia- made 4-seam tail and lowered by 2 mph, changed circle to straight change Garland- changed cutter to slider, raised fastball 1 mph Hermanson- way too much stuff since he started relieving, ditched 2-seam and curve, changed change to splitter, made 4-seam tail Hernandez- decreased 4-seam and slider control a tad Marte- changed slider to slurve, lowered fastball 2 mph and gave natural tail Politte- decreased ridiculously overrated slider Takatsu- changed slider to slurve, decreased control numbers a tad Vizcaino, increased mov’t on all pitches, lowered control on slider, raised control on splitter I’m so sick of Chicago (Cubs and Sox) sims. They’re all over the place, like the winds at Wrigley. Takatsu goes from 0.91 to 4+. Marte from 2.14 to 6+. I did another 4 sims so I could which were the aberrations. Find White Sox pitch tweaks and 4 season sims here: http://img170.echo.cx/my.php?image=whitesox7jo.jpg And for the Yankess, John Flaherty should have the Generic batting stance (death to the Bent stance). Except for Eckstein, who the hell hits like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalboy15 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 what Jose Contreras has is a Forkball not a splitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 what Jose Contreras has is a Forkball not a splitter Every one of my scouting reports (Sporting News Ultimate scouting Guide, Lindy's Scouting Guide, etc.) says he throws a split. I don't mind changing it, but it would be cool if you guys would post a source on certain pitches. I am aiming for a repertoire based on the experts (or the player himself), not fans like myself or MVPMods members. Give me something to sink my teeth into, pretty please. You don't have to write a book report complete with references cited, but a link or quote would be nice. OK, now we can change Contreras's split. Put a fork in it (his repertoire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalboy15 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 how many teams do you have left bby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoxXx Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 21 (he's done Anaheim, Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Cubs, White Sox, NY Mets and Texas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalsy2310 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 so ur done with all of those teams listed^ MLB,AAA,AA,A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I’m not answering “how many more†questions. Those who follow this thread, please don’t get the impression that everything stops as I go through the pitches. Llcmac is making some AA and A prospects. Andruw25 took it on himself to fix the Top 100. Millenium makes little suggestions every time he watches the Orioles. HypnoxXx is probably creating AA CAPs or recruiting people to do so. Many little nitpicks are still to be made. Plus, I’m doing all this hard work and a guy like James Baldwin on AAA-Ottawa will get called up to the MLB-Baltimore on day one of your dynasty because he vastly overrated. There are AT LEAST 50 guys like this who will “screw up†the rosters immediately. Has anyone noticed the five threads created each day complaining about this? This stuff can be eliminated, but through hard work and patience. Anyone who says "there's nothing you can you do to eliminate this" is short-sided. The CPU is not dumb. It will call someone up if someone in AAA is rated higher than someone in MLB. plain & simple. MLB-Cincinnati Claussen-added tail to 4-seam, increased speed of slider Graves-decreased speed of fastball, decreased mov’t on change and slurve Hancock-didn’t touch Harang-decreased control on curve, slider and 4-seam, substituted splitter for cutter Mercker-changed change to circle and increased mov’t and control, made curve a cutter and slurve a slider Milton- decrease slightly control on curve, changed 2-seam to cutter Ortiz-changed change to circle, decreased control on fastball Valentine-increased fastball velocity by 3 mph Wagner-increased control on slider, made 4-seam tail, decreased control on change Weathers-made sinker speed of fastball and vice versa, gave 4- seam tail Weber-made sinker his fastball speed (ala Weathers above), decreased control on change, made slider a slurve Wilson-decreased mov’t on splitter, made slider a cutter, decreased 2 mph on fastball “His slider is a true cut fastball w/ quick running action†Find Reds pitch tweaks and 3 season sims here: http://img170.echo.cx/my.php?image=untitled12kp.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalsy2310 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Do you have a time set on these or a geuss on when they will be done will be greatly appreciated because i have been waiting for so long(i got the game the day it came out and havent opened it yet just waiting for great rosters like urs) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statelizard Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Man i'm not even working on these rosters with these guys and i feel their pain. If any of you have ever worked on rosters for any game then you should know that it takes time, alot of time. They'll get done when they get done. Until then i suggest either using their latest release or just using the stock rosters and practice so that you're decent when the rosters are done and you start your dynasty. I've worked on rosters for baseball games before, HH, and Madden and NCAA, they take time. If you just want the names then it's easy enough to go through and do yourself, although even that is time consuming. These guys are taking time out of their lives to give this community something that is greatly appreciated, the least that everyone could do is let them work in peace. If you have info on anybody specific give it to them, if you're wondering how long the rosters are going to take, then i suggest that you keep it to yourself. The more times that they have to answer the same question the less time they are tweaking the rosters. When it's finished it will be a worthwhile set, and a set that will be a good base for the next 7 or so years when there most likely won't be a pc game developed. Let them work on them at their own pace. When they finish, then we'll all be able to enjoy them. This is the reason that i quit messing with rosters a few years ago, for all of the work you put into them, you get nothing but grief. llmac, hypno, bby and everyone else that is contributing to this set, i want you to know that i, for one, greatly appreciate all of the time that you are spending on these to get everything correct down to the last detail. Take your time and good luck. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakfu Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I'm kind of one of the die hards waiting for a complete minor league roster... I hate to endorse the slap a name on a player school of thought, but once 1.1 is out maybe it would be worthwhile to cut corners on the remaining low profile low minor leaguers - since projecting their ratings would be a crapshoot anyway, and detailed scouting reports probably would be hard to find. I had been toying with the idea of downloading the 1.1 rosters and importing in single-A guys from the various total organization sets that people are uploading for various teams - but it would probably be hard to avoid duplicating guys who are already in AA and so forth if I imported entire teams. Importing individual players might work, just filling in the blanks... Is there any easy way in mvpedit to know who the fake players are? Maybe releasing an .mbe file of the rosters with all the fake players deleted would be helpful so if we want we can import in real guys to fill the rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 My respect for a man like GForce grows every day. His roster set was by far the most complete last year. He had at least 8 different updates. Let me remind of this taken from his readme on version 4, with a little picture from when it was done. No one is saying it will take this long, but please let me watch Eva Longoria on Desperate Housewives(It's 9PM on the West Coast) and let me enjoy my life outside of MVP. VERSION 4 REVISIONS: I raised the floors on movement for major leaguers, which cuts down on quick minor league callups and also cuts down on pitchers with astronomical ERAs. My fear with pitchers always lies with overrating the top and underrating the bad. Upon review, I think I was still guilty of this to a degree, so I tried to adjust it. Get off my back, please! To think it's a commercial and I'm simming seasons on my laptop on my lap on my couch. Why can't you find something in the roster that needs tweaking and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statelizard Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 The easiest way i know of to tell if the players are fake is if their photo/ID # is fake. I believe that in the roster set that they have out right now all of the created players have been assigned a # is the number is 0 then most likely that player is fake. Keep in mind however that since that release there has been alot of movement amongst the teams so you will have to live with it, or make the moves yourself until a new set is put out. Like i said i'm not involved with these in anyway, but i've taken a look at them and it seems like a 0 in the photo/id slot indicates a fake player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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