stecropper Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 I am a CPU vs CPU only player and I have been experimenting a great deal with Sliders on All Star Level for several days now with basically the same environment of Teams and Stadiums. I had been experiencing fairly high scoring games with too many base hits and not quite enough strikeouts. After Patch 1 I have had my first Shutout in a 1-0 affair and only 2 & 3 hits per team with double digit K's. Each and every one of the first 3 games I tested proved to be a large reduction in Runs Scored and base hits plus a noticable increase in K's. Since the only thing I changed over the course of these 3 games has been going to EA's Patch 1 I firmly believe that this Patch is more than just a Roster update. By the way I am using the same rosters I have been from the beginning of my testing and not the new ones from the EA Patch. Also I have noticed that the Classic Stadiums appear to have improved in their speed of the game. Not a great deal but noticable. Prior to the Patch there was a definite decrease in game speed when moving from a newer Stadium to some of the older ones that can utilize the Copperstown Effect. I do have the Copperstown effect turn off and have since day 1. I am encouraged by what I have seen thus far and very interested in others experiences with EA Patch 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddiesDaddy Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Good work my man. An apples to apples comparison with only one variable. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 i haven't seen any difference in the gameplay, although, I haven't really tested to the extent that you have. I just wish they would fix the choppiness. That is the main thing holding this back. Keep us updated on your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltonjones Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hey Stecropper I also play cpu ..cpu could you throw down your sliders so I may compare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stecropper Posted March 6, 2005 Author Share Posted March 6, 2005 daltonjones, I am more than happy to share these with you HOWEVER the rosters I play with are strickly rosters built via MVPEdit with teams inputed from the Lahman data base. I do not use any current EA Sports based rosters so the results if you use modified EA Sports rosters can and probably will be quite different. These are where I am presently and getting closer and closer. Walks are now inline and K's are much better but occassional somewhat low. Difficulty: All-Star Variable Strike Zone: On Variable "Stuff": On Blown Calls: On User Pitch Meter Difficulty: 0 Pitch Speed: 6 CPU Pitcher Ball Rate: 0 User Pitcher Fatigue: -19 CPU Pitcher Fatigue: -19 User Pitch Control: 49 CPU Pitch Control: 49 Bullpen Fatigue Rate: 0 Bullpen Fatigue Grace: 0 User Batting Contact: -49 CPU Batting Contact: -49 User Batting Power: 0 CPU Batting Power: 0 User Bunting Ability: 3 CPU Bunting Ability: 3 User Foul Ball Frequency: 11 CPU Foul Ball Frequency: 11 CPU Swing Frequency: 6 User OF Speed (Manual): 0 User OF Speed (MVP): 0 CPU OF Speed: 0 User IF Speed (Manual): 0 User IF Speed (MVP): 0 CPU IF Speed: 0 User Throw Speed: 0 CPU Throw Speed: 0 User Throw Accuracy: 0 CPU Throw Accuracy: 0 User Catch Errors: 22 CPU Catch Errors: 22 User Dive Difficulty: -15 CPU Catch Effort: 0 User Baserunning Speed: 0 CPU Baserunning Speed: 0 User Runner Aggression: 0 CPU Runner Aggression: 0 User Runner Steal Speed: 2 CPU Runner Steal Speed: 2 User Runner Steal Delay: -2 CPU Runner Steal Delay: -2 CPU Steal Rate: 4 Runner Injury Frequency: 0 Pitcher Injury Frequency: 0 Batter Injury Frequency: 0 Fielder Injury Frequency: 0 Pitching MG Difference: 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Every year, someone says the roster patch was more than just a roster patch, and secret, hidden things were changed..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Every year, someone says the roster patch was more than just a roster patch, and secret, hidden things were changed..lolevery year a PERSON assumes that a patch is nothing more than a roster update..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpup Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 daltonjones, I am more than happy to share these with you HOWEVER the rosters I play with are strickly rosters built via MVPEdit with teams inputed from the Lahman data base. I do not use any current EA Sports based rosters so the results if you use modified EA Sports rosters can and probably will be quite different. These are where I am presently and getting closer and closer. Walks are now inline and K's are much better but occassional somewhat low. Difficulty: All-Star Variable Strike Zone: On Variable "Stuff": On Blown Calls: On User Pitch Meter Difficulty: 0 Pitch Speed: 6 CPU Pitcher Ball Rate: 0 User Pitcher Fatigue: -19 CPU Pitcher Fatigue: -19 User Pitch Control: 49 CPU Pitch Control: 49 Bullpen Fatigue Rate: 0 Bullpen Fatigue Grace: 0 User Batting Contact: -49 CPU Batting Contact: -49 User Batting Power: 0 CPU Batting Power: 0 User Bunting Ability: 3 CPU Bunting Ability: 3 User Foul Ball Frequency: 11 CPU Foul Ball Frequency: 11 CPU Swing Frequency: 6 User OF Speed (Manual): 0 User OF Speed (MVP): 0 CPU OF Speed: 0 User IF Speed (Manual): 0 User IF Speed (MVP): 0 CPU IF Speed: 0 User Throw Speed: 0 CPU Throw Speed: 0 User Throw Accuracy: 0 CPU Throw Accuracy: 0 User Catch Errors: 22 CPU Catch Errors: 22 User Dive Difficulty: -15 CPU Catch Effort: 0 User Baserunning Speed: 0 CPU Baserunning Speed: 0 User Runner Aggression: 0 CPU Runner Aggression: 0 User Runner Steal Speed: 2 CPU Runner Steal Speed: 2 User Runner Steal Delay: -2 CPU Runner Steal Delay: -2 CPU Steal Rate: 4 Runner Injury Frequency: 0 Pitcher Injury Frequency: 0 Batter Injury Frequency: 0 Fielder Injury Frequency: 0 Pitching MG Difference: 0 if you turn down the cpu swing freq., the Ks will go up as will the pitch counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capa Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 daltonjones, I am more than happy to share these with you HOWEVER the rosters I play with are strickly rosters built via MVPEdit with teams inputed from the Lahman data base. I do not use any current EA Sports based rosters so the results if you use modified EA Sports rosters can and probably will be quite different. These are where I am presently and getting closer and closer. Walks are now inline and K's are much better but occassional somewhat low. Difficulty: All-Star Variable Strike Zone: On Variable "Stuff": On Blown Calls: On User Pitch Meter Difficulty: 0 Pitch Speed: 6 CPU Pitcher Ball Rate: 0 User Pitcher Fatigue: -19 CPU Pitcher Fatigue: -19 User Pitch Control: 49 CPU Pitch Control: 49 Bullpen Fatigue Rate: 0 Bullpen Fatigue Grace: 0 User Batting Contact: -49 CPU Batting Contact: -49 User Batting Power: 0 CPU Batting Power: 0 User Bunting Ability: 3 CPU Bunting Ability: 3 User Foul Ball Frequency: 11 CPU Foul Ball Frequency: 11 CPU Swing Frequency: 6 User OF Speed (Manual): 0 User OF Speed (MVP): 0 CPU OF Speed: 0 User IF Speed (Manual): 0 User IF Speed (MVP): 0 CPU IF Speed: 0 User Throw Speed: 0 CPU Throw Speed: 0 User Throw Accuracy: 0 CPU Throw Accuracy: 0 User Catch Errors: 22 CPU Catch Errors: 22 User Dive Difficulty: -15 CPU Catch Effort: 0 User Baserunning Speed: 0 CPU Baserunning Speed: 0 User Runner Aggression: 0 CPU Runner Aggression: 0 User Runner Steal Speed: 2 CPU Runner Steal Speed: 2 User Runner Steal Delay: -2 CPU Runner Steal Delay: -2 CPU Steal Rate: 4 Runner Injury Frequency: 0 Pitcher Injury Frequency: 0 Batter Injury Frequency: 0 Fielder Injury Frequency: 0 Pitching MG Difference: 0 Don, Can you shoot me the roster set of mbe you are using for this test? I'd like to take a look as well. And I agree, I think the algorithm you use when importing from Lahman is probably more "realistic" in generating player attributes..also, since the teams are older and from the 50's and 60's, the offense should be down for those teams anyway...and the ratings of the players probably reflect that. Good job! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 every year a fool assumes that a patch is nothing more than a roster update..LOL You know it's really funny how you moderator's preach not calling people names. I have heard you and "The H" tell people many times to not call people names. Now you call me a fool. When clearly based on what was updated (data files), and the size of the update that clearly nothing within the gameplay was changed. Yet I am called a fool by a moderator. I come here because this is not a board run by power-hungry, pimple-faced moderators who lock 90% of the threads and push people around (OS). Has this changed? Can you actually sit and linger in your own double standard by calling someone a name when you preach how bad that very thing is? I am very dissappointed. I expected more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 he's not a moderator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divsc Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 to check what the patch does modify, as was stated last year and i forgot to do this time, read the files it changes as it goes through its progress...if anyone watched it we can be more certain, although not positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 What does "Mod Squad" mean then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkrahling Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 He makes Mods he is not a moderator, they say Moderator under their names. But you made fun of everyone that thinks the patch is more then a roster patch. "Every year, someone says the roster patch was more than just a roster patch, and secret, hidden things were changed..lol" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 yes, he was just reacting to your statement, i saw this same argument in another thread yesterday. i'm not choosing sides, just trying to stay objective. i could care less if it was a roster update or not as i don't like ea's rosters and use one from here. i just installed the patch IN HOPES that something may have changed with gameplay itself, and then overwrote the new ea rosters. i'm not a number cruncher so i did not pay attention to the "number of differences" total. i haven't determined personally if anything has changed other than rosters. but, knowing kraws ability to see these things, he does have a valid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Anyone know where I can get Pared's sliders? (Unless the ones on top are Pared's sliders...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 I'm not a moderator I make MODS If the fool comment upset you I'm sorry, it was in reaction to your statement belittleing everying that thinks it was more than a roster update Look at your own comments before judging mine on a side note EA released 4 patches last year, 2 changed the EXE and 2 did not. The two that did change the EXE were more that roster updates. This was more than a roster update, it was not EA attempt to stop the NO CD patch. Because if it was all you would have to do is to continue to use the CRACKED EXE file what would they GAIN I assume they fixed something they do not what to have to fix on the console version. Like last year when they fixed the lefty issue. They never acknowledged they fixed it because they did not want to reissue console discs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Pared put up a new set of sliders, you can find them on GameFAQs.com (PS2 MVP board) and OperationSports.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 donjn: I'm not a Moderator either... and I've only said that once. I'm always trying to keep things civil around here (unless it involves a Yankees vs Red Sox skirmish - I just sit down, grab some beer and enjoy the fight, hehehe). And btw, if you're offended by somebody calling you a 'fool', dude, you have some issues. Anyway, these patches from EA are always 'more than a roster update'. EA always tweaks something, here and there, and it is notorious in some instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ming Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Yo, chill. By the way, I wonder if daltonjones is from Alabama. Proly not, but I used to know a Dalton Jones. What are the odds? :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 The H: ROTFLOL. Check out your reply in this post: http://www.mvpmods.com/index.php?name=Foru...817&start=0 You took offense because someone called someone else "Mr. CAPS LOCK", which is internet common tounge, and is far less offensive than being called a "fool". What a double standard. Perhaps it is YOU, who has some issues..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 The H: ROTFLOL. Check out your reply in this post: http://www.mvpmods.com/index.php?name=Foru...817&start=0 You took offense because someone called someone else "Mr. CAPS LOCK", which is internet common tounge, and is far less offensive than being called a "fool". What a double standard. Perhaps it is YOU, who has some issues..lolWOW how long did you search for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 i'm still trying to be figure out what's being solved here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donjn Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 What's being solved? Well, I dont take it to kindly to being called a "fool". I then complain about it, then I am told I have "lots of problems". This coming from a guy who complains himself in a previous post. I am just standing up for myself. Many of you think it is silly, but sometimes you just gotta do this...no matter what it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 What's being solved? Well, I dont take it to kindly to being called a "fool". I then complain about it, then I am told I have "lots of problems". This coming from a guy who complains himself in a previous post. I am just standing up for myself. Many of you think it is silly, but sometimes you just gotta do this...no matter what it looks like.you started off by coming to a thread labeled My Early Results indicate that EA Patch 1 is > Rosters ON without offering any proof of your own to the opposite you start running your mouth and belittling the guy that started the thread, and you get your panties in a bunch when someone calls you a fool? Well you are a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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