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Typical. I come here 3 times in 10 minutes, then forget to post the update. :?

It's halfway done! Obviously the majors were pretty much fine anyway, but I completed the Clippers about an hour ago. I'm playing the Pawtucket Red Sox with them now at Yankee Stadium, and all in all, it's looking pretty good. I'll need to find out how to get the portaits to work, though. All those black faces and backgrounds don't look good.

Anyway, that's all. :)

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hey Mark...I am working on the Red Sox farm system (portraits and rosters), and as a "noobie" I am wondering if its possible once you post your Yankees roster to "merge" it into my roster so I dont lose all of my work?

The Red Sox minors are already done by me and Rottz

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MarkB. and other potential Yankee modders:

I've cribbed together some Baseball America scouting reports on the system. The info is incomplete, of course, but it is a start. For the pitchers, I have listed all the pitches that the scouting reports credit them with. I added all pertinent subjective info I could find.

Eric Duncan

Significant power, esp. his lefthanded pull power

Arm is avg. at best

Agility and 1st step quickness below avg for 3b, Yankees believe he can work his way to become an avg. fielder

Robinson Cano

Arm is his best tool: strength is 65/80 on scouting scale

Below-avg, runner for an infielder

Some reports that he has below avg range, but Yankees deny this

Philip Hughes

Fastball – touches 95, sits at 90-94

Slider, Changeup

Steven White

Fastball – 95-96 mph, though more often it settles in at 92-93. Good control on the fastball. Throws fastball nearly 80% of the time.

Curveball – shows good command, power with this pitch.

Changeup – below avg, he’s working on it

Christian Garcia

Fastball 93-94 mph, tops out at 96, scouts believe he may throw harder eventually

Curveball – “a true power hammer, could be a better pitch.â€

Changeup needs work.

Marcos Vechionacci

Good plate discipline for his age, hits to all areas of field, power developing slowly. Learned in 2004 to stay back on breaking balls.

Excellent defensive tools, a plus arm, excellent range at 3b or 2b, but he may not succeed as highly if at SS

Average running speed

Melky Cabrera

Good contact, plate discipline, make for best avg. hitter in the NY minors. Hits to all areas.

Above avg throwing arm

Avg. runner

Projects to be no more than an avg. defender in CF

Bronson Sardinha

Successful hitter against both LHP and RHP

Efficient base stealer, but avg. runner

Poor fielder, high error total

Chases too many fastballs

Chien-Ming Wang

One of the best fastballs in the org, 92-95, touching 97 mph, fastball tends to have less movement than you would want

Stamina very good, but some durability questions

Splitter and slider are solid-average pitches, changeup so-so

Has trouble using his changeup and splitter vs. lefties

Jeff Marquez

Fastball in low 90’s

Heavy sinker with excellent movement – one scout likens it to Ramiro Mendoza’s.

Hard curveball that is “spotty,†has trouble getting K’s.

Average changeup

Yankees may move him to middle relief

Brett Smith

90-92 mph fastball

slider 86-88 mph, with sharp, late bite

Curveball and changeup, changeup is poor and needs work

Delivery style includes a mid-stride hesitation.

Rudy Guillen

Has great hands, kills offspeed pitches, but has major trouble with inside fastballs. Not a good pull hitter. Needs to work on plate patience. Solid to average running speed.

Jesse Hoover

Fastball 93-95 mph

Hard Curveball, some consider it a plus-pitch, but he lacks command with it

Changeup and splitter

His windup “has some deception in the way he brings the ball out of his gloveâ€

Likely to become a reliever if he can’t further develop the splitter or changeup

Tim Battle

Speed rates an 80 on the 20-80 scouting scale, but his baserunning skills are poor

Arm is well above average, excellent CF range.

Struggles with breaking balls badly

A dead-pull hitter right now

Matt DeSalvo

Relies heavily on a 88-90 mph fastball, but he has excellent command and movement on that pitch

Delivery involves a quick arm and a high, overhand arm angle

Has “fringy secondary pitches†– a changeup and curveball, the change slightly better

Durability questions – back pain has been a problem

Edwardo Sierra

Has a “lively†95 mph fastball, ranked the best in the system

Upper 80’s splitter and a hard slider

Doesn’t throw strikes consistently enough, lacks focus

Tends to fly open with his delivery

Tyler Clippard

Has savvy and control but not overwhelming stuff

Fastball 87-91 mph, throws it well for strikes

Curveball is above avg.

Changeup, slider

Abel Gomez

Fastball 91-93, touches 95, it could be a “plus-plus pitch in the futureâ€

Excellent arm speed with textbook actions

Has poor control on fastball though (see his BB total)

Lacks a quality secondary offering, curveball and changeup are fringy pitches, but they have potential.

Jon Poterson

A switch-hitter who hits slightly better from the left side, may have the most raw power potential in the system.

Sean Henn

91-93 mph fastball, little movement on it, it flies relatively straight

Lots of stamina, durability since his Tommy John surgery

Slider is an average pitch at best

Below average changeup

Good chance of moving to the bullpen this spring

Scott Proctor

94-96 mph fastball, has been known to hit 100 so he has a real live arm, but he lacks deception and command with this pitch, and has trouble fooling big leaguers with it

Serviceable slider and changeup

Ramon Ramirez

92-94 mph fastball, it tends to stay up in the strike zone

hard curveball, his best pitch

splitter

likely to be dropped into relief this year

Jason Jones

90-92 mph fastball, which has some sink

Solid-avg. slider

Curveball, changeup.

Nothing in his repertoire induces swings and misses, but he can throw them all for strikes. Great control if not overpowering. His ceiling is “limited to a back-of-the-rotation starter†in the bigs.

Kevin Thompson

70 speed on the 20-80 scouting scale

Has a plus arm

Avg. hitting ability and power, most HR come to the pull side, little opposite field pop

Has nice tools, but he’s not fundamentally sound…has trouble putting everything together on the field. Has tools to play CF but lacks instincts and savvy at that position.

Good baserunning instincts. Ceiling as a 4th outfielder in the bigs.

Ben Julianel

A reliever, and Yankees’ best in-house option as a lefty specialist

Dominates left-handed hitting

Orig. threw with ¾ delivery, now throws with more of an arm angle

88-89 mph fastball

slider is a plus pitch

average changeup

Mario Holmann

One of the fastest runners in the organization, covers 60 yds in 6.4 sec

Good basestealer, excellent fielding range

Lacks power, but good bat control and swing.

Doesn’t have quite the arm strength for SS, so 2B is more natural for him

Hector Made

Unlikely to ever be a big-league regular, Best case scenario is a ceiling as a util. Infielder.

Shows plus range and arm strength at SS, but has way too many errors

Does nothing special offensively, some gap power but little discipline.

Omir Santos

System’s best defensive catcher, his top trait, blocks balls well, good footwork, slightly above avg arm. Shows signs that he can hit enough to be a backup C in the bigs.

Maximo Nelson

Fastball up to 96 mph, he pitches in 90% of the time

Avg. curveball

No other pitches yet, so he may project as a reliever if he doesn’t develop any more.

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Here are some more tidbits from a different source:

Melky Cabrera – primarily a linedrive hitter

Eric Duncan – has power and shows comfort with the strikezone at a young age, but batting avgs. A bit low, K’s a little high

Rudy Guillen – free swinger, doesn’t have big power, isn’t a big time baserunner

Estee Harris – strong power, weak strike zone discipline

Mitch Jones – one dimensional slugger, might still pull out a Shane Spencer type career, but even that is a long shot, would struggle to hit .230 in the bigs

Eric Abreu – fastball in the low 90s, good control of it

Colter Bean – not much giddy-up on his fastball, relies on a deceptive sidearm delivery

Tyler Clippard – a “Jon Lieber†wannabe, fastball not strong but good curve and excellent control. Fairly hittable so he needs another pitch.

Matt DeSalvo – little guy with “a funky delivery.†Likely to move to middle relief, relies too much on his tricky fastball.

Abel Gomez – smallish lefty who throws hard, has trouble with his control

Sean Henn – Tommy John surgery and shoulder problems raise major durability questions. Heading to bullpen.

Jesse Hoover – great strikeout rate, a good future indicator. Still working on off-speed stuff. If he can’t master a new pitch, he’s going to the bullpen.

Ben Julianel – soft tossing lefty reliever. Funky delivery.

Ramon Ramirez – 95 mph fastball, good curve, gives up lots of line drive hits. Headed to middle relief.

Edwardo Sierra – good fastball, splitter, trouble controlling them.

Chien-Ming Wang – Secondary pitches are erratic.

Steven White – good fastball that is getting faster, off-speed pitches coming along.

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And finally, some more excerpted comments on the Yanks from our friend John Sickels:

Eric Abreu

90-92 fastball with movement

curveball, changeup. None of the pitches are spectacular but he throws them for strikes. Some wonder how durable he will be. C+

Erold Andrus

Works count effectively, not a walk guy and needs to be more selective, but doesn’t strike out either. Rumors he may be moved to 1B. Grade C+

T. J. Beam

89-91 mph fastball, the fastball sinks a lot

effective slider, Grade C

Colter Bean

Outstanding K/IP ratio, K/BB ratio, H/IP ratio, low home run rate. Weird delivery. Dominating Triple A. Grade C+

Melky Cabrera

Doesn’t draw enough walks, but doesn’t strike out either, linedrive, .280ish projected hitter, power is questionable, might have a ceiling of 15 HR. Strong arm, fielding range not great. May need to move from CF to RF. Grade B-

Robinson Cano

Hits line drives well but will probably never be a huge power hitter. Defense remains a question. Other teams don’t believe he is a long-term 2b prospect, which has hurt his trade value. Grade B-

Tyler Clippard

89-92 mph fastball, good curveball, changeup improving. Grade C+

Matt Desalvo

88-89 mph fastball, good slider, excellent changeup. Back injuries may have hurt his 2004 stats badly. Grade C.

Eric Duncan

Won’t “be a great hitter for batting average, but he will provide plenty of power, walks, and a high OBP and SLG. He is only average at 3b. A move to 1b would be logical, but Yankees keep him at third to improve his trade value. “One of the most impressive young sluggers in the game.†Could be ready by 2007. Grade B+

Christian Garcia

90-94 mph fastball, curveball and changeup are erratic right now. Command and control need work but his overall ceiling is excellent. Grade C+.

Abel Gomez

90-94 mph fastball, his breaking ball has potential to be a plus offering. Main need right now is to develop command. Grade C+.

Alex Graman

Avg. fastball, good split-finger, slider, changeup. Has made moderate progress with his command. Could develop into a Mark Redman type or languish in AAA the rest of his career. Grade C.

Rudy Guillen.

One of the most athletic players in the organization, but he has yet to translate that to the field. Major power drop in 2004. Ankle problems. Grade C.

Este Harris

Good power, but he tries too hard to hit them out, leading to plate discipline problems. Doesn’t work count effectively. Grade C.

Sean Henn

91-93 mph fastball, sometimes higher, slider is decent. Mediocre command, does not change speeds well. Headed for bullpen. Grade C

Jesse Hoover

95 mph fastball with “vicious movement†down in the strike zone

Erratic but overall good curveball.

Good stuff, but will his control hold at higher levels? Grade C+

Phil Hughes

91-94 mph fastball is his best pitch.

Slider and changeup need additional work, but are likely to improve, slider could be outstanding some day

Command is very string for a young pitcher. Grade B.

Jason Jones

Avg. fastball, at 89-91 mph

Curveball, changeup, slider. Grade C.

Ben Julianel

Fastball mediocre, but slider is excellent, the pitch that allows him to be very effective against lefties. Grade C.

Jeff Marquez

90-94 mph sinking fastball, changeup, curve. Grade C.

Maximo Nelson

90-95 mph fastball, good control. Is a bit too old for the level he is at, which creates uncertainty. Grade C.

Andy Phillips

Doesn’t strike out much for a power guy, has gradually increased his walk rate. Can play many infield positions, but avg. range and arm at them all. More limited range at 2b or 3b. Grade C.

Ramon Ramirez

Originally came up as an OF in the Rangers system. 90-94 mph fastball, curve is often good. Still needs to work on pitch placement and control. Grade C.

John Rodriguez

Skilled minor league hitter with slim chance to contribute in NY. Good power bat, but struggles against lefties, erratic plate discipline. 27 yrs old. Another candidate as a Shane Spencer-type longshot. Grade C.

Bronson Sardinha

Can hit for avg. and has good plate discipline. Power less than expected. Poor defender at both 3b and SS. Better in the OF, but still not great. Grade C+.

Brett Smith

Has a 90 mph fastball, also a wicked slider, one of the best breaking pitches of the recently drafted class. Changeup isn’t effective yet. Some scouts worry about his durability. May move to bullpen if changeup doesn’t develop. Grade C+

Jason Stephens

88 mph fastball, but he is developing and will likely add velocity. Curveball could be a plus pitch with development. Good command and control for his age. Grade C.

Marcos Vechionacci

Considerable refinement as a hitter for his age, power hasn’t developed yet, but is likely to eventually. Hits for average, makes contact. Good walk rate, few K’s, good gap power. Main question is defense. Has a strong arm, but not the hands or range for SS. Might profile best as a 3b. But he will likely be a “very good, perhaps excellent†hitter. Grade B.

Chien-ming Wang

Shoulder surgery caused him to lose 2 years. Has recovered his 95 mph fastball, slder and split-finger are improving. Grade B-.

Steven White

90-92 mph fastball, sometimes reaches 95. Too reliant on the fastball, has decent curveball and changeup, scouts think he should use them more. Strikeout rate may not signal future big league success, though. Grade B-.

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Here's some idea of the MLE's (Major League Equivalents) of the Yankees minor leaguers who played enough last year to have a good sample size. Px is a power rating (100 being the league average for a major leaguer). Sx is the same kind of thing except for speed. The final three categories might be most useful. Some of these guys may be out of the system at this point...

Todd Betts .221, 3 HR, .33 BB/K ratio, 61 px, 36 sx.

Homer Bush .235, 2 HR, .20 BB/K ratio, 56 px, 69 sx.

Andy Canizaro .255, 3 HR, .87 BB/K ratio, 52 px, 50 sx.

Robinson Cano .267, 12 HR, .67 BB/K ratio, 94 px, 80 sx.

Caonabo Cosme .218, 3 HR, .29 BB/K, 54 px, 85 sx.

Jeff Deardorff .238, 16HR, .39 BB/K, 81 px, 85 sx.

Felix Escalona .276, 6 HR, .52 BB/K, 77 px, 62 sx.

Sal Fasano .183, 8 HR, .17 BB/K, 100 px, 30 sx.

Omar Fuentes .212, 4 HR, .70 BB/K, 66 px, 24 sx.

Jason Grove .227, 8 HR, .26 BB/K, 77 px, 50 sx

Marcus Jensen .184, 3 HR, .54 BB/K, 50 px, 16 sx.

Mitch Jones .182, 27 HR, .28 BB/K, 123 px, 100 sx.

Mike Kelly .206, 12 HR, .38 BB/K, 90 px, 86 sx.

Jason Maule .216, 0 HR, .97 BB/K, 20 px, 74 sx.

Donzell McDonald .147, 3 HR, .28 BB/K, 97 px, 178 sx.

Jackson Melian .208, 6 HR, .36 BB/K, 92 px, 140 sx.

Brian Myrow .246, 7 HR, .44 BB/K, 99 px, 87 sx.

Teuris Olivares .161, 5 HR, .51 BB/K, 70 px, 76 sx.

Dave Parrish .209, 1 HR, .29 BB/K, 42 px, 57 sx.

Andy Phillips .254, 23 HR, .64 BB/K, 112 px, 93 sx.

Kevin Reese .249, 11 HR, .33 BB/K, 102 px, 119 sx.

Aaron Rifkin .202, 17 HR, .32 BB/K, 99 px, 57 sx.

Bo Robinson .181, 2 HR, .38 BB/K, 59 px, 55 sx.

John Rodriguez .257, 14 HR, .51 BB/K, 124 px, 162 sx.

Nate Rolison .217, 14 HR, .39 BB/K, 93 px, 36 sx.

Bronson Sardinha .237, 5 HR, .55 BB/K, 66 px, 70 sx.

Fernando Seguignol .291, 23 HR, .36 BB/K, 145 px, 39 sx.

J.T. Stotts .199, 3 HR, .67 BB/K, 50 px, 56 sx.

Ferdin Tejeda .151, 0 HR, .31 BB/K, 10 px, 31 sx.

Kevin Thompson .227, 7 HR, .57 BB/K, 86 px, 103 sx.

Michael Vento .261, 11 HR, .36 BB/K, 89 px, 63 sx.

Jake Weber .187, 4 HR, .37 BB/K, 52 px, 71 sx.

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In terms of star rating, Duncan certainly merits the "super" rating.

Probably nobody else in the system merits it. Maybe our new scouting director this year will change that.

Hughes and Vechionacci, I'd argue, definitely deserve the "lots" rating.

Cabrera, Cano, Wang and White are sort of borderline for "lots." I'm not sure how many players in the overall game get this rating, so I'd feel comfortable placing any of them in the "lots" category. Cabrera and White would be the best choices, since they have room to grow. Cano and Wang look like they might break the bigs, but they are running out of time to really explode onto the scene.

The other top 30 type prospects all merit "average" potential, in my opinion.

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Wow, that's a lot of information! Thanks a lot for that, ZMan.

I'm pretty much finished the Clippers and I've not had much of a chance to start full work on the Thunder yet (Been watching some new DVD's all day :D), but I'll have a game of MVP just now, then start on the Thunder.

As of now, I'm pretty happy with the reults I'm getting with the Clippers, so I'll probably leave them as-is, other than a few minor changes here and there.

Thanks again!

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OK, I've been working on it to keep my head active just now, and I've gotten pretty far from what I can see. I'm working on Tampa just now, but I'm not quite sure the status of Thunder yet. I'll complete Tampa first and check it out. It's going quite well, though.

I'm also going to be taking a look at the lineups and rotations based on a page I found earlier that said Jeff Deardorff had been released from Columbus, so Eric Duncan will be getting the 3B job in Ohio. I might have to add another player in to make up for that, but that's fine. I'll probably move a few players up or down as necessary, but I'm hoping for a first release at the end of next week at the latest.

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One more quick update - Tampa look to be done. There are 8 guys on the Thunder roster that I haven't done too much on, so I'll give them study and complete it.

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I'm having trouble finding some info on Nate Griffen, the catcher. Anyone have any links for him? Can't seem to find anything. I'm also looking for pitching info for Buddy Carlyle and Charlie Manning and a scouting report on first baseman Craig Wilson.

Also, is Carlos Reyes still in our system? TSN.ca has him listed as a free agent after he opted for it in October '04.

All is going well so far, looks like all the batters are done (Apart from Nate Griffen) and only a couple of the pitchers are still to be worked out.

EDIT - Updated again. I've totally filled out all the lineups. Except for the cases above, the rosters are complete. I've still to do the appearance sections for AA and A, but other than that, it looks to be done. I'm still having a look around at everything to make sure it's OK, and I might sim a season or 2 to see how it goes and to check what the roster is coming out with.

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Just a small update.

The rosters, rotations and lineups are pretty much set now. I doubt they'll change between now and release.

Right now, I'm working on Appearances, but I've still to verify the whole thing.

I'm still looking for information on Nate Griffen, Buddy Carlyle, Mike Martinez, Carlos Reyes and Charlie Manning. If anyone has any, let me know. If I don't have any before Thursday, I'll just release it with some general information. I was hoping to have it almost done by now, but it looks like Friday would be a pretty good guess.

Apologies for the wait.

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They're already done, McD. They were 2 of the first ones I did. Thanks, though. :)

Since I'm here, might as well post a quick update - the A level appearances are now done. Moving onto AA now, and hopefully after that it should be smooth. The ones in AAA I think I did last week, but I'll double-check.

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make sure Chien gets his fair shake. He is actually our best pitching prospect. At least thats what an article said ( I think it was BA) also, if you could make it a batch file or something other than MVPEdit I would REALLY REALLY apprectiate it. Thanks for all ur hard work

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MD, thanks. The only things I need right now are some details on the players I posted earlier. Other than that, it's almost done. I went to bed about 10 minutes after posting that (Another all-nighter) and only woke up a few minutes ago.

MVPmodder, I think I have. He's got his fastball, splitter, slider and changeup and is looking pretty good. I agree, he's the best we have to offer in the pitching department for the immediate future. A Couple of guys in AA and A might develop into good - or even great - pitchers, but not for a few years at least. I'll try to make is as accessible as possible when released, and am still going with the MVPEdit and .sav file idea.

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OK, looking good. Appearances are all done, star powers are done, looks like everything is done but one thing: salaries.

What do you guys want to have? Will I give all the minor leaguers 100k, 1 year contracts and you guys can sort them out yourselves, or will I give the better players longer contracts and more money?

It's at a decent stage now and I'm about to start testing it, so this is the last chance for any additions before a release. Remember though, this is the pre-Opening Day version, so this will be known as "Before Opening Day version 1". After Opening Day, I'll probably be releasing an updated one with correct lineups etc. I've still to make some documentation for it and finish global editing the pitchers, so I should have uploaded it by tonight at about...5pm? That's 12pm EST, 11am CST, 10am MST and 10am PST. I'll post here when it's uploaded, anyway.

And I've got that damn feeling like I've forgotten something.

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OK, guys, it's awaiting verification.

I've uploaded the .mbe versions and the .sav version, so hopefully that should suit everyone. :)

I've created a thread in the support forum for questions etc., so please post in there with anything you need answered or comments. :) The thread is at http://www.mvpmods.com/index.php?name=Foru...p;p=81655#81655.

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