Ducwizard Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 This my friends, is a complete JOKE! This was taken from an interview with the game's associate producer. Read it and and feel like I do when I see this beautiful game turn into a CHOPPY STUTTERING piece of SHI*!!! >Operation Sports: There were frame rate complaints on the PC and Xbox >last year, has this been improved? Will we see 720p for the Xbox again this >year? >Ben Brinkman: One of our goals at the beginning of this project was to >have a game that ran consistently at 60 frames per second. We met this >goal on all platforms. I don’t know too many games that can say that. In >doing so we had to make some sacrifices such as cutting base coaches. I >know this is a “game killer†to some people but as a long time gamer I >would take 60fps any day of the week over base coaches who are there to >be nothing more than eye candy. A smooth playing game is the ultimate to >me, but I could be wrong. ïŠ Ducwizard EDIT - Title changed by Mark B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbully Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had zero problems - it's all about your settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mflv Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Base coaches ????????????? When were there ever base coaches???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Same with me. No problems at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I upgraded to XP sp2 last night from SP1, now the replays are choppy but game play is still smooth. I can live with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APR Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Wow...I don't believe it. But what am I not supposed to believe??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had zero problems - it's all about your settings I'm not sure I'd jump to that conclusion....Although I have no problems, there are enough people claiming to have them that I have to believe it. Some guys that really know their way around a computer are still having problems... A buddy of mine has fully 2X the computer I have, and he has problems...I haven't had time to go there and look into it at all, but if you have a good machine, you should just be able to install the game and play...you shouldn't have to crank up AA and AF or underclock your video card in order to get smooth gameplay. It is a coding problem. I say that because it occurs on machines that are powerful enough to maintain 60FPS...a game that runs at 60FPS shouldn't be choppy at all. My machine, which is old and slow by today's standards, runs the game quite nicely with high detail settings. On cut scenes and stuff, when the game climbs to 50-60FPS, it gets choppy, while at 30-40FPS it's fairly smooth...shouldn't it be smoother at 50-60FPS??? Fortunately for me, it doesn't hit 60FPS very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdriver Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had zero problems - it's all about your settings I just have to sit back and laugh at comments such as this. Another words, what you're saying is "My machine works ok, so why in the world isn't everyone as wonderful as I am with a computer?" I know my way around a computer and can tweak and tune with the best of 'em. It is a damn coding problem! Plain and simple!! Just because some of you are lucky enough not to have been hit with the "bug", don't try and pretend the problem doesn't legitimately exist for us other unlucky ones. ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitoon Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I just have to sit back and laugh at comments such as this. Another words, what you're saying is "My machine works ok, so why in the world isn't everyone as wonderful as I am with a computer?" I know my way around a computer and can tweak and tune with the best of 'em. It is a damn coding problem! Plain and simple!! Just because some of you are lucky enough not to have been hit with the "bug", don't try and pretend the problem doesn't legitimately exist for us other unlucky ones. ez Pretty much what I was trying to say... I'm not excusing EA in the least, but imagine trying to code a game to work on the millions of different hardware/software setups out there...add to that different configurations of different hardware...add to that a significant portion of the computer using public are just that "computer users" they can't tweak to save their lives... That's why software companies love consoles so much, nothing changes, ever. Having said that, there is still no excuse for releasing the game with that problem...I know nothing of their testing policies and procedures, but they should have tested it on dozens of different set ups...if they did, they surely would have seen this problem, and if they did, SHAME ON EA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastasports1 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had no stuttering at all. I have no idea why all of these people are complaining like **** when it is a problem on their end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsfan Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had no stuttering at all. I have no idea why all of these people are complaining like [naughty word] when it is a problem on their end I wouldn't say that, Pats1....I am running on a good machine and my game is choppy. Fortunately, it doesn't bother me enough to care, and I'm not messing around with my chip settings or anything like that for a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdriver Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I submitted a report to EA's Support service yesterday. The rep sends me back a typical EA "soundbite" that "EA has not been able to replicate this reported problem on our PC's". I about fell out of my chair, for crying out loud!! I very politely but emphatically replied that evidently the EA PC people weren't trying hard enough because all they have to do is visit an MVP fan site to see all the instances of people having the exact same stuttering problem. I have yet to get a response from them. ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdriver Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Mastasports1: Just out of curiosity, what kind of POS computer ARE you running the game on? ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdriver Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Well, I just got the following reply from EA: Hello Thank you for being patient, and sorry for any inconvenience. There seems to be an issue with certain video cards that we are looking into. Last year there was a patch released that resolved this issue. As of now we are still researching the issue, we have unfortunately gone through all the troubleshooting steps that we can at this point. We will try to rectify this issue in a future patch release, so just make sure that you keep the software updated. So, to all you non-believers, there must be some truth to the rumor that there could be someting wrong with this game. I really think that the response you get from EA depends on who you correspond with. ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsfan Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I hope they are serious about addressing this issue and not just dicking around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducwizard Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had zero problems - it's all about your settings Incorrect! Myself as well as others who are having this problem run dozens of other, more demanding games than MVP, all without any issues. My machine is tweeked as well as it can be tweeked. The game IMO has a problem with refresh rate and vsync. Ducwizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbully Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I just have to sit back and laugh at comments such as this. Another words, what you're saying is "My machine works ok, so why in the world isn't everyone as wonderful as I am with a computer?" ezyou said it not me - seriously dude - chill out! Last year I experienced the problem. This Christmas I got a new card MSI 9800 Pro and I've had no problems, with any games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg2977 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Well, I'm waiting until all choppiness/stuttering on all platforms is fixed. I'm not getting it for the PC just yet, as I have an older computer. I'll just suffer with MVP 2005 on GameCube for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had zero problems - it's all about your settings Ok, by now, you should know, it has nothing to do with your settings dude!!! There are people, incluiding myself, that have a 6800 GT, and higher, and have stutter problems, I got them mainly under control, but I tweaked this damn thing for days, to get this gameplay. Secondly, just think, a machine that can rund Ever Quest II, in 1600x1200 full graphics on, and it flies, but cant get a lousy baseball game running, sorry there is just no way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbully Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 ya'll just don't get it - I don't ever leave my video settings "stock". My last remark was made tongue-in-cheek...i'm sorry you peeps don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 ya'll just don't get it - I don't ever leave my video settings "stock". My last remark was made tongue-in-cheek...i'm sorry you peeps don't get it No, you dont get it! FYI, youre not supposed to be tweaking a video card setting to even get the game going smoothly. It is there to enhance AA/AF, increase the clock speed, refresh rates, etc. but to just get going, and play without stuttering, for any game in the world, you shouldnt have to adjust ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbully Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 youre not supposed to be tweaking a video card setting to even get the game going smoothly. It is there to enhance AA/AF, increase the clock speed, refresh rates, etc. but to just get going, and play without stuttering, for any game in the world, you shouldnt have to adjust [naughty word]. agreed and I have not done so. Whenever I get a new card, or install a new one in someone else's computer, I always tweak it. I test it w/benchmarks, not by actual games. So what I'm saying is that when I got the new card, I tweaked it then - I got the game months later and I've not had to make any adjustments. I can send you some info if you need any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastasports1 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I think it's the user's fault. Like I have always said, I never have and still don't have any stuttering problems. I really don't think it's EA's fault if it's not happening to everyone Or maybe it's just different video cards that have the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdriver Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 mastasports1 & bigbully: You two were planted here by EA, right? ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbully Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 yes - lol :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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