ezdriver Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Thought so!!! :wink: :wink: :wink: ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 No doubt. EA's support blows in every which way. But, I have found compromises that enable me to enjoy the game. I really started having MORE of the frame rate issues with the official patch. The grass shimmering was brutal out of the box with the default settings on my Radeon 9800 Pro card with the latest drivers from Omega but with Truform on. I have a Dell 2.4 Ghz with 512 megs, so I am probably in the middle of the pack these days, but every other Sports game is butter smooth with every option maxed. I have a 19" LCD that supposedly has a 12 ms response rate maxed at 1280x1024 at 60 Hz. I did notice a difference on other games a few months back, when I upgraded from a previous 25ms LCD in terms of smoothness and ghosting. I use a Logitech Rumblepad 2 with vibration ON. I have since switched to the DNA latest driver(beta) and have AA at 2X and AF at 8X with Truform ON, Vertical Sync ON and Texture and Mipmap at High Quality and the game is running quite smooth 99% of the time and the shimmering is non-existant. On throws across the diamond, I still get some ball skip framerate issues but its not a dealbreaker anymore. The rest of the action really is nice and smooth and the overall screen doesnt seem to have jitter anymore nor does it seem to effect the gamepad interaction either. That is with everything maxed on the visual and sound options. Good luck to you guys still with the issues. I feel for you. Maybe some of this info will help you guys with Radeon cards. I really enjoy the game much more than last year due to the defense issues being fixed now and not having to come up with non-baseball solutions. Also, the physics are much better after the ball is hit now too. You really notice it on balls hit to the alleys and down the lines. So, I am quite happy with the gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsfan Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 mastasports1 & bigbully: You two were planted here by EA, right? ez Hmmm....Masta IS a Madden fanboy.....you might be on to something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncooper777 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I can say this, I had a problem then I upgraded to win service pak 2. Now I have a MUCH better flow with less choppyness, however they have had 1yr solid to get rid of ALL choppyness, There's JUST NO EXCUSE!!! Asus 3500+, radon pro 9800, 1gig ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schitonk Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 man, i played a few games on a friends ps2 last night and couldn't believe how smooth it was. i too surely hope they get to fixing this and don't write off mvp altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastasports1 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Mastasports1: Just out of curiosity, what kind of POS computer ARE you running the game on? ez Radeon X300 SE PCI express 128 MB video card 1 GB RAM All MVP setting maxed out No monitor/external settings messed with since manufacturing And no, I am not from EA. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducwizard Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 Radeon X300 SE PCI express 128 MB video card 1 GB RAM All MVP setting maxed out No monitor/external settings messed with since manufacturing And no, I am not from EA. :wink: What resolution are you running in? Ducwizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schitonk Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I think it's the user's fault. Like I have always said, I never have and still don't have any stuttering problems. I really don't think it's EA's fault if it's not happening to everyone Or maybe it's just different video cards that have the problem it's all a crapshoot. you got lucky. congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excremento Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've only had the game for 48 hours and haven't had a whole lot of time to play. Can somebody define "choppiness"? For me, the game runs pretty smoothly, but throws from 3rd to 1st do seem a little off. I'm guessing others are having issues more severe than this (?). I'm running a 2 GHz Sempron with nVidia 6600 GT card and 512 Ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsepower Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I've had zero problems - it's all about your settings Quite possibly the most ignorant response I have ever seen on this site . . . period. I mean . . . I'm just speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsepower Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I think it's the user's fault. Like I have always said, I never have and still don't have any stuttering problems. I really don't think it's EA's fault if it's not happening to everyone Or maybe it's just different video cards that have the problem I stand corrected. This is the most ignorant post I have ever seen on this site. Just because it doesn't happen to everyone it can't be EA's fault??? The person who posted that nonesense is obviously NOT a scholar of logic or the mysteries of the universe . . . still mastering the art of the French Fryer at McDonalds I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrGAce Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Again, I am running a dual Athlon MP 1800+ with a 1GB of RAM. The game runs and looks smooth, however like everyone else throws from the outfield or throws from third to first are choppy and stutter at times. There is nothing smooth about it. Now, with that said, before I got MVP, I was playing The Punisher, and that game runs smooth, without stuttering. To vent my frustration with EA, I pretend all the bad guys are EA programmers! It helps....but my point is, how can it not be the game, or the combination of game and certain video cards. Is this what we get for releasing it a week earlier? AceMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drovebykeptgoing1 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Eazy now flames and trolls never help anything, just remember its a game have some fun dont let it anger you if it wont run on your rig, play it on a console, or dont play at all, be patient, if the fix it the fix it mean time dont whine and moan try a different approach, so many threads on this already Cmon men be men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazedcat Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Has anyone ever considered it might not be the video card or drivers, but some sort of data transfer problem from the hard drive? Could it be that people here with monster sized hard drives using newer data transfer technologies are having issues, while guys like me who are chugging along with 40 gig ATA 7200 rpm hard drives aren't struggling with this issue at all? I have no answers, but maybe food for thought? Regards; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbully Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Quite possibly the most ignorant response I have ever seen on this site . . . period. I mean . . . I'm just speechless. any you my friend are now the most ignorant person on this site. Don't come in here for one month and criticize. I'm done w/you Mr. Ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 No, you dont get it! FYI, youre not supposed to be tweaking a video card setting to even get the game going smoothly. It is there to enhance AA/AF, increase the clock speed, refresh rates, etc. but to just get going, and play without stuttering, for any game in the world, you shouldnt have to adjust [naughty word]. I'm sorry... but I have to laugh at this comment. There are MANY, MANY games out there that require you to mess around with your videocard's driver settings, in one degree or another, to make them play as they are supposed to be played. There's definitely something going on with EA as this is not a new problem... it has been present with previous MVP and Madden games, but the reality is that it is not a general problem, but instead a specific one, as it doesn't affect everybody out there. I've been involved in at least 20 different game developing projects (is good to have friends in the industry, hehe) as part of alpha and beta testing groups (and I'm not talking about your open public beta releases here, but instead, for releases that are kept behind closed doors). There has been many, many games that have experienced problems similars to the stuttering problems that plague MVP. Some are fixed and some aren't. Only a few guys from this thread have sinceriously mentioned a fact that really determines what's going on... and that is that game develepment for the PC platform is really a complex process in which many factors play an important part. It doesn't matter if you have the latest videocard available, or one from a past generation... heck, you could even have a prototype and you'll still, one way or the other, face some problems with some games, because the simple combination of 'X' hardware + 'Y' settings + 'Z' software installed in your PC makes for a perfect 'Pandora's box' as the results can vary considerably in many cases. Oh... and btw, I don't work for EA either... I'm just a guy with some experience in game development (at least from the testing process POV)... and one that 'thinks' before spewing gibberish out just because his game doesn't run perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentQ Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 P4 2.8ghz 512 RAM 128MB ATI 9600 Pro and I get stutter no matter what I do to the video card or settings. any other game (Doom, Half Life, anything!! I have perfectly smooth gameplay) EA needs to put out a patch, but i highly doubt it knowing their rep. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schitonk Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 any you my friend are now the most ignorant person on this site. Don't come in here for one month and criticize. I'm done w/you Mr. Ignorant. what are you, 11? that made about as much sense as EA releasing yet another beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMVP Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 EA Sports' baseball title has always been the ******* child of the sports lineup. It started with Triple Play 2000 and continued throughout the years until they finally messed things up so much that they had to rename the series MVP Baseball. Although no one will admit it, every year the baseball title is rushed out the door. I remember when you had to wait till April to pickup the game, now its as soon as February! The only reason EA has a share in the PC market is because of the demise of High Heat. There are never any major advacements made. Every year they add some fluff and upgrade the rosters. Its funny how they mention axing the base coaches yet refuse to bring back or even recognize the fact that 99% of their customer base wants the damn catcher to throw the ball back to the pitcher. (Atleast that percentage was accurate a few years back)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAZ13 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I think some people are getting the "stuttering" problem confused with framerate. The game runs at a nice high framerate, but for many people on PC, there is some sort of issue that is causing it to stutter... with the game sort of jerking forward. It's not slowed down or choppy in the way it would be on a slow PC (i.e. a low framerate), but a visible, legitimate "stuttering" of the video frames. It has nothing to do with settings when it happens on a 2.6 GHz AMD FX55 with 1GB of RAM and a Geforce 6800. When Halflife 2 and Doom 3 run like a dream and a baseball game exhibits a strange stuttering effect, it's NOT the PC and it's NOT the settings. It's something that needs to be patched, because there's obviously something wrong if it's happening to that many PC players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLMonkey Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I think it is absolutley hilarious that this is still being debated. There IS a problem with the game. Accept it. Just because it runs fine on your machine doesnt mean it runs fine on every machine. There has been extensive research done by posters here. The stuttering has a definate correlation with the type of machine you are running. It also clearly runs 'smoother' on a low end machine. I have done some tests myself. On my old TI4200 and AMD 2500, it ran ok but had to crank the AA/AF. But on my X800XT and FX-53, it stuttered like hell even with 16X AF and 6X AA. The ***ONLY ONLY ONLY*** way I am ever able to get this bugged game to run decently smooth is to underclock the hell out of my card and keep the goodies cranked. Effectivley making my $3000 custom built HL2/Doom3 killer of a machine.. slow enough to keep the game in synch. Its NOT drivers.. Its NOT settings.. Its the damn game. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdriver Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Its the damn game. Period. Or as EA likes to say, "It's in the game" :wink: ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducwizard Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 I think it is absolutley hilarious that this is still being debated. There IS a problem with the game. Accept it. Just because it runs fine on your machine doesnt mean it runs fine on every machine. There has been extensive research done by posters here. The stuttering has a definate correlation with the type of machine you are running. It also clearly runs 'smoother' on a low end machine. I have done some tests myself. On my old TI4200 and AMD 2500, it ran ok but had to crank the AA/AF. But on my X800XT and FX-53, it stuttered like hell even with 16X AF and 6X AA. The ***ONLY ONLY ONLY*** way I am ever able to get this bugged game to run decently smooth is to underclock the hell out of my card and keep the goodies cranked. Effectivley making my $3000 custom built HL2/Doom3 killer of a machine.. slow enough to keep the game in synch. Its NOT drivers.. Its NOT settings.. Its the damn game. Period. BINGO! You are exactly correct. "Somebody get that guy a free copy of MVP Baseball 2005 and make sure it's not the PC version". Ducwizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I stand corrected. This is the most ignorant post I have ever seen on this site. Just because it doesn't happen to everyone it can't be EA's fault??? The person who posted that nonesense is obviously NOT a scholar of logic or the mysteries of the universe . . . still mastering the art of the French Fryer at McDonalds I would guess. It's quite shocking you had the guts to call those 2 posts ignorant, when in 2 of your posts in this thread, you've singled out other people's posts and argued with them. In your 2 posts in this thread, you've insulted 2 people. You're batting 1.000. Good job. You have no right at all on this site to say that about any user here. Maybe if you guessed less and knew your facts better, you might be a nicer person. Consider this an informal warning. You make any more of those guesses in public here, and you probably won't be here very long. You've only been a member here for 15 days, so try and do yourself a favour by not becoming one of the quickest suspended members. Now, back on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee4Life Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Horsepower, check your PM's. You've only been here since February 23rd and you've gone and insulted some of our finest people just in this thread alone. We got by on this forum without you all this time. You won't be missed if you get my drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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