Still waiting...

[PeterOS]

for a patch to fix the choppy play.

This is really getting frustrating. I've uninstalled the game and waiting for it to be fixed. It's unplayable for me.

I'm also missing out on all these great mods for the game.

This really pisses me off. :x

[gepetto]

i hear ya brother :cry:

[Trues]

I feel your pain. My game is playing like crap too. I've tried everything.

[hefalumps]

Same for me as well...

I have a Dell Dimension 8250 with 2.52 GHz, 256 MB RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 TX with 128MB RAM...

I've tried the latest Dell drivers for the vid card, the latest Catalyst drivers, the DNA drivers from 3dguru, DirectX 9.0, DirectX 9.0c (which broke my OOTP6 thank you very much), I've installed Radlinker to be able to tinker with overclocking/underclocking the vid card - nothing improves the chopiness. It is somewhat playable - but it always "hiccups" a lot in the infield, especially right as people catch the ball, and at other random times.

I went back and tried MVP 2004 just to compare - and honestly, now that MVP 2005 has made me ultrasensitive to chopiness - there was some of that same chopiness in 2004 also that I don't remember being there. After the patches to MVP 2004, it had become pretty darn smooth for me. Even tho I could still detect chopiness in 2004, 2005 is way worse.

One thing I was able to do was fix the "fuzzy grass" with the AA/AF stuff. But all the other suggestions - Vsync, monitor refresh rate, resolution, updated drivers/DirectX, etc. - nothing has made a significant difference in the chopiness.

Maybe I just need more memory. I'm clearing a bunch of stuff of my hard drive and defragging it tonight just in case that makes any difference.

If anyone else has an ATI Radeon in a Dell dimension and you're NOT experiencing chopiness, please tell me what all your video settings are at. I'm willing to try anything... but I feel like I've already tried everything.

At least it sounds like EA has been owning up to there being an actual problem in the last couple of days.

[BadMan]

You guys should try the K.S.M. datafile. my mvp was chopping pretty bad as well untill I installed the datafile, now it runs smooth as silk... I dont know if its the new camerawork or the improved animations but it does the trick!

[hefalumps]

You guys should try the K.S.M. datafile. my mvp was chopping pretty bad as well untill I installed the datafile, now it runs smooth as silk... I dont know if its the new camerawork or the improved animations but it does the trick!

I'll definitely give that a shot. When the camera is still (batting, pitching, etc.) - I don't have a whole lot of chopiness (the occasional stutter or hiccup when there's a big swing or something). So maybe this will make a difference - thanks for the suggestion!

[MikeB]

Have you read all of the threads on the choppiness problems? Technically speaking, cranking up AA and AF should fix the problem for ATI cards.

[gepetto]

ea said AA and AF should be OFF; what they told me.

[MikeB]

Most people here say cranking it up solves the problem.

[hefalumps]

Hm... if I have AA and AF off, my grass looks psychadelic. I've gotta turn it on unless someone mods the grass textures. AA/AF is definitely a confirmed grass fix for me - but not a stutter fix.

A lot of people have also said that underclocking their card helps the stuttering... but it makes it marginally worse on mine, if anything. It's weird how that works.

[MikeB]

Keep trying the AA and AF at higher levels.

[rmats100]

I recently played the game at work on a similar dell 2.6p4 with a 9600pro, but it has a gig of ram. At first it was unplayable, extreme chopp and studder. I left AA and AF off but messed with hardware acceleration, refresh rates and overides, checked my page file status, and increased in game resolution to 1280x1024. This made a huge difference. Definately playabe but not even close too the smoothness of my home pc which strangely enough is faster xp3000 6800gt. Don't know if this will help but give it a shot. Also I don't think HDD space is an issue. I'd worry about RAM. 256 might not cut it. Especially if you use Win XP. With enough RAM, HDD space or speed is even less of an issue. Good luck.

[goose]

Yeh know I've read dozens and dozens and dozens of these threads on this board and on other boards about chopiness and weird grass, and I've never seen it. Haven't seen it on my computer, and havent seen it on three other of my friends computers.

Weird :?

Here are my specs btw and my friends computers are even close to mine. No changes or notin, just straight install and play.

2.7 Ghz Pentium IV

1GB DDR 2700

160GB Seagate HD

Radeon 9200 128 mb AGP

Asus P4Sp-MX Motherboard

SoundMAX Digital Audio

19 Inch Envision LCD Monitor with HD @ 1280X1084

CD-RW Drive @ 52X24X52

DVD+-RW Drive @16X8X16

[hefalumps]

Hm... I've still got room in for two 512MB chips of RAM... maybe I'll splurge and go buy some.

[homersheineken]

Hm... I've still got room in for two 512MB chips of RAM... maybe I'll splurge and go buy some.

Don't waste your money, it won't help for this game.

I had serious stuttering problems and chopiness and goofy grass (no, not the ganja:) ).

Specs:

3.1 ghz w/ HT

512 ram

128 video ATI Mobitily 9700

After cranking AA and AF to the max, under clocking my video card to 198/283 and using the KSM file it's playing real smooth with incredible graffix. Try those (I'm talking to everyone here) and see if that helps. Just keep tyring.....o=nce you get it, it's the sweetest playing and looking baseball game ever!!!!!

[smsudi]

I just cranked my AA and AF all way the up and the grass looks great now. The graphics look amazing.

But now instead of a stuttering, it's more of a normal lag. I think that's more a case of my system. It's my laptop at college.

p4 2.8ghz

512 mb ddr

ati radeon 9600

I'm running the game at 1024x768x32. Should I lower the AA and AF a little maybe? Or will I hafta lower the detail settings? Or is it just the fact that the game just has problems with stuttering?

[hefalumps]

The underclocking has only made things worse for me so far. I'm hoping the KSM datafile will help.

Just out of curiosity homersheineken, when you max out your AA and AF, what exactly are your settings? On my card I can move AF to 16x Quality or 16x Performance or 16x Forced. Not sure what the difference is (I've tried all three and haven't noticed a substantial difference between them). And with the AA, I have other options besides the multiplication factors (like 6XT2 or something like that). I'm currently using the latest Catalyst drivers for my ATI card.

I'm using Radlinker to handle the underclocking/overclocking of my card as well as doing the AA and AF setting solely for MVP 2005. However, I don't know how to determine what the "normal" core and memory clock rates are for my card. It seems to default to 265 for both when I first go to set it, but I don't know if Radlinker is getting that from the card or it's just its standard defaults. I don't know what clock settings are "safe" for my card - but anytime I've gone in the low 200s with it, it's actually looked worse.

Anyway - I'm going to go read up and tweaking vid cards and see if I can learn something more. Thanks everyone for helping.

[MrGravyard]

I have an Interfrated Graphics card, I guess its In my processer.

Would I have an AA or AF? If so how do I get to it??

I downloaded an Upgrad & it seems to help the choppiness. But the Grass looks Bad..

[hefalumps]

MrGravyard,

Right Click on any empty space on your Desktop and then left click on Properties. This should bring up your display properties. Click on the Settings tab and then on the Advanced button. If you have any options for AA (Anti-Aliasing) or AF (Anisotropic Filtering), you should be able to find them somewhere in there. Even if it's an integrated graphics card, going to the Advanced Display Settings section should tell you what kind of chipset it is and what options you have.

[MrGravyard]

Thanks!

[hefalumps]

I'm running the game at 1024x768x32. Should I lower the AA and AF a little maybe? Or will I hafta lower the detail settings? Or is it just the fact that the game just has problems with stuttering?

I definitely think the game is not well optimized for the PC platform - so I have a feeling there's just some stuttering that we're going to have to deal with. People are saying that the KSM datafile adjust the cameras so that stuttering is greatly reduced - you can try that. But you should not need to lower the detail settings in the game for any reason with your card. Any time I lowered detail settings, I noticed no difference in the amount of stutter or lag.

As for tinkering with your resolution, AA, and AF - here's the general rules as I understand them:

1) The higher the resolution, the more stress is put on your vid card - but you shouldn't need AA and AF as much for smoothing and sharpening.

2) The lower the resolution, not as much stress on your card - which means you can pump up your AA and AF a bit to smooth and sharpen your lower res image.

You pretty much have to play with them until you get the combination that looks best for you. If you like to have quantifiable numbers instead of just sort of "eyeballing" it, you can use a program like Fraps to capture framerates. Just google Fraps - it's a great tool.

[RedSoxFox7]

Same for me as well...

I have a Dell Dimension 8250 with 2.52 GHz, 256 MB RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 TX with 128MB RAM...

I've tried the latest Dell drivers for the vid card, the latest Catalyst drivers, the DNA drivers from 3dguru, DirectX 9.0, DirectX 9.0c (which broke my OOTP6 thank you very much), I've installed Radlinker to be able to tinker with overclocking/underclocking the vid card - nothing improves the chopiness. It is somewhat playable - but it always "hiccups" a lot in the infield, especially right as people catch the ball, and at other random times.

I went back and tried MVP 2004 just to compare - and honestly, now that MVP 2005 has made me ultrasensitive to chopiness - there was some of that same chopiness in 2004 also that I don't remember being there. After the patches to MVP 2004, it had become pretty darn smooth for me. Even tho I could still detect chopiness in 2004, 2005 is way worse.

One thing I was able to do was fix the "fuzzy grass" with the AA/AF stuff. But all the other suggestions - Vsync, monitor refresh rate, resolution, updated drivers/DirectX, etc. - nothing has made a significant difference in the chopiness.

Maybe I just need more memory. I'm clearing a bunch of stuff of my hard drive and defragging it tonight just in case that makes any difference.

If anyone else has an ATI Radeon in a Dell dimension and you're NOT experiencing chopiness, please tell me what all your video settings are at. I'm willing to try anything... but I feel like I've already tried everything.

At least it sounds like EA has been owning up to there being an actual problem in the last couple of days.

Sounds like you need more RAM to me.

I've got an Athlon 2500+, 1GB RAM, and a Radeon 9700 and it runs fine for me. I've got AA & AF cranked all the way up, and I run it at 1024x768 (1280x1024 runs poorly, everything is slow).

[hapa17]

hey uh...i'm new to this forum and MVP on the PC (i'm a ps2 MVP veteran). so i've been trying to run MVP 2005 on my laptop. it's hard for me to tell just how bad the stuttering/choppiness is on my computer, but i do think it could be smoother on across-the-diamond throws and on pitches, and i definitely do have audio lag. i'd like to be able to tweak my graphics settings to see if i can get a smoother experience.

my setup is a toshiba notebook computer (3.06 P4 HT, 512 MB DDR SDRAM) with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP graphics card. could someone please explain to me how to adjust AA and AF. i tried hefalumps' quick description, but once i got to my advanced display settings, i couldn't find anything with AA or AF (anti-aliasing or Anisotropic Filtering).

are AA and AF something i could only manipulate if i had a different graphics card? do i need another driver or something? i already have that radlinker thingy.

thanks in advance.

EDIT:

ok...i think i figured it out on my own. just right click on the mvp2005.exe icon and select create Radlink, right? well...that's what i did and i was able to find AA and AF settings under the Directx and OpenGL tabs. i just went thru a series of trying to mess with them, but the difference is hard to tell. like...i'm not sure if there really is a difference or if it's all in my head. one thing was for sure though...the game never really got "silky" smooth.

anyone got specific settings for what i'm working with that may work? thanks.

[PeterOS]

Sorry to hear that Trues is having the same problem. One of the main stays and great modders of the site.

I hope EA is listening and does something soon to fix this.

I picked up the Xbox version to hold me off until there's a fix. Man this game looks great, on the Xbox running at 720p. It's smooth with no stuttering or choppy play, unlike the PC version. :(

[homersheineken]

The underclocking has only made things worse for me so far. I'm hoping the KSM datafile will help.

Just out of curiosity homersheineken, when you max out your AA and AF, what exactly are your settings? On my card I can move AF to 16x Quality or 16x Performance or 16x Forced. Not sure what the difference is (I've tried all three and haven't noticed a substantial difference between them). And with the AA, I have other options besides the multiplication factors (like 6XT2 or something like that). I'm currently using the latest Catalyst drivers for my ATI card.

I'm using Radlinker to handle the underclocking/overclocking of my card as well as doing the AA and AF setting solely for MVP 2005. However, I don't know how to determine what the "normal" core and memory clock rates are for my card. It seems to default to 265 for both when I first go to set it, but I don't know if Radlinker is getting that from the card or it's just its standard defaults. I don't know what clock settings are "safe" for my card - but anytime I've gone in the low 200s with it, it's actually looked worse.

Anyway - I'm going to go read up and tweaking vid cards and see if I can learn something more. Thanks everyone for helping.

My settings are AA (anti-aliasing) 6X and AF (Anisotropic Filtering) is 16X. Set your card for performance. You should still get excellent graphics. I noticed that when i messed around with the memory clock rate either nothing happened or it got worse. The lower I set the processor, the better results I got. Don't go too low or else your video card will give up and just slow a bunch of vertical brown lines (and ya have to reboot -- what ascare that was!!!!!) What kind of card do you have?