Gordo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Had this happen in an MVP game, but wondering if this could actually happen. So playing as the Reds, I had a 5th inning rally, starting with the bottom of the order. India, 2B, was in the 8 hole, so I double switched the reliever, Brad Brach, who went to that 8 slot, and brought in Freeman for the 9 hole and to stay in and play 2nd base. Here was the progression: Mike Freeman flied out. Jesse Winker singled. Nicholas Castellanos was walked. Joey Votto singled. Tyler Naquin singled. Tyler Stephenson flied out. Eugenio Suarez was walked. Kyle Farmer singled. So, I have 2 outs with the bases loaded and Brach due up to hit. I check if I can pinch hit him and it allows me. So I bring in Aquino who makes the 3rd out. Therefore, Brach never sees the mound and I bring in another reliever. Since this gave the Reds the lead in the bottom of the 5th, wouldn't my starter, Gutierrez, get the W? Maybe it's just a box score glitch. But here's how it looks: As you can see, Brach never faced a batter and he got the win. Considering this is a glitch, would it be allowed to have a pinch hitter for him or would he have to hit so that he can pitch? I guess technically, Brach is a hitter first and I'm just simply forfeiting him to appear, kind of like when you see the rare instance where a manager will use a PH for a decoy and put in a different PH because of whoever the opposing manager put on the mound (for a L/R or R/L matchup). Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/66972-pitcher-wins-without-throwing-a-pitch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallFour Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Looks like it happened in 2003 with BJ Ryan, but Baseball-Reference credits him with 1/3 of an inning pitched despite throwing no pitches. This is legitimate and confirmed by officially tracked pitch counts. https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET200305011.shtml#BaltimoreOriolespitching In 2009, Alan Embree repeated the feat, but again, Baseball-Reference credits him with pitching 1/3 of an inning. Again, legitimate. https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/COL/COL200907070.shtml#ColoradoRockiespitching Same thing here with Greg Garrett in 1970. To be fair, they didn't start tracking pitch counts until the 80s, so this *could* be false. The LA Times says it's true, but the Long Beach Independent calls BS. https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL197007010.shtml#CaliforniaAngelspitching There's a whole slew of other *appearances* without throwing a pitch (with former Yankee Mike Stanton appearing on the list TWICE), but there's either two or three guys that have gotten wins without throwing a pitch. Source. Link to comment https://www.mvpmods.com/forums/topic/66972-pitcher-wins-without-throwing-a-pitch/#findComment-696100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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