First 100 teams - Don, Tony, Fuzz - can you post the names?

[MiJO]

does anyone else have any info on the '01 Mariners???

what kind of info do you need man?

[MiJO]

hey, i just found this phat website, dunno if anyone else has seen it http://baseball-almanac.com/teammenu.shtml

here is the roster for 1995 seattle m's http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/...=1995&t=SEA let me know nyy_rich, if this info helps http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/mari.shtml

[Thome25]

This is a good one as well

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/index.html

[Jim825]

This is a good one as well

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/index.html

I was going to recommend retrosheet.org as well. It's a great site. I used it a lot while working on classic rosters last year.

[itjit]

This is a awesome! I'm glad to see the '89 A's on the list!

[smart88]

'73 Angels TC3

Why did you pick the '73 Angels, why not the 86 or 82 Angels teams which both one thier division.

[capa]

Why did you pick the '73 Angels, why not the 86 or 82 Angels teams which both one thier division.

One thing I think maybe we did not make clear is that the teams that are included in the first release are not necessarily the "best" teams for that organization, but rather favorite teams of some of the original classic roster makers like myself, AlexTony, SteCropper, and others.

I like the 61 Reds team...are they better than the 75 Reds? No way. But it was a personal favorite of mine. So, if we all understand that this is the criteria that was used in selecting most of the teams, that may help.

I think when all is said and done with follow-on releases, we will have most everyone's favorites in there...but that may take a few releases.

One other note - once this is released, all you need to do to replace any team in the list is to read the mbe file into MVPEDIT, and then import your favorite team from the Lahman db to overwrite a team in the mbe file. You can customize to your heart's content...

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[Kriegz]

Can someone do one of the 90's Indians teams, maybe 97 or 98?

[NYY_rich]

Can someone give me a hand with the batting stances and pitching styles for each player that hasn't been covered yet?

[AgentQ16]

I'd love to see the 89 Giants in one of the sets. (Clark, Mitchell, Williams)

and the 82 or 86 Angels. (Reggie, Carew, Wally!! )

[fuzzone]

1973 Angels i picked and i think i made it too. Can't recall but i know why i picked the 1973 angels last year.

On july 15th, 1973 in Tiger Stadium, a year that crazy *** nolan ryan had whooped the Tigers 4 times with an era i think 1.15. Anyways, on July 15th, ryan pitched a no-hitter and the final out was Norm Cash who came up to bat with a wooden table leg. He knew he didnt have a chance to make any contact and plus it gave Ryan a little laugh who was in the zone that game trying to keep the no hitter.

so why 1973, because i think it was ryan's best season with 2 no hitters.

If i make the 1932 Yankees, which i probably will...it'll be because that's the year ruth called his shot in wrigley during the world series and maybe every now and then, i like to close my eyes and imagine he's doing it again against the 1932 cubs.

so with all that said, it's not really about the world series rings to me. It's about greatest and great moments. Hope you guys understand..some world series teams just aren't that magical in my eyes.

[fuzzone]

i'm making a wooden table leg bat mod.

[AlexTony]

ok stormin norman :)

[jhath]

any way the 2000 2001 ish indians could be on there??? (before the team got busted... tribetime could tell u the day and minute prolly lol)

[deadballfan]

Most of this thread has been dedicated to "Why this team?" or "Where's <insert favorite team>?".

Will the rest of MVP Studio be coming out soon so those who dont agree with every team selection can put in the teams they really want in there?

And is there going to be room for some of the all time teams that have been discussed ?

With Stormin Norman at first, Greenberg will have to DH or play in LF. And I guess that leaves big Cecil for pinch hitting and poor Rudy York riding the pine (or in AAA) being the 4th 1B and 3rd catcher behind Freehan & Parrish. :wink:

[fuzzone]

Most of this thread has been dedicated to "Why this team?" or "Where's <insert favorite team>?".

Will the rest of MVP Studio be coming out soon so those who dont agree with every team selection can put in the teams they really want in there?

well from my knowledge as this is a group collaboration so i may be wrong about the following,

the first installment of TC will have 60 oldtime teams, a lot of which are new and redone.

The second installment will have 90 i believe which will finish up the minor leagues.

The third installment will have a 120 teams. I'm aiming for some ALL-TIME TEAMS where a good portion i believe have already been done.

And after that, i guess the direction will be more of specialized kind of thing where the forth, fifth and so on installments will depend completely on Stecropper and AlexTony and what ever direction they really want to take this project.

As far as my knowledge goes, I believe the second installment will contain most of the new features:

-music

-oldtime stadiums( -- we're -- well mostly me, lol, i'm aiming for two. More like im pressuring for it!!!!)

-new uniforms

-click to start screen selection tool or possibly a theme installer where you will have from 3-5 package themes to choose from and u can swap them as you like. Music, menu screen and so on.

- portraits

-and a new mini game called Center Field Catch (lol im soo kidding about that one!)

The future of mvp studio so far is releasing Studio 1.5 which will still be a uni-editor but fixing up a few things.

The logo editor, portrait generator, and many of the tools of last year have been recreated. How else you think we're doing this so efficiently? It would probably take a year alone to do this manually. Portraits,logos, met files -- the whole thing.

As of when these tools will be released, hopefully sometime after the second or third installment of total classics.Or when more people start donating -- which ever comes first.

and finally, for the people asking why the 2001 diamondbacks arent in total classics, 2002 angels and so on -- because to me, now im only speaking for me here, I dont really consider them classic.

I know the 2000 yankees are in total classics but that's because of the subway series. Something worth re-creating. If the 2000 yankees won the world series against let's say the phillies, the 2000 yankees would not be considered classic unless game 7 was won in crazy kirk gibson dramatic fashion.

World series teams do not mean total classics, well at least not in my book. Scroll up and read the wooden leg story one more time.

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first release: aiming for this tuesday as there's somethings that need to be polished up. Hopefully. and maybe adding a little something extra

and there will be 2 diff. kinds of installers.

[deadballfan]

Fuzz,

Didn't mean to sound negative in my post. Quite the opposite really. The thread started out we have too many teams and not enough slots so not everyone's team will make it, which came right on the heels of the "TC Wants You" post asking for help which naturally sent some scrambling to see if their team can stay or get in. The project will be a hit, can't please everyone all the time though. The studio and future installments are the hope for max customization for everyone to have their own "perfect roster", just needed an update is all.

Happen to agree that the 2000 teams are prolly a good cutoff point -- others have a good point as well about 2001 and 2002 (both 7 game series) and then there's those 04 BoSox that broke an 86 year old curse. Is one side "right" and the other "wrong" ? Of course not. However, you're the Knowledgable Nine, the guiding forces of the project, make a decision, stand by it. Just be aware at some point in the future ppl might appreciate MVP Studio version X to install the newer World Series teams, particularly that 2005 Tigers team with Pudge and Maggs that shocks the baseball world, after a 7 game LCS with the Red Sox and 7 game WS with the Cards or Cubs of course.

And I'll be the first to admit that I am in that winning teams are classic teams crowd, but playing the 04 Classics, teams like the 73 Angels and the 60s expansion teams grew on me. No reason why they shouldn't be in there. But it's hard to justify the 73 Angels while saying there won't be room for the 86 Angels. So, make room for both.

To be concluded ...

[deadballfan]

there will be 'LOTS' of teams fellas!!

remember fellas no matter what teams are in we will not get ALL that everybody wants.

also, more than likely, each person may have to load the teams pics to see the players of their choice. remember, there are only so many spots for pics. most should fit into the portrait.big file. but, not all

02. '06 Cubs Tony

03. '08 Cubs TC3

06. '10 A's TC3

07. '12 A's Tony working on

27. '55 Dodgers Chris/Tony

29. '57 Dodgers TC3

28. '57 Braves Chris/Tony

34. '61 Braves Tony

40. '63 Dodgers Don

50. '65 Dodgers Chris

61. '73 A's Tony

64. '74 A's Chris

66. '75 Reds Tony

70. '77 Reds TC3

67. '77 LA Tony

73. '78 Dodgers TC3

68. '77 NYY Tony

72. '78 Yankees TC3

97. '00 Diamondbacks Chris

100. '01 Arizona Tony working on

Here are 10 possibilities to squeeze in a team that at this point might not make the cut. I should point out that I am slightly partial toward the 1908 Cubs (made a portrait set for it, but all the 06-10 Cubs teams were good) and especially partial to the 1910 A's (whole pack).

I can see the arguments for both sides on the other 8 cases, but there should be room for the 73 Angels or the 89 A's or the All Time Whatevers and someone can pick between the 77 and 78 Yankees (and the other 7 pairs), or even make it a 2 yr composite or replace the 4th middle reliever or 3rd catcher with the other year's key free agent or something. It's easier for one team's fans to insert the other year later than for all the other fans to replace a spot with a key team that gives the pack a better range of franchises and years.

[AlexTony]

that makes 'some' sense. kinda like a 'dynasty' package for the team.

but, it also breaks the 'actual' team/ 25 man roster for that season.

Hmm, that is the good part about mvp edit. i suppose if one wishes they could

actually do this anyways and then 'add' another team :?:

[fuzzone]

DeadballFan,

well, from what i have done so far, i have added already the 1908 cubs, 1910 A's -- both packs u contributed last year. And the 1978 yankees.

and since im removing the Forum Fanatics and Mod Squad i do have 2 more team slots. I really do appreciate your work and help last year with team packages so i'll squeeze in the 1986 Angels? that's the team you want in right?

[cubsfaninfla]

Can anyone squeeze in the '03 Cubs (playoff roster).

[ozzi22]

Any chance to get the 82 braves. I would like to see dale murphy.

[fuzzone]

whoever suggested the 1986 Angels -- can you please send me a 22-man met file mvpedit 2005.4 version file?

and a 1974 Rangers 22-man met file mvpedit 2005.4 version file wouldn't hurt either.

Thanks.

[peterbernard]

So the list now is:

05 Giants

08 Cubs

09 Detroit

09 Pitttsburgh

10 Phil A's

18 Red Sox

19 ChiSox

27 Yanks

29 A's

34 cards

34 Crawfords

41 Yanks

41 Red Sox

48 Browns

48 Cleveland

54 Giants

57 Braves

57 Dodgers

60 Pittsburgh

61 Yanks

61 Senators

62 Angels

64 Colts

65 Twins

65 Indians

66 Astros

68 Detroit

68 Cards

69 Braves

69 Cubs

69 Pilots

70 Orioles

73 Angels

73 Mets

74 A's

74 Rangers

75 Reds

77 Reds

78 Red Sox

78 Yanks

78 Dodgers

78 SD Padres

84 Detroit

84 Mets

85 Yanks

86 Mets

86 Angels

86 Boston

87 cards

87 Twins

88 Dodgers

90 Reds

91 Blue Jays

94 Expos

97 Seattle Mariners

98 Yanks

2000 Yanks

2000 Mets

Is there a definitive list for what's to come or is it in flux? If I got together a roster for a late 40s or early 50s Dodger team, is there any chance of it getting included? Then you could use the Preacher Roe face.

EDIT: I've got my head buried in working so much, I forgot to come up for air and say CONGRATULATIONS to everyone who created phase one of this, it's quite a huge effort.

EDIT AGAIN: I would like to do the 49 Dodgers--Jackie Robinson MVP and batting champ, NL Champs, Newcombe Rookie of Year, Campanella, Hodges, Pee Wee, Furillo, Duke Snider, Carl Erskine, Ralph Branca and future tv star Chuck Connors.

[stecropper]

Peterbernard,

Here is the list of initial teams we had to work with that are complete. Any other ones that people want considered can be supplied to FuzZ in a .met format and they have a fair chance of getting in:

BY YEAR:

01) '05 NYGiants TC3

02) '06 Cubs Tony

03) '08 Cubs TC3

04) '09 Det Tony

05) '09 Pirates TC3

06) '10 A's TC3

07) '12 A's Tony working on

0 '12 NYG Tony

09) 18 Red Sox Tony working on

10) '19 ChiSox Tony

11) '24 WAS Tony

12) '27 Yankees Chris/Tony

13) '29 A's Tony

14) '29 Cubs Tony

15) '34 St Louis Tony

16) '35 Detroit Tony working on

17) '41 RedSox Tony

1 '41 Yankees TC3

19) '46 St Louis Tony

20) '46 Det Tony

21) '48 Browns Tony

22) '48 Clev Tony

23) '50 Phillies Tony

24) '53 NYY Tony

25) '54 NYG Tony

26) '54 Indians Chris

27) '55 Dodgers Chris/Tony

2 '57 Braves Chris/Tony

29) '57 Dodgers TC3

30) '59 ChiSox Tony

31) '60 Pirates Chris/Tony

32) '61 Reds Chris

33) '61 Yankees Chris

34) '61 Braves Tony

35) '61 Senators Don

36) '61 Indians Don

37) '61 Tigers Don

3 '62 Giants Chris/Tony

39) '62 Red Sox Don

40) '63 Dodgers Don

41) '63 White Sox Don

42) '64 KC Tony

43) '64 Colts TC3

44) '64 Cards Don

45) '64 Phillies Don

46) '64 Orioles Don

47) '64 Cubs Don

4 '65 Twins Chris

49) '65 White Sox Chris

50) '65 Dodgers Chris

51) '67 Red Sox Chris

52) '68 Tigers Chris/Tony

53) '68 Cards Chris/Tony

54) '69 Mets Chris

55) '69 Mariners TC3

56) '69 Cubs Chris/Tony

57) '69 Senators Chris/Tony

5 '70 Twins Tony

59) '70 Orioles Chris/Tony

60) '72 Pirates Tony working on

61) '73 A's Tony

62) '73 Angels TC3

63) '73 Mets TC3

64) '74 A's Chris

65) '75 Red Sox Tony

66) '75 Reds Tony

67) '77 LA Tony

6 '77 NYY Tony

69) '77 Royals Chris/Tony

70) '77 Reds TC3

71) '78 Red Sox TC3

72) '78 Yankees TC3

73) '78 Dodgers TC3

74) '78 Padres TC3

75) '79 Pittsburgh Tony

76) '79 Angels Chris

77) '80 Phillies Chris/Tony

7 '80 Astros Chris/Tony working on

79) '80 Montreal Tony working on

80) '82 Brewers Chris

81) '84 Padres Chris/Tony

82) '84 Tigers TC3

83) '84 NYMets TC3

84) '85 Yankees TC3

85) '86 Mets TC3

86) '86 Red Sox TC3

87) '87 Cards TC3

8 '87 Twins TC3

89) '88 Dodgers TC3

90) '90 Reds TC3

91) 92 Blue Jays Chris/Tony working on

92) '94 Expos TC3

93) '96 NYMets TC3

94) '96 Yankees TC3

95) '97 Mariners Chris

96) '98 Yankees TC3

97) '00 Diamondbacks Chris

9 '00 NYYankees TC3

99) '00 NYMets TC3

00) '01 Arizona Tony working on

01)' 34 Pittsburgh Crawfords (negro league)/Tony

BY TEAM:

'10 A's TC3

'12 A's Tony working on

'29 A's Tony

'64 KC Tony

'73 A's Tony

'74 A's Chris

'73 Angels TC3

'79 Angels Chris

'64 Colts TC3

'80 Astros Chris/Tony working on

'92 Blue Jays Chris/Tony working on

'57 Braves Chris/Tony

'61 Braves Tony

'82 Brewers Chris

'34 St Louis Tony

'46 St Louis Tony

'64 Cards Don

'68 Cards Chris/Tony

'87 Cards TC3

'06 Cubs Tony

'08 Cubs TC3

'29 Cubs Tony

'64 Cubs Don

'69 Cubs Chris/Tony

'00 Diamondbacks Chris

'01 Arizona Tony working on

'55 Dodgers Chris/Tony

'57 Dodgers TC3

'63 Dodgers Don

'65 Dodgers Chris

'77 LA Tony

'78 Dodgers TC3

'88 Dodgers TC3

'80 Montreal Tony working on

'94 Expos TC3

'05 NYGiants TC3

'12 NYG Tony

'54 NYG Tony

'62 Giants Chris/Tony

'48 Clev Tony

'54 Indians Chris

'61 Indians Don

'69 Mets Chris

'73 Mets TC3

'84 NYMets TC3

'86 Mets TC3

'00 NYMets TC3

'69 Mariners TC3

'97 Mariners Chris

'48 Browns Tony

'64 Orioles Don

'70 Orioles Chris/Tony

'84 Padres Chris/Tony

'50 Phillies Tony

'64 Phillies Don

'80 Phillies Chris/Tony

'09 Pirates TC3

'34 Crawfords/Tony

'60 Pirates Chris/Tony

'72 Pirates Tony working on

'79 Pittsburgh Tony

'61 Reds Chris

'75 Reds Tony

'77 Reds TC3

'90 Reds TC3

'18 Red Sox Tony working on

'41 RedSox Tony

'62 Red Sox Don

'67 Red Sox Chris

'75 Red Sox Tony

'78 Red Sox

'86 Red Sox TC3

'77 Royals Chris/Tony

'24 WAS Tony

'61 Senators Don

'69 Senators Chris/Tony

'09 Det Tony

'35 Detroit Tony working on

'46 Det Tony

'61 Tigers Don

'68 Tigers Chris/Tony

'84 Tigers TC3

'65 Twins Chris

'70 Twins Tony

'87 Twins TC3

'19 ChiSox Tony

'59 ChiSox Tony

'63 White Sox Don

'65 White Sox Chris

'27 Yankees Chris/Tony

'41 Yankees TC3

'53 NYY Tony

'61 Yankees Chris

'77 NYY Tony

'78 Yankees TC3

'85 Yankees TC3

'96 Yankees TC3

'98 Yankees TC3

'00 NYYankees TC3