hot/cold zone question.

[crogall]

Hi i wish to ask if the hot/cold zone option you can set at the beginning of the game its just a visual thing or an effective one; if you turn it off you are just unable to see the zone, or basically players dont have hot/cold zone anymore?

And then can hot/cold zone change in a dynasty game or stay the same for every player? Thanks.

[RiceBoy]

It's just a visual display. Turning off the display doesn't turn off the zone.

[vinnycast27]

just to raise another question here about these zones....

Some players have lots of blue(cold) zones but when you look at their stats they have high contact and high power ability.

for example Rivas for the twins against left handed pitchers has:

Contact: 78

Power: 71

YET, he doesn't have one hot zone, but has 5 cold zones.

the point im getting to is this, if i was to pitch against him and i pitch in a cold zone how significant is his contact and power stats when it's meant to be his weak zone.

Is he more likely to produce a pop-up? or foul? or because of his high general ability will he crush it?

players like rivas in general aren't a problem but players like vlad are! against right handers he has just one cold zone.....but with 94 contact and 89 power...is it really safe to pitch to him there or not?

hope someone understand my question and some some kind of solution...

cheers all

:thumbsup:

[vinnycast27]

bump

looks like im on my own on this 1 then lol

[LastPickedForTeeBall]

When I get players like that with like 5 cold zones and 1 hot zone but the have like 85 cont. and 85 pow. I just delete some of the cold zones and maybe add a hot zone depending on if he is a pull hitter or not.

[rdeyes]

i have the hot and cold zones set to fade ..

[KenDammit]

they don't really determine anything as far as I can tell. If I hit a ball solid with any player whether its in a cold zone, a neutral zone, or a hot zone, it gives the same result. I think they are just there for a little, eye candy if you will. After player progression takes over, I'm not sure that the zones change, but the stats do, so they are misleading in most cases.

[Valiknicoff]

The Zones Change , durring the season

I am playing a Tigers Dynasty in Dynasty Mode. Carlos Pena is a lefty with the following

H H C

C H C

C C C

About 30 games into the season he is hitting .290 6HR and it has changed

H H C

C H N

C N C

Two new neutral zone

The zones do matter, In hot zones you have more room for error on the timing of your swing.

The Yellow and Green dots on the pitch meter, if you are swinging at a pitch in a hot zone, you will get more yellow and green dots. It goes down some with Neutral, and is small with cold.

[KySteveH]

Yellow and green dots? What does that mean?

[Valiknicoff]

Yellow and green dots? What does that mean?

On your swing replay, the little split screen, you can see your yellow and green dots.

Vladdy

Y

Y

Y

G

G

G

G

Y

Y

Y

Say thats a pitch for a good hitter that was in the hot zone, If you hit in the first yellow, you are early on the pitch, in the green you are making good contact, in the second yellow you are late.

In cold zones and neutral zones you get less room for error

Neutral

Y

Y

G

G

G

Y

Y

Cold

Y

Y

G

G

Y

Y

Bad Bunter/Pitchers with crappy contact/or Hitter with really poor contact.

Y

G

G

Y

Somethiing like that, if I am making no sense , after you swing at a pitch replay it in the options, it will show what i am talking about.

Alot of times if you whiff it shows it automatically

This also varries between hitters.

H H C

C H N

C N C

Pena has like 60 ish contact and 70ish power.

In his hot zones he might get

Y

Y

Y

G

G

G

Y

Y

Y

Neutral

Y

Y

G

G

G

Y

Y

Cold

Y

Y

G

G

Y

Y

Where a hitter like Barry Bonds is going to have

Y

Y

Y

G

G

G

G

Y

Y

Y

Hot

Y

Y

G

G

G

G

Y

Y

Neutral

Y

Y

G

G

G

Y

Y

Cold

These aren't accurate, but it isn't too far from the truth

You can hit pitches in cold zones, you just need to get a really good swing on it to do so.

Get it?

[vinnycast27]

thats a great post man,

i didn't look at swing replays, i have all replays off when i play because i swing soo much and dis-like the replays after every failed swing.

Anways from your post i think i've cracked it......so heres my theory on it all...

So when facing someone like vlad (or any other 80+ contact and power hitters) and you see a blue (cold zone) it doesn't mean:

keep pitching the ball there because its his wEAK zone!, it just means like Valiknicoff said the hitter has less room for error in weak and neutral.

in a red(hotzone) you can slightly miss-time the ball and still get a perfect hit due to the batters high conact and power stats.

So although, pithcing to vlad's one blue square is more prefrable than pitching to his other zones, it doesn't mean you can dominate him just in that sqaure.

it just means you have an extra 10-20% chance of getting a pop-up or K because timing needs to be more accurate, but remember this is vlad and if he does time it BANG, HOME-RUN ANGELS!!!

so beware!!!

this is my understanding of the hot/cold zones based on Valiknicoff theory and it seems a good 1.

:D

[CHOWDERHEADSLC]

Anways from your post i think i've cracked it......so heres my theory on it all... So when facing someone like vlad (or any other 80+ contact and power hitters) and you see a blue (cold zone) it doesn't mean: keep pitching the ball there because its his wEAK zone!, it just means like Valiknicoff said the hitter has less room for error in weak and neutral. in a red(hotzone) you can slightly miss-time the ball and still get a perfect hit due to the batters high conact and power stats.

So although, pithcing to vlad's one blue square is more prefrable than pitching to his other zones, it doesn't mean you can dominate him just in that sqaure. It just means you have an extra 10-20% chance of getting a pop-up or K because timing needs to be more accurate, but remember this is vlad and if he does time it BANG, HOME-RUN ANGELS!!!

so beware!!! this is my understanding of the hot/cold zones based on Valiknicoff theory and it seems a good 1.

Great job by both of you - that really made sense. I have found that I kept hammering away at the "cold" zone - and when I would get taken deep I would wonder what was going on - thanks for helping me to better understand what may be happening.

[KenDammit]

hmm, well I learned something new, I'll have to keep an eye on that. I didn't ever pay attention to the contact meter before....thanks Val...still haven't noticed any zones changing during the season though

[basballfanatik9]

just to raise another question here about these zones....

Some players have lots of blue(cold) zones but when you look at their stats they have high contact and high power ability.

for example Rivas for the twins against left handed pitchers has:

Contact: 78

Power: 71

YET, he doesn't have one hot zone, but has 5 cold zones.

the point im getting to is this, if i was to pitch against him and i pitch in a cold zone how significant is his contact and power stats when it's meant to be his weak zone.

Is he more likely to produce a pop-up? or foul? or because of his high general ability will he crush it?

players like rivas in general aren't a problem but players like vlad are! against right handers he has just one cold zone.....but with 94 contact and 89 power...is it really safe to pitch to him there or not?

hope someone understand my question and some some kind of solution...

cheers all

:thumbsup:

Even though players have cold zones, if the CPU swings the bat correctly, the ball will travel far. The consider a cold zone, but it really doesn't mean much, it just shows that the batter is weaker in certain areas then others, but that they can still attack the ball.

[Valiknicoff]

About the Zones Changing

I don't know if it happens in Owner Mode, since I have yet to play owner mode. I am a dynasty man, I need my 120 years !

And the age of the player along with performance may have a large factor on the zones changing.

So if you are playing with the Sawks, who have alot of Vet hitters, I don't know if you are going to see changes.

[Valiknicoff]

If you are facing a good pitcher, like Randy Johnson, all of your batters will have a smaller contact zones.

As if it wasn't hard enough to hit his pitches >_<

[vinnycast27]

If you are facing a good pitcher, like Randy Johnson, all of your batters will have a smaller contact zones.

what the?

so if i'm hitting with ichiro whoes like a 90 contact hitter against lefties and has 6/7 red(hotzones) and not one cold zone.

because he's facing johnson his contact isn't 90 its smaller?

or do these red zones turn to white?

can you clear this up for me please

cheers mate

[Valiknicoff]

an you clear this up for me please

Read the rest of the thread. Not the 3X3 hitting zone with the red blue and clear boxes

I guess contact zone was a bad thing to call it, I guess Timming Zone would be more appropriate.

You need to be more perfect on your timming against better pitchers.

It just occured to me, it might not be so much the pitcher, but the pitch. Say Pitch X has a 98 rated splitter, but all of his other pitches are in the 60's

That 98 rated pitch will have a tiny timming zone, while the 60's rated pitch will be bigger. I am going to need to test this one first.

[vinnycast27]

yeh sounds interesting

tell us the results

good work :thumbsup:

[vinnycast27]

have you had time to experiment?.......

am eagerly awaiting your findings

cheers

[mrmariner]

This might be off your subject but I play as the Mariners and Ichiro's contact changed from being in the 90's against left handed pitching to 100. It only lasted for a game or two and then fell back into the 90's. So I think things do change during the season but I'm not sure about the hot / cold zones?

[KenDammit]

I still haven't seen the actual zones change...and I have like 50 bazillion different dynasties and stuff going lol. I've seen pitcher stats change...like the little bars underneath the different pitches for a few pitches, but thats about all I've ever noticed. I keep forgetting to pay attention to all this hitting stuff, though.

[vinnycast27]

i've too seen the stats go up and down for batters.....if they are on a hot streak contact tends to go up a little if they are on a slump they drop...

its a nice touch, but you always find they tend to go bak to their origional value even if you continue a slumping period or hitting period.