TROR Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Make me relive my past days of piching. I never was a hard thrower, I was a junk man and pretty good at it. My pitches: 4-Seam Fastball Knucleball Curve Circle Change(Picked this up while watching Greg Maddux showing pitching grips) Slider Straight Change I have two deliveries, Sidearm for the 4-Seam, Slider, Straight Change and Curve. A Charles Nagy type Delivery for the 4-Seam, Knuckle & Circle Change, & Curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 Too many people don't knwo the proper way to release a curve ball and thats what hurts their arm. But a cuban forkball/knucklecurve gives the same effect without ANY strain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROR Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 Too many people don't knwo the proper way to release a curve ball and thats what hurts their arm. But a cuban forkball/knucklecurve gives the same effect without ANY strain funny a curbeball is my natural throwing motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 funny a curbeball is my natural throwing motion You are gunna have some serious arm problems my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROR Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 never have, my natural motion throwing sidearm is a curveball and I know how to throw it properly. Not one arm problem and I've been throwing it for 10 years. Did I forget to mention I'm 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1927yankee Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 can sum1 post a picture of how to grip a knuclecurve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuthrnYankee213 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 can someone post a picture on how to grip a sinker also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 knuckle curve, my type of grip... Hold the ball as if it were a 2-seam fastball... Now get the index finger and slide it down under the left seam, and put your middle finger on the left seam and your ring on the right seam, with the pinky, under the "Rawlings" symbol. the index finger may take a while to get used to being under the ball, but it works... Another way to look at it in case it was not so clear above, is a circle change grip, just with the index finger under the ball/seam. Just throw it as you would with a fastball, just with that grip of course... A sinker is refered to as the 2-seam most of the time, the splitter is better though, just move your fingers a bit off the seams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 If I ever get around to fixing my digital cam I will post a picture of the knucklecurve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Lots of good tips I read. I didnt see any though pertaining to expanding the strike zone. Once you have consistency with your stuff and control, then you can take it to the next level by working the "4 corners". The more you can paint the black inside/outside, up/down, the more you can expand the strikezone and get those calls for strikes, while making the sweetspot on the bat feel smaller to the batter. A good catcher who knows how to frame the pitch can make a big difference too. You will get more calls too by consistently staying ahead in the count. Most Umps will give you more calls if you demonstrate you know how to work the plate and "pitch". Changing speeds and good location is what pitching is about. The other is being able to read your batter and adjust accordingly. Of course, if you pitch against certain teams and players alot in your league, you get to know a players strengths and weaknesses. I would watch a guy take his practice swings before getting into the box. Sometimes he would give away what it is he was working on, his weakness. By watching a batters stride and shoulders, I could get a hint on if he was quick on an inside pitch or stayed closed for stuff away just by his natural mechanics. Good batters had the ability to make adjustments pitch to pitch, so the fun being a pitcher was to stay one pitch ahead of him. Nothing like out thinking a good hitter and tying him up in knots! Pitching is not only knowing your stuff and being consistent with it but realizing your opponents tendencies too and the adjustments he might be trying to make. At the higher levels of ball, that's where the real fun is....in the mental game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirates4life Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 my curveball is off the chain b/c i am a great lefty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 my curveball is off the chain b/c i am a great lefty Congrats princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooseknucks Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 my curveball is off the chain b/c i am a great lefty Wonderful. Are you a Cy Young winner as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medric822 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 back on to the subject of the curve, my HS coach says that a better curve is thrown with less pressure, like the lighter oyu throw it, the more break it has. He should know, he was signed by the Phillies, and made it into AA ball, being able to throw literally every pitch. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirates4life Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 brooklyn i am a cy young winner 5 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirates4life Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 i am not no princess either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basballfanatik9 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 i am not no princess either LMAO :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: They were just joking with you buddy. Here's how to grip the knuckle curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvpmodder07 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Here's how to grip the knuckle curve That knucklecurve is still thrown like a regular curve, thus it still puts pressure on your elbow. A better version(more break, no arm problems) takes your index and middle fingers and bends them. Put those bent fingers on the horseshoe with the closed side facing up. Throw like a fastball. back on to the subject of the curve, my HS coach says that a better curve is thrown with less pressure, like the lighter oyu throw it, the more break it has. He should know, he was signed by the Phillies, and made it into AA ball, being able to throw literally every pitch. HS coaches rarely know anything. You can put lots of break on the ball or "pressure" and still not throw it hard. Making it to AA isnt really a super big acomplishment. I know former pros that dont know jack about pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFLR Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Can someone post how to grip the Knukler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medric822 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 mvpmodder07, my hs coach went to AA reding, and pitched for them. He knows how to throw 13 differewnt pitches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 HFLR, watch any TV broadcast that shows Tim Wakefield pitching. He's so slow, you'll be able to pick up the grip normally, and if they do a close up of his hand, even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFLR Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 HFLR, watch any TV broadcast that shows Tim Wakefield pitching. He's so slow, you'll be able to pick up the grip normally, and if they do a close up of his hand, even better. Thanks for the help Mark, Ill turn to the Red Sox games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northpaw Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 AA isn't a big thing!?!! What kinda crap is that? And as for your knowledge of the curveball. See my posts on page 1 and 2. YOU CAN'T HURT YOUR ARM IF YOU THROW A PROPER KARATE CHOP CURVEBALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgomets105 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I can throw a curve now that is wicked sharp, but I am eratic. One will buckle your knees the next will fly over the backstop. throwing a slider is the hardest. When I tork my forarm, i get great movement on it but it hurts. So when I lay off the hard snap, the ball looks like a cutter and flys fast. The practice I was told in high school was to keep going over and over with it until you develop a rythym. Like a habbit where you dont even notice you are pitching the ball the same way every time. This way you get your mechanics set to where its not even a thought. I still get some pain when i throw though. After like 40 tosses my arm is soar like I just worked out my shoulder and forarms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medric822 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I have improved on my pitching over this last year, I have these pitches going from best to worst Splitter Cutter 4Seam Slider Curve And I was once reading a sports illustrated mag a few months ago, and inside, it showed how Barry Zito grips/throws his curve. It' on of the best in baseball,,and I was wondering if someone can pm me a copy of that article. Possibly scan it for me. Thanks! my 4 seam has speed, but no accuracy. While by brother was at my house once, he wanted to see me fastball, and I nearly beamed him in the head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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