letsgomets105 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 funny you should mention zito, i learned how to throw a slider from his way of throwing a curve. How he throws it is with the usual grip, however he likes to get a hard break loop rather than a slow loop. How he throws it is he keeps his wrist as steady as possible and torks his forarm. That is how he throws a hard looping curve as oppose to a slow looper like one david wells throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 How hard do ya guys throw? I got: - 4 Seam Fastball - Circle Change Up - Curveball - Sniker (My sinker hassn't been working for me at all lately) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medric822 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm a mid 70's, the fat on my arm slows down the pitches, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I got a question about the knucklecurve. is there a picture of the grip? it doesnt show up for me on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 that curveball method sounds awesome. do you have any other links or information regarding it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourhomiejosh Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I'm working on my pitching a lot lately, trying to make it as a relief (if needed) pitcher next year on the HS team. What I'm best with: - 2-Seam Fastball - Change-up - Curveball variation (I'm not quite sure) What I'm working on: - Knuckleball variation - Palmball (probably useless, but I've got it decent a few times) - A proper 4-Seamer The Knuckleball variation is odd... because I'm not sure if I could really call it a knucklecurve, because it's just... strange. I'm a righty, when I release it dips down and to the left, but then it breaks back up and to the right? I don't get it, never have. All I know is that sometimes it works pretty well, and other times there's no telling where it goes. I grip it oddly, too. My middle and ring finger are behind the ball (touching the ball where my nails are) and my index and pinky are along the seams like a 2-Seamer. Hopefully I can get a picture or something. If any of you guys can explain any of that to me (what I'm doing, why it's like that, if it has already been done) then it would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punchout Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Speaking not as a pitcher, but as a batter (high school). When you get up into Varsity and have a good speed as a pitcher, a changeup is 100% better than a curve. We have some pitchers with great curves and yea its great, but a change is easier to throw and can have a greater effect. Nothing better than seeing the guy behind the fastball, then swing way out in front of a change. Its the change of speed that makes a good pitcher, I know you may have heard it before, but coming from a cocky Varsity High School player I swear to god a good changeup is one of the best pitches you can have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SESbb30 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Can i reccomend a splitter/forkball thing i throw. you hold it like a 2 seamer, but you have your index and middle fingers about half way down the ball. And you put the ball as deep in between your fingers as you can. When i throw it it has little rotation and i use it as an offspeed pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDoro Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 yourhomiejosh, as a high school coach I would recommend you lose the knuckleball variation and palmball but definately work on the 2 seamer. There is a reason not many pitchers throw the knuckleball and palmball .... most get crushed. also I think some people are getting a knucklecurve confused with a knuckleball that just seems to move down and away from a righty batter. I knucklecurve is not really a knuckleball at all. It is just a curveball that gets it rotation from the finger "flicking" the seam to get the same spin as a curveball but without snapping the wrist as much. Whoever origionally deemed this pitch as a knucklecurve was misleading with the name choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyMcM93 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I'm usually on the other end of the pitch, but I do have a variety of pitches. 4-Seam Fastball Change-up 2-Seam Fastball Curveball Cutter Splitter I'm working on a slider, but so far I'm liking my cutter. Curve, 4-seam, and 2-seam are all good, but change and split are another story. Slitter I get little movement and change has none; very slow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 My pitches are: fastball curve that usually doesn't move, but sometimes drops into the dirt about ten feet in front of the catcher, who then points at me and laughs fastball weird fastball that tails off and hits lefties right in the thigh (it's got crazy movement, though) fastball Heh. Actually, I had a question for some of you more knowledgeable types that are following this thread. When I was a kid and used to play catch with my dad, he had a pitch he'd throw every now and then which seemed like it'd be pretty effective if you mixed it in with a decent fastball and changeup. He'd grip the ball like if you were throwing a knuckler, but instead of the low speed that most knuckles have, it'd have full fastball velocity and no spin. This thing would be travelling 80-85 mph, but it looked like it was crawling at you. And every now and then, he could get it to drop like a murder weapon. Anybody have any idea what the $#^# he was throwing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerunhitr Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I think that would be a split-finger. If thrown properly, it can be pretty nasty. Ive been working on throwing it in practice and the thing drops 2 feet. And if he was throwing that 80-85, he must have been able to throw a fast ball around 90. Other pitches Im throwing: -4 seam -2 seam -spike curve -circle change -slider Another thing to all those pitchers out there, dont focus on velocity as a lot of kids do, focus on being able to throw strikes and location with every single one of your pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 i dont mean to bump this but it sounds really interesting. does anyone know more about this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYM Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 I got a question. When I throw my four seam fastball it tails to the left like a cutter. Why is this. Four seam is supposed to be straight, not cut. I never noticed it until about a year ago when I was pitching and my center fielder said my ball was tailing insanely. Is there any reason it tails? My pitches when I pitch (which is never anymore) - 4 seam fastball Guess that's why I never cut it as a pitcher. I mess around with throwing a curveball in practice and stuff, but you have to stand about 80 feet away for it to break because it hangs so much. Maybe if I can't cut it as a hitter in the majors, I can go the Chad Bradford way of making it to the majors. Throw sloooooooooow and submarine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timp Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 How do you throw a sinker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x63 Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I got a question. When I throw my four seam fastball it tails to the left like a cutter. Why is this. Four seam is supposed to be straight, not cut. I never noticed it until about a year ago when I was pitching and my center fielder said my ball was tailing insanely. Is there any reason it tails? Everyone has their own natural movement. Yours is in towards a lefty. Try messing with fingertip pressure to get it to move a little differently. How do you throw a sinker? It's just a 2-Seam fastball. Stay on top of it more, and it will have more sink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kblavie Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thank you for that little note you wrote about not throwing any sliders, or curves. I'm just waiting for someone on my team to pull something like Dravecky. I kepp telling them but they always come up with lame excuses. It's great to watch them throw a 12-6 and see it break as much as a 4-seam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirinus Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 What is the proper way to release a splitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPrior22 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I got a question. When I throw my four seam fastball it tails to the left like a cutter. Why is this. Four seam is supposed to be straight, not cut. I never noticed it until about a year ago when I was pitching and my center fielder said my ball was tailing insanely. Is there any reason it tails? My pitches when I pitch (which is never anymore) - 4 seam fastball Guess that's why I never cut it as a pitcher. I mess around with throwing a curveball in practice and stuff, but you have to stand about 80 feet away for it to break because it hangs so much. Maybe if I can't cut it as a hitter in the majors, I can go the Chad Bradford way of making it to the majors. Throw sloooooooooow and submarine. You're probably not releasing the ball correctly. Many people like to say natural movement is a good thing, but actually it means you're not throwing a pitch right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace152 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Natural movement IS a good thing. All movement is good, it just has to be harnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdot Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 You're probably not releasing the ball correctly. Many people like to say natural movement is a good thing, but actually it means you're not throwing a pitch right. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPrior22 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Lol What's so funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekjeter64 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'm from germany and I want trie the forkball. Can anyone explain this pitch clearer for me?, maybe with helpfull pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SESbb30 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 ok, i think i figured out how to throw a gyroball. you hold it like a curve, but put your pointer and middle fingers together in the middle of the ball and your thumb in the center on the bottom, and when you release it, throw it like a football, but like a curve when you snap your wrists, instead of doing that you bring your fingers straight down and to your opposite arm a little bit. it is slower than a fastball, but faster than a slider, it justs drops off the table at the end, very very nasty. if its not the gyroball, correct me. ill try to post pics later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Unit Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 What's so funny? Well, according to you, Mariano Rivera doesn't know how to throw a fastball. But then again, what would Mariano Rivera know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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